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Graphic card for Windows Server 2003
Hello !
I need to buy a graphic card suitable for Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 32 bits. The computer based on on an Intel D945GCNL mainboard will be used for software development. I need a card model with good performance (no need for top level performance since it is not gaming), I need a resolution of 1600x1200 /and/ 1920x1200, I would like to have the possibility to connect two LCD-VGA monitors for yet better resolution (dual screen mode each of the above resolution). Having a driver for Windows Server 2003 seems to be a big problem. Most cards doesn't have such driver. Which model would you recommand ? Thanks for any advice. -- The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be |
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Francois PIETTE wrote:
Having a driver for Windows Server 2003 seems to be a big problem. Most cards doesn't have such driver. Lies. Which model would you recommand ? Any current card by any leading maker suits your 'purpose'. |
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Graphic card for Windows Server 2003
I need to buy a graphic card suitable for Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard
Edition 32 bits. The computer based on on an Intel D945GCNL mainboard will be used for software development. I think I see your problem.......do you know what the purpose of Windows Server 2003 is? Why would you want to convert it to a workstation? Any card will do. |
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Graphic card for Windows Server 2003
I need to buy a graphic card suitable for Windows Server 2003 R2
Standard Edition 32 bits. The computer based on on an Intel D945GCNL mainboard will be used for software development. I think I see your problem.......do you know what the purpose of Windows Server 2003 is? Why would you want to convert it to a workstation? I don't like the way you answer and assume I'm an idiot. I perfectly know what a server is and what a workstation is. Have you ever /developped/ SERVER software ? Have ever had to debug your software in a real situation, that is using the same OS as the customer will use it ? Have you ever considered working confortably on a server ? Any card will do. Actually not. Altough you may use driver suitable for XP, you have an issue with certification. The driver /may/ work, actually it looks like it is working. But it has not been /certified/ for the OS. Do you know what certification means ? -- Author of ICS (Internet Component Suite, freeware) Author of MidWare (Multi-tier framework, freeware) http://www.overbyte.be |
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Graphic card for Windows Server 2003
Have you ever /developped/ SERVER software ? Have ever had to debug your
software in a real situation, that is using the same OS as the customer will use it ? Have you ever considered working confortably on a server ? Yes. I have, and continue to do so actually. Every day. I work in the IT department where the primary server OS used Windows Server 2003 and SQL server. Not that you'll likely believe that anyway, however...if your're trying to emulate end user and client servers to debug your code by installing Windows Server 2003 ask yourself this question: How many clients / businesses have you ever seen in your life that run Windows Server 2003 on a non-dedicated server? And how many clients have you got that use non-m/b embedded video cards in their servers? And if client emulation is your goal, why are not running your OS on an actual server and server board? The board you mention has no RAID, no ECC memory, no Xeon support, etc. The embedded IGMA 950 graphics supports up to 2048x1536. I've lost count of the number of Windows Server 2000 and 2003 reisntalls I've done, and finding a proper graphics driver has never been an issue. |
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Graphic card for Windows Server 2003
"Augustus" wrote in message
news:nIyzj.66096$w57.8103@edtnps90... Have you ever /developped/ SERVER software ? Have ever had to debug your software in a real situation, that is using the same OS as the customer will use it ? Have you ever considered working confortably on a server ? Yes. I have, and continue to do so actually. Every day. I work in the IT department where the primary server OS used Windows Server 2003 and SQL server. Not that you'll likely believe that anyway, however...if your're trying to emulate end user and client servers to debug your code by installing Windows Server 2003 ask yourself this question: How many clients / businesses have you ever seen in your life that run Windows Server 2003 on a non-dedicated server? And how many clients have you got that use non-m/b embedded video cards in their servers? And if client emulation is your goal, why are not running your OS on an actual server and server board? The board you mention has no RAID, no ECC memory, no Xeon support, etc. The embedded IGMA 950 graphics supports up to 2048x1536. I've lost count of the number of Windows Server 2000 and 2003 reisntalls I've done, and finding a proper graphics driver has never been an issue. Honestly, this is one of the stupidest and most short-sighted posts I have read. Why is it manufacturers of video cards think that there is some federal law that mandates end users to use the lowest common denominator software? EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPER IN OUR COMPANY RUNS WINDOWS SERVER AS THEIR DESKTOP OPERATING SYSTEM. They all INSIST on this because they WANT the ADDITIONAL CAPABILITY in the server version of the software. Examples of such capabilities are the ability to terminal service into another developer's computer WHILE THAT COMPUTER HAS A DIFFERENT USER ON ITS CONSOLE. You cannot do this with Windows XP or Windows 7. Instead of trying to browbeat people like the original poster, why not start listening to customers and what they are telling you? Some of us WANT a SERVER operating system on our DESKTOP COMPUTERs and YES WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT VERY VERY CAREFULLY AND MADE A GOOD DECISION. Didn't Sun Microsystems create a pretty big company by putting a server operating system - UNIX - onto the desktops of engineers and programmers? Why is it no one can think clearly about the reasons why people would want to do the same thing with Windows Server? Absolutely frustrating to read nonsense like the above post. My response is five years too late, but I'm facing the same problem now of upgrading video cards on workstations running server, and I'm seeing that nVidia in its infinite stupidity wants to dumb down all of its users to use the worst common denominator software possible. -- W |
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My favorite story about the idiocy of software manufacturers who
deliberately sabotage their software working on Windows Server, and force users to use Windows XP or Windows 7/8: I was trying to install an Adobe product on a user's personal workstation, which was running Windows Server. We had a requirement for that user that other people be able to login to her computer remotely via Terminal Services, so there wasn't really a better choice. In any case, the support staff at Adobe went through the same flawed thinking process as displayed by the user below feeding nonsense about how Windows Server was a "Server Operating System" and no end user should ever want to use it. Jump forward two weeks: I contacted a friend who works in engineering at Adobe. I complained to him about this. He started laughing. What's funny, I asked? "All of our developers of that product run Windows Server as the operating system on their development machines." So the developers in the company were all using Windows Server, because they wanted the FEATURES in the server product on their personal desktop, but the geniuses who run the marketing department made the decision that no one else should ever use a Server OS. Brilliant!!! nVidia's marketing department is apparently filled to the brim with such geniuses. -- W "W" wrote in message ... "Augustus" wrote in message news:nIyzj.66096$w57.8103@edtnps90... Have you ever /developped/ SERVER software ? Have ever had to debug your software in a real situation, that is using the same OS as the customer will use it ? Have you ever considered working confortably on a server ? Yes. I have, and continue to do so actually. Every day. I work in the IT department where the primary server OS used Windows Server 2003 and SQL server. Not that you'll likely believe that anyway, however...if your're trying to emulate end user and client servers to debug your code by installing Windows Server 2003 ask yourself this question: How many clients / businesses have you ever seen in your life that run Windows Server 2003 on a non-dedicated server? And how many clients have you got that use non-m/b embedded video cards in their servers? And if client emulation is your goal, why are not running your OS on an actual server and server board? The board you mention has no RAID, no ECC memory, no Xeon support, etc. The embedded IGMA 950 graphics supports up to 2048x1536. I've lost count of the number of Windows Server 2000 and 2003 reisntalls I've done, and finding a proper graphics driver has never been an issue. Honestly, this is one of the stupidest and most short-sighted posts I have read. Why is it manufacturers of video cards think that there is some federal law that mandates end users to use the lowest common denominator software? EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPER IN OUR COMPANY RUNS WINDOWS SERVER AS THEIR DESKTOP OPERATING SYSTEM. They all INSIST on this because they WANT the ADDITIONAL CAPABILITY in the server version of the software. Examples of such capabilities are the ability to terminal service into another developer's computer WHILE THAT COMPUTER HAS A DIFFERENT USER ON ITS CONSOLE. You cannot do this with Windows XP or Windows 7. Instead of trying to browbeat people like the original poster, why not start listening to customers and what they are telling you? Some of us WANT a SERVER operating system on our DESKTOP COMPUTERs and YES WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT VERY VERY CAREFULLY AND MADE A GOOD DECISION. Didn't Sun Microsystems create a pretty big company by putting a server operating system - UNIX - onto the desktops of engineers and programmers? Why is it no one can think clearly about the reasons why people would want to do the same thing with Windows Server? Absolutely frustrating to read nonsense like the above post. My response is five years too late, but I'm facing the same problem now of upgrading video cards on workstations running server, and I'm seeing that nVidia in its infinite stupidity wants to dumb down all of its users to use the worst common denominator software possible. -- W |
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Graphic card for Windows Server 2003
Francois Piette wrote:
Actually not. Altough you may use driver suitable for XP, you have an issue with certification. The driver /may/ work, actually it looks like it is working. But it has not been /certified/ for the OS. Do you know what certification means ? So, your question has been answered, "any card+driver will do". You acknowledge that much. But then you want to move the goal-posts and add an additional criteria "Windows 2003 certified". Seems you have extra criteria hidden in your noodle until you are ready to divulge it. No wonder you won't ask Microsoft for their 2K+3 hardware compatibility URL, they likely have dealt with you before and are ready for you! |
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Graphic card for Windows Server 2003
Francois PIETTE wrote:
Hello ! I need to buy a graphic card suitable for Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 32 bits. The computer based on on an Intel D945GCNL mainboard will be used for software development. I need a card model with good performance (no need for top level performance since it is not gaming), I need a resolution of 1600x1200 /and/ 1920x1200, I would like to have the possibility to connect two LCD-VGA monitors for yet better resolution (dual screen mode each of the above resolution). Having a driver for Windows Server 2003 seems to be a big problem. Most cards doesn't have such driver. Which model would you recommand ? Thanks for any advice. -- The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be "Windows Server 2003 as a Workstation Guide" http://web.archive.org/web/200308191...%20G uide.pdf "Enable Hardware Acceleration By default Windows Server 2003 is hardware acceleration disabled for graphics cards, meaning only 2D and limited 3D capability is there. We can enable all this painlessly and without much effort. You will still be required to install 3D enabled drivers (like ATi Catalyst or nVIDIA Detonator drivers) for Windows 2000/XP. These can be installed on Windows Server 2003 but only after hardware acceleration is enabled will they work (and display the 3D related tabs in display properties) . " HTH, Paul |
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Graphic card for Windows Server 2003
I need to buy a graphic card suitable for Windows Server 2003 R2
Standard Edition 32 bits. The computer based on on an Intel D945GCNL mainboard will be used for software development. I need a card model with good performance (no need for top level performance since it is not gaming), I need a resolution of 1600x1200 /and/ 1920x1200, I would like to have the possibility to connect two LCD-VGA monitors for yet better resolution (dual screen mode each of the above resolution). Having a driver for Windows Server 2003 seems to be a big problem. Most cards doesn't have such driver. Which model would you recommand ? "Windows Server 2003 as a Workstation Guide" http://web.archive.org/web/200308191...%20G uide.pdf Altough not directly related to my issue, this document is interesting. Thanks. -- Author of ICS (Internet Component Suite, freeware) Author of MidWare (Multi-tier framework, freeware) http://www.overbyte.be |
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