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I agree - it will be at least a year before other cards such as sound cards, network cards, and the like are out in PCIe format in any quantity. It will be that long before there are even any graphics cards that will utilize the potential bandwidth of PCIe, anyway. There'll still be AGP cards around for a while yet. At least a couple years. Has anyone ever seen a PCIe x1 card? I assume that's what those short slots on PCIe boards are. I think it's odd that new boards have more PCIe than PCI slots, and I can't find a PCIe card (other than video) available for sale anywhere. |
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I see PCI Express as more of a "stuck with" than a "must have".
No kidding. The real reason for PCIe is to force upgrades. Just like the real reason for DTV is to sell digital receivers. And the real reason for HD-DVD is to take another crack at working DRM, since CSS failed so badly. Improved picture and sound quality are a red herring, and will only impact a small minority of people who actually have HDTVs anyway. |
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I agree - it will be at least a year before other cards such as sound cards,
network cards, and the like are out in PCIe format in any quantity. It will be that long before there are even any graphics cards that will utilize the potential bandwidth of PCIe, anyway. There'll still be AGP cards around for a while yet. At least a couple years. Has anyone ever seen a PCIe x1 card? I assume that's what those short slots on PCIe boards are. I think it's odd that new boards have more PCIe than PCI slots, and I can't find a PCIe card (other than video) available for sale anywhere. AGP and PCI cards will be around for a long time.,PCI video cards are still available even though AGP has been out for years. Those short slots are PCI slots so you can still use your PCI cards. From what i understand PCI-E sound cards wont be any improvment because PCI is still more than adequate. |
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Ed Light wrote:
"dvus" wrote You gotta love the free market system... It would be more fun to get rid of $$ and profit and have democratic production with equal distribution. Then the hardware gurus could really do their thing! What does that mean, "Democratic Production"? Who's gonna invest in the R&D if there's no profit to be made? dvus |
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Lachoneus wrote:
I see PCI Express as more of a "stuck with" than a "must have". No kidding. The real reason for PCIe is to force upgrades. Just like the real reason for DTV is to sell digital receivers. And the real reason for HD-DVD is to take another crack at working DRM, since CSS failed so badly. Improved picture and sound quality are a red herring, and will only impact a small minority of people who actually have HDTVs anyway. I'd imagine that number will increase significantly as prices fall and programming rises. dvus |
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"dvus" wrote in message ... Ed Light wrote: "dvus" wrote You gotta love the free market system... It would be more fun to get rid of $$ and profit and have democratic production with equal distribution. Then the hardware gurus could really do their thing! What does that mean, "Democratic Production"? Who's gonna invest in the R&D if there's no profit to be made? The people own the means of production collectively, and democratically run it. Then the output gets distributed equally. Let's say, free necessities such as food, and equal script for luxuries. -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. |
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"The people own the means of production collectively"
Where in the works of Marx and Lenin have I read this before? You know those high-performance Soviet PCs in the 1980s... -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "Ed Light" wrote in message news:QkMyd.1585$yW5.1262@fed1read02... The people own the means of production collectively, and democratically run it. Then the output gets distributed equally. Let's say, free necessities such as food, and equal script for luxuries. -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. |
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"First of One" wrote in message ... "The people own the means of production collectively" Where in the works of Marx and Lenin have I read this before? You know those high-performance Soviet PCs in the 1980s... Lenin didn't follow what I said at all. Marx would have kicked his butt. -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. |
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:49:08 -0800, "Ed Light"
wrote: "dvus" wrote in message ... Ed Light wrote: "dvus" wrote You gotta love the free market system... It would be more fun to get rid of $$ and profit and have democratic production with equal distribution. Then the hardware gurus could really do their thing! What does that mean, "Democratic Production"? Who's gonna invest in the R&D if there's no profit to be made? The people own the means of production collectively, and democratically run it. Then the output gets distributed equally. Let's say, free necessities such as food, and equal script for luxuries. Nice in theory. In practice, this works very well for groups of up to, say, about four people. -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA |
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Ed Light wrote:
"First of One" wrote in message ... "The people own the means of production collectively" Where in the works of Marx and Lenin have I read this before? You know those high-performance Soviet PCs in the 1980s... Lenin didn't follow what I said at all. Perhaps there's a reason for that? Like that you're basically having decisions made by committee and a committee is the only known form of life with six legs and no brain? Marx would have kicked his butt. -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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