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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
In a 9-0 decision, the winner is... Privacy!
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...2014.html?_r=1 http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arg...13-132&TY=2013 Oral argument from last week's Supreme Court case "Riley v. California". It's mainly about the difference between the police searching your wallet and searching your smartphone. There is some technical stuff (like referring to prior cases), but most of it is common language. |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:43:27 +0000, John Doe wrote:
In a 9-0 decision, the winner is... Privacy! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...supreme-court- decisions-in-2014.html?_r=1 http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arg...o_detail.aspx? argument=13-132&TY=2013 Oral argument from last week's Supreme Court case "Riley v. California". It's mainly about the difference between the police searching your wallet and searching your smartphone. There is some technical stuff (like referring to prior cases), but most of it is common language. I don't know what you think the police will do, but I know for a fact what they do in the netherlands, regardless of what they are entitled to do. They search and store everything and keep it forever, just like our ISP's Windows, Google and all other companies that manage to steel our private data. Edmund |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"Edmund" wrote in message
... On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:43:27 +0000, John Doe wrote: In a 9-0 decision, the winner is... Privacy! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...supreme-court- decisions-in-2014.html?_r=1 http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arg...o_detail.aspx? argument=13-132&TY=2013 Oral argument from last week's Supreme Court case "Riley v. California". It's mainly about the difference between the police searching your wallet and searching your smartphone. There is some technical stuff (like referring to prior cases), but most of it is common language. I don't know what you think the police will do, but I know for a fact what they do in the netherlands, regardless of what they are entitled to do. They search and store everything and keep it forever, just like our ISP's Windows, Google and all other companies that manage to steel our private data. Edmund The police here in the USA seem to be no different. There is a difference between what they are permitted to do and what they actually do. The "climate" of law enforcement has changed. Citizens are viewed as suspicious and we are treated that way. The police are supposed to protect and serve the public, they do neither. The courts have ruled that they are not obligated to protect us. They serve their own interests rather than the public's. |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote:
John Doe wrote: In a 9-0 decision, the winner is... Privacy! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...2014.html?_r=1 There is a difference between what they are permitted to do and what they actually do. The "climate" of law enforcement has changed. Citizens are viewed as suspicious and we are treated that way. The police are supposed to protect and serve the public, they do neither. The courts have ruled that they are not obligated to protect us. Citations please... They serve their own interests rather than the public's. I would bet that the percentage of bad cops roughly parallels the percentage of bad people. To most of them, it's a job, just like work is to the rest of us. Cops have to deal with some very slimy people. And when you are dealing with a cop, you need to respect its power. But of course on the Internet your ego runs wild. I've seen plenty of morons on the Internet bashing police officers. -- Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.android Subject: OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet? Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:38:37 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 39 Message-ID: loh7oq$3j0$1 speranza.aioe.org References: ll5tss$lr2$2 dont-email.me loftrv$36q$1 dont-email.me logfhm$k47$1 dont-email.me NNTP-Posting-Host: IDZA8Fot3QCrC0IFDB55Pw.user.speranza.aioe.org X-Complaints-To: abuse aioe.org X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:30594 alt.windows7.general:102806 comp.mobile.android:9369 |
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On 26/06/2014 18:20, John Doe wrote:
I would bet that the percentage of bad cops roughly parallels the percentage of bad people. To most of them, it's a job, just like work is to the rest of us. Cops have to deal with some very slimy people. And when you are dealing with a cop, you need to respect its power. But of course on the Internet your ego runs wild. I've seen plenty of morons on the Internet bashing police officers. Are you an American? |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
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-- OldeGit am yon.in wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!e asy.in-chemnitz.de!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!wer etis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!wieslauf.sub.de! .POSTED!not-for-mail From: OldeGit am yon.in Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.android ,free.usenet,free.spirit Subject: OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet? Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:43:43 +0100 Organization: Wieslauf BBS Lines: 12 Message-ID: lohm4a$ek2$1 wieslauf.sub.de References: ll5tss$lr2$2 dont-email.me loftrv$36q$1 dont-email.me logfhm$k47$1 dont-email.me loh7oq$3j0$1 speranza.aioe.org lohknv$3t0$1 dont-email.me NNTP-Posting-Host: CaFM7y3/L6Rfwkj8am32/w.user.wieslauf.sub.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet wieslauf.sub.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:43:38 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20140502 FossaMail/24.5.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:XN0F3CCfg5Qqsh8QTGvgZAHg+tU= Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:30597 alt.windows7.general:102849 comp.mobile.android:9371 free.usenet:6418173 free.spirit:1927 On 26/06/2014 18:20, John Doe wrote: I would bet that the percentage of bad cops roughly parallels the percentage of bad people. To most of them, it's a job, just like work is to the rest of us. Cops have to deal with some very slimy people. And when you are dealing with a cop, you need to respect its power. But of course on the Internet your ego runs wild. I've seen plenty of morons on the Internet bashing police officers. Are you an American? |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"John Doe" wrote in message ... "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote: John Doe wrote: In a 9-0 decision, the winner is... Privacy! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...2014.html?_r=1 There is a difference between what they are permitted to do and what they actually do. The "climate" of law enforcement has changed. Citizens are viewed as suspicious and we are treated that way. The police are supposed to protect and serve the public, they do neither. The courts have ruled that they are not obligated to protect us. Citations please... http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po...otus.html?_r=0 but you'll argue about anyway, won't you? They serve their own interests rather than the public's. I would bet that the percentage of bad cops roughly parallels the percentage of bad people. To most of them, it's a job, just like work is to the rest of us. Cops have to deal with some very slimy people. And when you are dealing with a cop, you need to respect its power. But of course on the Internet your ego runs wild. I've seen plenty of morons on the Internet bashing police officers. It's not "just a job". Did you take on oath to protect and preserve the Constitution when you got your job? Do you carry a gun and have the power to arrest people and change the course of their lives? No, it's not just a job, it's a position that carries a lot of responsibility. Cops need to respect the citizens who they are supposed to serve and who pay their salaries rather than treat us as suspects. Wait until the day comes when you are harassed for doing absolutely nothing wrong and are unfortunate enough to have to deal with a bully cop who is having a bad day and wants to take it out on someone. The bad cops are in the minority but the good ones, despite what they may claim, do nothing but cover for them. |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote:
"John Doe" always.look message.header wrote "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote: John Doe wrote: In a 9-0 decision, the winner is... Privacy! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...2014.html?_r=1 There is a difference between what they are permitted to do and what they actually do. The "climate" of law enforcement has changed. Citizens are viewed as suspicious and we are treated that way. The police are supposed to protect and serve the public, they do neither. The courts have ruled that they are not obligated to protect us. Citations please... http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po...otus.html?_r=0 Because the title of the article is "Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone", you believe that it's true? In the ruling, where does it say that? In the article, according to a prior ruling "social service workers [do not have the constitutional duty] to protect a young boy from a beating by his father". And apparently that precedent was upheld. My interest is the judicial, not your personal problems with the police. You can find lots of fellow whiners on YouTube if you want to continue whining about police mistreatment. It's got to be the most whined about subject on the Internet. |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote:
.... By the way... You are a girl, aren't you? |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
Per John Doe:
I would bet that the percentage of bad cops roughly parallels the percentage of bad people. I would agree - with emphasis on "roughly". I'm guessing police work attracts a certain percentage of unsuitable people just as fire fighting attracts pyromaniacs and child care attracts pedophiles. I tend to be a little suspicious when I hear about a guy who "always wanted to be a cop". Possibly an overreaction, but it's been in my mind ever since I read about a NYC cop who became Policeman Of The Year or somesuch. The question was "Why did you become a police officer?" and the answer was "I was out of work and they were hiring." OTOH, there's Serpico who, by all accounts, always wanted to be cop and turned out to be an exceptional one. -- Pete Cresswell |
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