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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
please see post just above this one paul?? where are you ?
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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
Pete Rynas wrote:
please see post just above this one paul?? where are you ? So, like, have you looked at the BIOS settings yet ? And what does the CPUZ show for the SPD contents of the RAM. Is it showing as DDR2-800 or what ? In this example picture, the SPD shows a product that can run 5-5-5-15 at DDR2-1000. That is what the 500MHz means, that it is DDR2-1000 RAM. The SPD may not always reflect the full capabilities of the RAM, and thus you may need to use more than a simple "Auto" in the BIOS, to get your RAM to work at its full spec. http://www.bcchardware.com/gallery/a...1/CPUZ_SPD.gif When I get a new motherboard, I spend 30 minutes going through the BIOS, flipping stuff to "Manual", just to see what settings are available. On Gigabyte, advanced settings are hidden, and you need to press F1 or something. The following is copied from a Gigabyte manual, and you need to press control-F1. "To access the BIOS Setup program, press the Delete key during the POST when the power is turned on. To see more advanced BIOS Setup menu options, you can press Ctrl + F1 in the main menu of the BIOS Setup program." The fun begins, once you press control-F1 :-) Paul |
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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
the ocz , no matter what i set it at in bios showed up i n sis-sandra as
pc6400, 800mhz ( iforgot the cas stuff) but i was running it at 812mhz at times. now the word back from kingston was that this new ram ( i wanted 2 2gig sticks so i bought the kingston) "etreme x" they call it is 5-5-5-15 pc6400. in sis sandra it runs at pc5400? at 5-5-5-19 and 667 mhz- the tech said it is for "overclockers" who know how to set it and that it has been tested and ran @ 800 - i just have to figure it out. i don't even know what SPD stands for and have never had issues overclocking a little , but this bios is out of my league ! and i never have seen the ctrl/f1 stuff - i guess i'll have a look thanks paul , anything further would help pete "Paul" wrote in message ... Pete Rynas wrote: please see post just above this one paul?? where are you ? So, like, have you looked at the BIOS settings yet ? And what does the CPUZ show for the SPD contents of the RAM. Is it showing as DDR2-800 or what ? In this example picture, the SPD shows a product that can run 5-5-5-15 at DDR2-1000. That is what the 500MHz means, that it is DDR2-1000 RAM. The SPD may not always reflect the full capabilities of the RAM, and thus you may need to use more than a simple "Auto" in the BIOS, to get your RAM to work at its full spec. http://www.bcchardware.com/gallery/a...1/CPUZ_SPD.gif When I get a new motherboard, I spend 30 minutes going through the BIOS, flipping stuff to "Manual", just to see what settings are available. On Gigabyte, advanced settings are hidden, and you need to press F1 or something. The following is copied from a Gigabyte manual, and you need to press control-F1. "To access the BIOS Setup program, press the Delete key during the POST when the power is turned on. To see more advanced BIOS Setup menu options, you can press Ctrl + F1 in the main menu of the BIOS Setup program." The fun begins, once you press control-F1 :-) Paul |
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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
Pete Rynas wrote:
the ocz , no matter what i set it at in bios showed up i n sis-sandra as pc6400, 800mhz ( iforgot the cas stuff) but i was running it at 812mhz at times. now the word back from kingston was that this new ram ( i wanted 2 2gig sticks so i bought the kingston) "etreme x" they call it is 5-5-5-15 pc6400. in sis sandra it runs at pc5400? at 5-5-5-19 and 667 mhz- the tech said it is for "overclockers" who know how to set it and that it has been tested and ran @ 800 - i just have to figure it out. i don't even know what SPD stands for and have never had issues overclocking a little , but this bios is out of my league ! and i never have seen the ctrl/f1 stuff - i guess i'll have a look thanks paul , anything further would help pete Well, have a look in the BIOS first, press control-F1, and then perhaps you'll have some questions to ask. SPD stands for Serial Presence Detect. All the DIMMs share a serial bus (SMBUS?), and during the BIOS POST sequence, the BIOS reads out the chip on each DIMM. The chip on the DIMM is small, and has 8 pins or fewer. It is programmed at the factory. For your PC2-6400 RAM, the SPD could either contain timings for PC2-6400 or it could contain PC2-5300, and the reason for the latter being used, is so that the customer is guaranteed to have a computer that starts up. If too aggressive a setting is used by default in the SPD EEPROM, the computer may crash and never POST. The module maker doesn't want that to happen, so they write non-aggressive settings in the SPD. If the module uses those kind of conservative settings, then adjusting memory frequency in "control-F1" should fix it. You can leave the other settings at "Auto", all except memory frequency, and let the BIOS work out the values. Then, once you're back in Windows, you can use CPUZ to check what actually happened. Remember, in CPUZ, that the frequency must be doubled, to get the DDR2-xxxx value. These are the interesting ones, I see in the BIOS section of the manual. System Memory Multiplier Options are dependent on CPU FSB. Auto uses SPD data. Try manual. Memory Frequency (Mhz) The first memory frequency value is the normal operating frequency of the memory being used; The second is the memory frequency that is automatically adjusted according to the CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) and System Memory Multiplier settings. [ Takes into account any overclocking - adjust so the memory runs consistent with its ratings. ] DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) Manual setting allows all DRAM Timing items below to be configurable. [ You can set this to Manual, and leave the detailed timings at Auto for the time being. If CPUZ shows anything is not programmed correctly, you can return to this menu and fix it. ] HTH, Paul |
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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
cpu -z shows 200 266 or 333 @ 5-5-5-15 , but i have the ram in the bios with
+.1v and a few other tweaks , sis-sandra now shows 846 mhz but still calls it pc5300 and cpu-z only shows to 333 and also pc5300 , but i think it is now really running closer to what it should? what next , go more FSB and memory voltage or just be satisfied ha ha ? "Paul" wrote in message ... Pete Rynas wrote: please see post just above this one paul?? where are you ? So, like, have you looked at the BIOS settings yet ? And what does the CPUZ show for the SPD contents of the RAM. Is it showing as DDR2-800 or what ? In this example picture, the SPD shows a product that can run 5-5-5-15 at DDR2-1000. That is what the 500MHz means, that it is DDR2-1000 RAM. The SPD may not always reflect the full capabilities of the RAM, and thus you may need to use more than a simple "Auto" in the BIOS, to get your RAM to work at its full spec. http://www.bcchardware.com/gallery/a...1/CPUZ_SPD.gif When I get a new motherboard, I spend 30 minutes going through the BIOS, flipping stuff to "Manual", just to see what settings are available. On Gigabyte, advanced settings are hidden, and you need to press F1 or something. The following is copied from a Gigabyte manual, and you need to press control-F1. "To access the BIOS Setup program, press the Delete key during the POST when the power is turned on. To see more advanced BIOS Setup menu options, you can press Ctrl + F1 in the main menu of the BIOS Setup program." The fun begins, once you press control-F1 :-) Paul |
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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
spd 422.5 , fsb:dram=4:5 cas#latency 5 clocks , r to c 7 clocks trp 7
clocks t ras 20 clocks cr 2t ?? make sence? "Paul" wrote in message ... Pete Rynas wrote: please see post just above this one paul?? where are you ? So, like, have you looked at the BIOS settings yet ? And what does the CPUZ show for the SPD contents of the RAM. Is it showing as DDR2-800 or what ? In this example picture, the SPD shows a product that can run 5-5-5-15 at DDR2-1000. That is what the 500MHz means, that it is DDR2-1000 RAM. The SPD may not always reflect the full capabilities of the RAM, and thus you may need to use more than a simple "Auto" in the BIOS, to get your RAM to work at its full spec. http://www.bcchardware.com/gallery/a...1/CPUZ_SPD.gif When I get a new motherboard, I spend 30 minutes going through the BIOS, flipping stuff to "Manual", just to see what settings are available. On Gigabyte, advanced settings are hidden, and you need to press F1 or something. The following is copied from a Gigabyte manual, and you need to press control-F1. "To access the BIOS Setup program, press the Delete key during the POST when the power is turned on. To see more advanced BIOS Setup menu options, you can press Ctrl + F1 in the main menu of the BIOS Setup program." The fun begins, once you press control-F1 :-) Paul |
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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
Pete Rynas wrote:
spd 422.5 , fsb:dram=4:5 cas#latency 5 clocks , r to c 7 clocks trp 7 clocks t ras 20 clocks cr 2t ?? make sence? "Paul" wrote in message ... The "memory" tab in CPUZ, shows the current conditions. In this example, actually running frequency is 334.9MHz, and doubling that gives DDR2-670 or so. The individual timings used are 5-5-5-15. http://xtreview.com/images/amd-turio...0000038979.png If you're seeing 422.5MHz in your "memory" tab, then that is a bit faster than DDR2-800. Paul |
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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
"Paul" wrote in message ... Pete Rynas wrote: please see post just above this one paul?? where are you ? So, like, have you looked at the BIOS settings yet ? And what does the CPUZ show for the SPD contents of the RAM. Is it showing as DDR2-800 or what ? In this example picture, the SPD shows a product that can run 5-5-5-15 at DDR2-1000. That is what the 500MHz means, that it is DDR2-1000 RAM. The SPD may not always reflect the full capabilities of the RAM, and thus you may need to use more than a simple "Auto" in the BIOS, to get your RAM to work at its full spec. http://www.bcchardware.com/gallery/a...1/CPUZ_SPD.gif When I get a new motherboard, I spend 30 minutes going through the BIOS, flipping stuff to "Manual", just to see what settings are available. On Gigabyte, advanced settings are hidden, and you need to press F1 or something. The following is copied from a Gigabyte manual, and you need to press control-F1. "To access the BIOS Setup program, press the Delete key during the POST when the power is turned on. To see more advanced BIOS Setup menu options, you can press Ctrl + F1 in the main menu of the BIOS Setup program." The fun begins, once you press control-F1 :-) Paul Paul, what board are you referring to?. |
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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
sorry , the board is the gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L/S3L pete
"Core2Duo" wrote in message ... "Paul" wrote in message ... Pete Rynas wrote: please see post just above this one paul?? where are you ? So, like, have you looked at the BIOS settings yet ? And what does the CPUZ show for the SPD contents of the RAM. Is it showing as DDR2-800 or what ? In this example picture, the SPD shows a product that can run 5-5-5-15 at DDR2-1000. That is what the 500MHz means, that it is DDR2-1000 RAM. The SPD may not always reflect the full capabilities of the RAM, and thus you may need to use more than a simple "Auto" in the BIOS, to get your RAM to work at its full spec. http://www.bcchardware.com/gallery/a...1/CPUZ_SPD.gif When I get a new motherboard, I spend 30 minutes going through the BIOS, flipping stuff to "Manual", just to see what settings are available. On Gigabyte, advanced settings are hidden, and you need to press F1 or something. The following is copied from a Gigabyte manual, and you need to press control-F1. "To access the BIOS Setup program, press the Delete key during the POST when the power is turned on. To see more advanced BIOS Setup menu options, you can press Ctrl + F1 in the main menu of the BIOS Setup program." The fun begins, once you press control-F1 :-) Paul Paul, what board are you referring to?. |
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Help- hyperx kingston , see post
looks like you got it right again , ( the tech at kingston did say this ram
was for overclockers - probably the reason for it showing up as you said at pc5300) - now that i have followed your suggestions and do show in "memory" of CPU-Z of 422.5 ( X2 = 845 mhz) so it looks like i have (you) have succesfully overclocked this memory as it is intented to do and i have learned from you again ! i wonder how far and to what advantage i should take it and the processor? thanks again pete "Paul" wrote in message ... Pete Rynas wrote: the ocz , no matter what i set it at in bios showed up i n sis-sandra as pc6400, 800mhz ( iforgot the cas stuff) but i was running it at 812mhz at times. now the word back from kingston was that this new ram ( i wanted 2 2gig sticks so i bought the kingston) "etreme x" they call it is 5-5-5-15 pc6400. in sis sandra it runs at pc5400? at 5-5-5-19 and 667 mhz- the tech said it is for "overclockers" who know how to set it and that it has been tested and ran @ 800 - i just have to figure it out. i don't even know what SPD stands for and have never had issues overclocking a little , but this bios is out of my league ! and i never have seen the ctrl/f1 stuff - i guess i'll have a look thanks paul , anything further would help pete Well, have a look in the BIOS first, press control-F1, and then perhaps you'll have some questions to ask. SPD stands for Serial Presence Detect. All the DIMMs share a serial bus (SMBUS?), and during the BIOS POST sequence, the BIOS reads out the chip on each DIMM. The chip on the DIMM is small, and has 8 pins or fewer. It is programmed at the factory. For your PC2-6400 RAM, the SPD could either contain timings for PC2-6400 or it could contain PC2-5300, and the reason for the latter being used, is so that the customer is guaranteed to have a computer that starts up. If too aggressive a setting is used by default in the SPD EEPROM, the computer may crash and never POST. The module maker doesn't want that to happen, so they write non-aggressive settings in the SPD. If the module uses those kind of conservative settings, then adjusting memory frequency in "control-F1" should fix it. You can leave the other settings at "Auto", all except memory frequency, and let the BIOS work out the values. Then, once you're back in Windows, you can use CPUZ to check what actually happened. Remember, in CPUZ, that the frequency must be doubled, to get the DDR2-xxxx value. These are the interesting ones, I see in the BIOS section of the manual. System Memory Multiplier Options are dependent on CPU FSB. Auto uses SPD data. Try manual. Memory Frequency (Mhz) The first memory frequency value is the normal operating frequency of the memory being used; The second is the memory frequency that is automatically adjusted according to the CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) and System Memory Multiplier settings. [ Takes into account any overclocking - adjust so the memory runs consistent with its ratings. ] DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) Manual setting allows all DRAM Timing items below to be configurable. [ You can set this to Manual, and leave the detailed timings at Auto for the time being. If CPUZ shows anything is not programmed correctly, you can return to this menu and fix it. ] HTH, Paul |
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