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Vista and 3rd party firewall
Just wondering what you guys are using as your 3rd party firewall on
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"RnR" wrote in message news Just wondering what you guys are using as your 3rd party firewall on Vista (excluding Vista's own) ? Does it behave nicely with Vista? Alright. At the risk of being flamed, I'm only going to offer the opinion that a 3rd party firewall isn't needed - especially if you're behind a router. The firewall in Vista (in my limited experience so far) is more aggressive and apparent than the passive (incoming) firewall in WinXP. Couple that with the already legendary Vista UAC controls (if left enabled), and you've got a fairly obnoxious and secure system by default (again, if behind a router). Here's the official Redmond line on the Vista firewall: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../firewall.mspx RnR, you may have specific reason(s) that you'd want to disable the native VF and, if so, I'd imagine that ZA and the other usual suspects are out there that will be compatible with Vista. Given that more is learned about the new OS every day, I reserve the right to be completely wrong and or FOS. But that's my opinion at the moment....... Stew |
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:08:19 -0500, "Tom Scales"
wrote: -----Original Message----- From: RnR ] Posted At: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:50 AM Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell Conversation: Vista and 3rd party firewall Subject: Vista and 3rd party firewall Just wondering what you guys are using as your 3rd party firewall on Vista (excluding Vista's own) ? Does it behave nicely with Vista? How about none? If you're behind a decent router, I'm not convinced of the need. I use to hear the same but since reading more my understanding of routers is that they only protect traffic inbound but not traffic outbound. That's why many want firewalls that do both (2 way protection) unlike the XP built in firewall (one way protection). I think it was Stew who told me that Vista has a 2 way firewall but I see many still opt for 3rd party firewalls (not sure why at this point tho). |
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 07:49:35 -0600, "S.Lewis"
wrote: "RnR" wrote in message news Just wondering what you guys are using as your 3rd party firewall on Vista (excluding Vista's own) ? Does it behave nicely with Vista? Alright. At the risk of being flamed, I'm only going to offer the opinion that a 3rd party firewall isn't needed - especially if you're behind a router. The firewall in Vista (in my limited experience so far) is more aggressive and apparent than the passive (incoming) firewall in WinXP. Couple that with the already legendary Vista UAC controls (if left enabled), and you've got a fairly obnoxious and secure system by default (again, if behind a router). Here's the official Redmond line on the Vista firewall: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../firewall.mspx RnR, you may have specific reason(s) that you'd want to disable the native VF and, if so, I'd imagine that ZA and the other usual suspects are out there that will be compatible with Vista. Given that more is learned about the new OS every day, I reserve the right to be completely wrong and or FOS. But that's my opinion at the moment....... Stew Stew, I asked at the risk of starting a flame by the NON regulars (not wanting one of course and that the regulars here know better). I am really not asking for the best firewall but rather what people use with Vista. I have read today about Comodo 3 and another firewall I never heard of that works with Vista. I suppose ZA works with Vista tho having just dumped it, I'm a little reluctant to return to it when I go to Vista but if I have to, I guess I will. BTW, I am behind a router but I just want to be sure I'm getting 2 way protection (inbound and outbound). I'm using an old dell "g" router that works fine for my wireless home network but I'm not sure how well it protects me in either direction. I suppose I could disable my software firewall and test my router/pc at Shields Up but I'm not sure how accurate their results are but I suppose it would at least make me aware of my vunerability with or without my software firewall. Thanks again Stew for your advice and efforts earlier !! |
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On Dec 7, 10:56 am, RnR wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 07:49:35 -0600, "S.Lewis" wrote: "RnR" wrote in message news Just wondering what you guys are using as your 3rd party firewall on Vista (excluding Vista's own) ? Does it behave nicely with Vista? Alright. At the risk of being flamed, I'm only going to offer the opinion that a 3rd party firewall isn't needed - especially if you're behind a router. The firewall in Vista (in my limited experience so far) is more aggressive and apparent than the passive (incoming) firewall in WinXP. Couple that with the already legendary Vista UAC controls (if left enabled), and you've got a fairly obnoxious and secure system by default (again, if behind a router). Here's the official Redmond line on the Vista firewall: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...features/detai... RnR, you may have specific reason(s) that you'd want to disable the native VF and, if so, I'd imagine that ZA and the other usual suspects are out there that will be compatible with Vista. Given that more is learned about the new OS every day, I reserve the right to be completely wrong and or FOS. But that's my opinion at the moment....... Stew Stew, I asked at the risk of starting a flame by the NON regulars (not wanting one of course and that the regulars here know better). I am really not asking for the best firewall but rather what people use with Vista. I have read today about Comodo 3 and another firewall I never heard of that works with Vista. I suppose ZA works with Vista tho having just dumped it, I'm a little reluctant to return to it when I go to Vista but if I have to, I guess I will. BTW, I am behind a router but I just want to be sure I'm getting 2 way protection (inbound and outbound). I'm using an old dell "g" router that works fine for my wireless home network but I'm not sure how well it protects me in either direction. I suppose I could disable my software firewall and test my router/pc at Shields Up but I'm not sure how accurate their results are but I suppose it would at least make me aware of my vunerability with or without my software firewall. Thanks again Stew for your advice and efforts earlier !! - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - RNR, I use Kaspersky's firewall on my vista machine as I am on the go an therefore arent always behind a good router. It is working fine for me. |
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"RnR" wrote in message news Just wondering what you guys are using as your 3rd party firewall on Vista (excluding Vista's own) ? Does it behave nicely with Vista? Speaking from experience, Zone Alarm Pro does not, and according to Zone Alarm, will not be configured to run under Vista. Naturally, just two months before I got my new Inspiron 530, I shelled out about fifty bucks for a two-year renewal of my ZA Pro subscription. The free edition of Zone Alarm does work just fine with Vista. |
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:29:58 -0800 (PST), Mangler
wrote: On Dec 7, 10:56 am, RnR wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 07:49:35 -0600, "S.Lewis" wrote: "RnR" wrote in message news Just wondering what you guys are using as your 3rd party firewall on Vista (excluding Vista's own) ? Does it behave nicely with Vista? Alright. At the risk of being flamed, I'm only going to offer the opinion that a 3rd party firewall isn't needed - especially if you're behind a router. The firewall in Vista (in my limited experience so far) is more aggressive and apparent than the passive (incoming) firewall in WinXP. Couple that with the already legendary Vista UAC controls (if left enabled), and you've got a fairly obnoxious and secure system by default (again, if behind a router). Here's the official Redmond line on the Vista firewall: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...features/detai... RnR, you may have specific reason(s) that you'd want to disable the native VF and, if so, I'd imagine that ZA and the other usual suspects are out there that will be compatible with Vista. Given that more is learned about the new OS every day, I reserve the right to be completely wrong and or FOS. But that's my opinion at the moment....... Stew Stew, I asked at the risk of starting a flame by the NON regulars (not wanting one of course and that the regulars here know better). I am really not asking for the best firewall but rather what people use with Vista. I have read today about Comodo 3 and another firewall I never heard of that works with Vista. I suppose ZA works with Vista tho having just dumped it, I'm a little reluctant to return to it when I go to Vista but if I have to, I guess I will. BTW, I am behind a router but I just want to be sure I'm getting 2 way protection (inbound and outbound). I'm using an old dell "g" router that works fine for my wireless home network but I'm not sure how well it protects me in either direction. I suppose I could disable my software firewall and test my router/pc at Shields Up but I'm not sure how accurate their results are but I suppose it would at least make me aware of my vunerability with or without my software firewall. Thanks again Stew for your advice and efforts earlier !! - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - RNR, I use Kaspersky's firewall on my vista machine as I am on the go an therefore arent always behind a good router. It is working fine for me. Thanks Mangler for that info. Many years ago I used Kaspersky but I forgot the reason I dropped them but I will consider that when I go to Vista. I know the Kaspersky engine is (not sure if it is the firewall or antivirus tho) is used in some others. Thank you Mangler for your help ! |
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 11:03:35 -0800, "Kevin" wrote:
"RnR" wrote in message news Just wondering what you guys are using as your 3rd party firewall on Vista (excluding Vista's own) ? Does it behave nicely with Vista? Speaking from experience, Zone Alarm Pro does not, and according to Zone Alarm, will not be configured to run under Vista. Naturally, just two months before I got my new Inspiron 530, I shelled out about fifty bucks for a two-year renewal of my ZA Pro subscription. The free edition of Zone Alarm does work just fine with Vista. Sorry to hear that Kevin ($50) but thank you for helping me !! |
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On Dec 7, 4:50 am, RnR wrote:
Just wondering what you guys are using as your 3rd party firewall on Vista (excluding Vista's own) ? Does it behave nicely with Vista? I can confirm that the free edition of Zone Alarm runs well on Vista. (I barely tried it though.) With XP I used Kasperski and felt that it was among the best solutions. But: 1. You dont want to run two at the same time, of course. Thus the 3rd party is a replacement - is it better, for Vista in particular? Even when they get it to run under Vista, this is a rather different system now (Vista is), and Id really want a native security application, one that is written for it. I dont really know how much this matters, but I would certainly be concerned with a firewall written for a very different security model that is then made run under this one. 2. If you are behind the router, I would readily agree that you dont need anything other than Vista's firewall. My solution would be to use Vista's own until a Vista-native firewall is available. (Or, until it is certain that the ones that are 'made to run' under it actually do their job well.) |
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 09:56:21 -0600, RnR wrote:
Stew, I asked at the risk of starting a flame by the NON regulars (not wanting one of course and that the regulars here know better). I am really not asking for the best firewall but rather what people use with Vista. I have read today about Comodo 3 and another firewall I never heard of that works with Vista. I suppose ZA works with Vista tho having just dumped it, I'm a little reluctant to return to it when I go to Vista but if I have to, I guess I will. BTW, I am behind a router but I just want to be sure I'm getting 2 way protection (inbound and outbound). I'm using an old dell "g" router that works fine for my wireless home network but I'm not sure how well it protects me in either direction. I suppose I could disable my software firewall and test my router/pc at Shields Up but I'm not sure how accurate their results are but I suppose it would at least make me aware of my vunerability with or without my software firewall. Thanks again Stew for your advice and efforts earlier !! I use COMODO 2.4 with XP and am now using COMODO 3. You will get several popup's (information only) when you first run an application and the FW learns about how the program operates. Also the FW will study the current programs on your machine after install and set up its database. I had Spyware Doctor on one machine and did a uninstall with COMODO running and had 43 warnings which required action from the user. In order to do the uninstall I needed to allow the warnings. I then went to the control panel where there is a waiting your review area where I needed to remove the approval of the warnings. In a way this is good and bad. The good is that you are given a second chance to approve/disapprove a change. The bad is it is time consuming. OOPs Thank god this didn't post the first time. On WinXP Pro system. COMODO 3 prevented the posting but gave no warning. The only warning came from AGENT when I was shutting it off. Tried posting to other news groups and no luck. Removed COMODO 3 and reinstalled COMODO 2.4 and things appear to be normal. (What ever normal is under Windows) With all the problems I am having with Vista I think it time to remove COMODO 3 from that machine. Art |
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