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CPU for HTPC
Hi,
Would an AMD Turion 64 be a good CPU solution for a HTPC, which obviously has to run cool and quiet, but which also has to run on a fair level of power consumption given that I plan to use is as a file-server for 24/7/365? Regards Anders |
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"Anders Bang" wrote in message k... Hi, Would an AMD Turion 64 be a good CPU solution for a HTPC, which obviously has to run cool and quiet, but which also has to run on a fair level of power consumption given that I plan to use is as a file-server for 24/7/365? Regards Anders Turion has two varieties; ML-xx which is a 35 watt proc, and MT-xx which is a 25 watt proc. Either one will work on HTPC, but AFAIK they are currently only available in notebook or laptop computers. They are 754 pin, so it you can find a PIB, you may find a deal on 754 pin motherboards (they cannot support Dual Channel RAM). Bobby |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:37:50 +0200, Anders Bang wrote:
Would an AMD Turion 64 be a good CPU solution for a HTPC, which obviously has to run cool and quiet, but which also has to run on a fair level of power consumption given that I plan to use is as a file-server for 24/7/365? The Turion is just an undervolted underclocked A64. I assume you mean HT to mean Home Theater. As for a file server, you sure don't need a lot of power for it with any decent file server software. Any Socket 754 CPU would be adequate. -- KT133 MB, CPU @2400MHz (24x100): SIS755 MB CPU @2330MHz (10x233) Need good help? Provide all system info with question. My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:09:51 GMT, Wes Newell
wrote: The Turion is just an undervolted underclocked A64. No the Turion is NOT an undervolted underclocked A64. The Turion is a tweaked design with low power the main focus. If it was just an undervolted underclocked A64 then explain how AMD can make a 25 watt MT-40 which is the same as an A64 4000+ which is an 89 watt processor. |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:28:09 -0500, Steve wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:09:51 GMT, Wes Newell wrote: The Turion is just an undervolted underclocked A64. No the Turion is NOT an undervolted underclocked A64. The Turion is a tweaked design with low power the main focus. If it was just an undervolted underclocked A64 then explain how AMD can make a 25 watt MT-40 which is the same as an A64 4000+ which is an 89 watt processor. The same fricking way they do/did with the Athlon XP-M, which is no more than a Barton core XP with lower vcore and default speeds. Now if want to call that a tweaked design, that's up to you. I don't. -- KT133 MB, CPU @2400MHz (24x100): SIS755 MB CPU @2330MHz (10x233) Need good help? Provide all system info with question. My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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The Turion is *NOT* and undervolted and underclocked AMD64.
The A64 are 939 pin processors. The Turion (Ml-xx and Mt-xx) are 754 pin procs, and are a new mobile 64 bit chip. The ML-xx series are a 35 watt chip, and the MT-xx are a 25 watt chip. A simple visit to the AMD website is in order, Mr. Newell. You should educate yourself on the various chips available from AMD. Sempron Sempron64 Athlon64 Athlon64 FX-xx Turion64 MT-xx Turion64 ML-xx Opteron Bobby "Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2005.09.25.06.16.12.103134@TAKEOUTverizon .net... On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:37:50 +0200, Anders Bang wrote: Would an AMD Turion 64 be a good CPU solution for a HTPC, which obviously has to run cool and quiet, but which also has to run on a fair level of power consumption given that I plan to use is as a file-server for 24/7/365? The Turion is just an undervolted underclocked A64. I assume you mean HT to mean Home Theater. As for a file server, you sure don't need a lot of power for it with any decent file server software. Any Socket 754 CPU would be adequate. -- KT133 MB, CPU @2400MHz (24x100): SIS755 MB CPU @2330MHz (10x233) Need good help? Provide all system info with question. My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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Now, let me try and drag this discussion back onto the track. The important
part here is to try and find a CPU with a heat dissipation and power usage as low as possible but powerful enough to be the center of a HTPC that is going to be on 24 / 7 / 365. Now, the Turion being a CPU designed for mobile computing sounded like a CPU that will fulfill these needs...? The reason that I am so concerned about the power concumption / heat dissipation is that the HTPC will obviously be idle a most of the time and therefore it would be nice for it to use a whole lot of power while idle. Also, a low heat dissipation would reduce the need for noisy fans in the case. However, since my original post I have been advised that the AMD Venice core actually uses only about the same amount of watts as the Turion 25W (http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_venice/). Now, does the Turion have some extra power saving features or should I just go with the Venice-core (which would probably also be offering a better upgrade path for the future)? Regards Anders |
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"Anders Bang" wrote in message k... Now, let me try and drag this discussion back onto the track. The important part here is to try and find a CPU with a heat dissipation and power usage as low as possible but powerful enough to be the center of a HTPC that is going to be on 24 / 7 / 365. Now, the Turion being a CPU designed for mobile computing sounded like a CPU that will fulfill these needs...? The reason that I am so concerned about the power concumption / heat dissipation is that the HTPC will obviously be idle a most of the time and therefore it would be nice for it to use a whole lot of power while idle. Also, a low heat dissipation would reduce the need for noisy fans in the case. However, since my original post I have been advised that the AMD Venice core actually uses only about the same amount of watts as the Turion 25W (http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_venice/). Now, does the Turion have some extra power saving features or should I just go with the Venice-core (which would probably also be offering a better upgrade path for the future)? Regards Anders Anders; To be honest, any of the AMD64 procs would suit your needs quite nicely; however the Venice core is probably your best bet. All of the current AMD lineup produce *FAR* less heat than the equivalent Intel product. Have you thought at all at looking into one of the new AMD X2 dual core? Bobby |
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no because that would be way overkill for the applications it will be
running. Actually an Athlon XP would be fine but since I will be purchasing a new mobo for the HTPC anyway, I might as well get something that provides an upgrade path. |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:28:16 +0200, Anders Bang wrote:
However, since my original post I have been advised that the AMD Venice core actually uses only about the same amount of watts as the Turion 25W (http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_venice/). Now, does the Turion have some extra power saving features or should I just go with the Venice-core (which would probably also be offering a better upgrade path for the future)? The Turion doesn't have a heat spreader. The reason for this is that it (or any cpu) can cooled more efficiently without one. This may present a problem with some standard coolers. Personally, for what you are building, I wouldn't worry about an upgrade path as it should not need upgrading for the work it will be doing. But if you are concerned with that, go for a socket 939 MB and the slowest 939 newest core you can find. With the proper HS and fan, you can cool it with so little noise you won't be able to hear it outside the case. -- KT133 MB, CPU @2400MHz (24x100): SIS755 MB CPU @2330MHz (10x233) Need good help? Provide all system info with question. My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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