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Merged AMD-ATI monster embarks on monopoly-busting
magnate wrote:
Benjamin Gawert wrote: * shegeek72: But will they get rid of the stupid and outdated .Net requirement to d/l ATI drivers? What problems do you have with .NET? I know they can be downloaded from other websites, but I didn't find out about that until after hours of frustration trying to download drivers from the ATI website and no response from ATI tech support, and I'm sure many others aren't aware of it. I've swtiched to nVidia because of it and it'll take a lot to get me to switch back. Switching gfx cards just to avoid .NET is just plain silly... No, no it isn't. People switch their entire OS to avoid .NET - some of us would happily switch our entire house. Why? |
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:56:18 -0400, "HockeyTownUSA"
wrote: Why is Intel the platform of choice? While I agree it seems they have the performance crown for now, AMD is still a good bargain, and will probably be cheaper than an equivalent Intel counterpart so AMD will win the price/performance war. Huh? FX-62: $877.98, Core 2 Duo E6600 (2.40GHz) $316 I just picked up an AM2 4600+ for $249 shipped to my door. Sure. & AMD is supposed to announce another price cut as well (though they will be hard pressed to keep margins over %5), so they DO compete well in that 4600 vs E6400 space, I guess... though with the 6600 trumping AMD's flagship for less than half the price, I'm not sure how big that N-1 market will be for the next year or so. -- Standard Disclaimer: My Employer gives my internet access, but I don't speak for them... So blame me for saying something dumb, not them. I'm Clay Cahill, and I approve this post. |
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Once again, what's youz guyz problem with ,Net? - he asked with a pronounced
Brooklyn accent. "Master Baiter" wrote in message ... "shegeek72" groups.com... AirRaid wrote: http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33230 Intel in the crosshairs, as execs explain themselves By Paul Hales: Monday 24 July 2006, 14:31 BEST MATES AMD and ATI held a conference call today in which the companies' biggest cheeses sought justify their new cohabitation. But will they get rid of the stupid and outdated .Net requirement to d/l ATI drivers? I know they can be downloaded from other websites, but I didn't find out about that until after hours of frustration trying to download drivers from the ATI website and no response from ATI tech support, and I'm sure many others aren't aware of it. I've swtiched to nVidia because of it and it'll take a lot to get me to switch back. FYI, if you choose to download only the display driver (in their "For slower connection" part), you don't need that stinking .NET thing. The .NET requirement only apply to the useless control center. SG -- This isn't an office, it's hell with flourescent lighting. |
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* magnate:
Switching gfx cards just to avoid .NET is just plain silly... No, no it isn't. People switch their entire OS to avoid .NET - some of us would happily switch our entire house. And the reason is? Benjamin |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:18:58 +0800, Man-wai Chang
wrote: Ed Forsythe wrote: Once again, what's youz guyz problem with ,Net? - he asked with a pronounced Brooklyn accent. I am really puzzled when I learnt that a hardware driver would have something to do with .Net... I beleive that the driver itself doesn't so if you simply install just the driver (the low bandwidth download, or dial up download or something like that) and not the fancy applets, you'll be fine. It's the applets and the way they take advantage of some of the new aspx calls. -- Standard Disclaimer: My Employer gives my internet access, but I don't speak for them... So blame me for saying something dumb, not them. Clay Cahill 2006 "I would just like to say that after all these years of heavy drinking, bright lights and late nights, I still don't need glasses. I drink right out of the bottle." - David Lee Roth |
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Merged AMD-ATI monster embarks on monopoly-busting
Benjamin Gawert wrote:
And the reason is? 1. It's typical Microshaft bloatware. 2. It screwed up my desktop, that I spent a couple hours customizing (Fortunately, uninstalling .Net returned things to normal) 3. .Net is basically obsolete and a failure. It hasn't received the widespread acceptance and usage that MS wanted. 4. It can be a security risk. See: http://tinyurl.com/jdom7 5. There's no reason why it's needed to d/l video drivers. |
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Benjamin Gawert wrote: And the reason is? 1. It's typical Microshaft bloatware. 2. It screwed up my desktop, that I spent a couple hours customizing (Fortunately, uninstalling .Net returned things to normal) 3. .Net is basically obsolete and a failure. It hasn't received the widespread acceptance and usage that MS wanted. Link? 4. It can be a security risk. See: http://tinyurl.com/jdom7 Lol. "Security Alert. The name on the security certificate is invalid or does not match the name on the site". Got a link (preferably not tinyurl) that's less of a 'security risk'? 5. There's no reason why it's needed to d/l video drivers. |
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"Walter Mitty" wrote in message ...
writes: Benjamin Gawert wrote: And the reason is? 1. It's typical Microshaft bloatware. Like the rest of the OS. .net is nothing special in this regard. 2. It screwed up my desktop, that I spent a couple hours customizing (Fortunately, uninstalling .Net returned things to normal) Did it? How? 3. .Net is basically obsolete and a failure. It hasn't received the widespread acceptance and usage that MS wanted. Hardly obsolete though. 4. It can be a security risk. See: http://tinyurl.com/jdom7 As can all web services. 5. There's no reason why it's needed to d/l video drivers. There obviously is or you wouldnt need it. The question is more why the hell it *is* needed? Are you sure its not just needed for the installation? I dont recall it being needed to ftp the driver down ... In Win2K/XP, .NET is never "needed", except for developers (e.g. ATI) who're too incompetent, lazy or both to write their own full drivers. |
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:33:11 -0700, Clay Cahill
wrote: On 24 Jul 2006 18:27:14 -0700, "GrispernMix" wrote: I just want to know, does this mean I will have to go with intel to keep using nvidia? -- Actually i think it means you will have to stay with amd to keep ati, you gotta get amd, and vice versa with intel, Nope. NOt so far. AMD has made a point to say that they wouldn't do anything to cause their products problems (like make crossfire not work on Intel chipsets) I think its going to be monumental move, if at least intel merges with nvidia, and then it will be a battle of the titans, Never happen (IMO). Intel has no need for chipset design & foundry (which is what AMD's move was partly motivated by) & NVidia now sees a clear playing field for the super lucrative high end market that they already excel in. AMD needs chipset design and foundry... from ATI?? Where did you pull that from? First AMD knows how to do chipsets -- uhh, they've done it -- and Ruiz has already stated "there are no plans in the near future to combine the manufacturing of AMD and ATI chips into an integrated foundry". -- Rgds, George Macdonald |
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