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Old July 29th 06, 03:50 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
Phat Bytestard
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:49:47 +0200, "Folkert Rienstra"
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And no, bad sectors showing up would also be viewed as early drive death.


You're an idiot ALL platters have bad sectors and all drives
automatically detect and map them out, and there is even extra space
on the drive so that such mappings do not even decrease capacity
unless the amount is too great.
  #72  
Old July 29th 06, 03:52 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:57:22 +0200, "Folkert Rienstra"
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"Joe S" wrote in message
Are there any utilities which can burn-in a new hard drive before I
start to use it?


Bart's Disktool, www.nu2.nu/utils

Platform: Dos (and Windows9x)
This is a generic harddisk testing tool. It works on ALL disks that are controlled by the BIOS, ATAPI/SCSI/RAID. It accesses the
drive by INT13 and INT13 extensions. You can customize how the tests are run, in what order, how many loops...

You can also run it in "batch" mode, for burn-in testing.



WOW. The first correct thing have posted in the entire thread.
  #73  
Old July 29th 06, 03:53 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:51:41 -0500, David Maynard
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Joe S wrote:

Are there any utilities which can burn-in a new hard drive before I
start to use it?


If you mean 'test' it you can use the manufacturer's diagnostics.


yep. Don't expect to keep your data with the test that would
actually produce results.

But unless you're planning to pop it in an oven, or in some other way
elevate the temperature, you're not doing a "burn in."


Excellent and true point.
  #74  
Old July 29th 06, 03:54 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
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On 29 Jul 2006 01:08:18 GMT, Arno Wagner Gave us:

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Bazzer Smith wrote:

"Joe S" wrote in message
...
Are there any utilities which can burn-in a new hard drive before I
start to use it?




By burning it in you will be using it :O)
Just stick it on as a slave, copy some big files to it into a folder, then
copy the folder
repeatedly, delete the lot then do it again untill your paranoia subsides
:O)


I think this is good advice ;-)


Although quite labor intensive.
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Old July 29th 06, 04:15 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
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Phat Bytestard wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:57:22 +0200, "Folkert Rienstra"
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Bart's Disktool, www.nu2.nu/utils

Platform: Dos (and Windows9x)
This is a generic harddisk testing tool. It works on ALL disks
that are controlled by the BIOS, ATAPI/SCSI/RAID. It accesses the
drive by INT13 and INT13 extensions. You can customize how the
tests are run, in what order, how many loops...

You can also run it in "batch" mode, for burn-in testing.



WOW. The first correct thing have posted in the entire thread.


FIRST CORRECT THING HAVE POSTED!







  #76  
Old July 29th 06, 05:23 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Phat Bytestard wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:51:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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Osiris wrote
Fill it with data, then copy it off again. Personally I
never trust a new drive for at least a few weeks, only
mirrored data goes onto it.


I extend the mistrust to the disks entire llifespan...
It's volatile memory...
backup procedures, redundancy etc..

Are there any drives that one could submit to diagnostics ALL the
time, that transmit "condition data" to the mobo/OS constantly ?


Yep, that's what SMART is about.

IDE controllers, a circuit on the HD (not the MOBO interface) has
already done this with some manufacturers even before SMART came out.


Nonsense. HDDs can sore disgnostice, but they are servers, i.e.
they do not push diagnostic data. It has to be polled.

Arno
  #77  
Old July 29th 06, 05:26 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
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Default Utility to burn in new hard drive?

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Phat Bytestard wrote:
On 29 Jul 2006 01:08:18 GMT, Arno Wagner Gave us:


In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Bazzer Smith wrote:

"Joe S" wrote in message
...
Are there any utilities which can burn-in a new hard drive before I
start to use it?




By burning it in you will be using it :O)
Just stick it on as a slave, copy some big files to it into a folder, then
copy the folder
repeatedly, delete the lot then do it again untill your paranoia subsides
:O)


I think this is good advice ;-)


Although quite labor intensive.


With decent scripting, not at all. Don't know whether the "market
leader" has finally added a shell that allows to do that to its
product....


Arno
  #78  
Old July 29th 06, 06:10 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
Phat Bytestard
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:15:15 GMT, John Doe
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Phat Bytestard wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:57:22 +0200, "Folkert Rienstra"
Gave us:


Bart's Disktool, www.nu2.nu/utils

Platform: Dos (and Windows9x)
This is a generic harddisk testing tool. It works on ALL disks
that are controlled by the BIOS, ATAPI/SCSI/RAID. It accesses the
drive by INT13 and INT13 extensions. You can customize how the
tests are run, in what order, how many loops...

You can also run it in "batch" mode, for burn-in testing.



WOW. The first correct thing have posted in the entire thread.


FIRST CORRECT THING HAVE POSTED!


I must have been typing so fast that my thought didn't make it into
the sentence. Between thing and have should be the word "you".

Although that should be obvious to anyone with an IQ above 45.
  #79  
Old July 29th 06, 06:47 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
Folkert Rienstra
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"Phat Bytestard" wrote in message
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:15:15 GMT, John Doe
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Phat Bytestard wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:57:22 +0200, "Folkert Rienstra"
Gave us:


Bart's Disktool, www.nu2.nu/utils

Platform: Dos (and Windows9x)
This is a generic harddisk testing tool. It works on ALL disks
that are controlled by the BIOS, ATAPI/SCSI/RAID. It accesses the
drive by INT13 and INT13 extensions. You can customize how the
tests are run, in what order, how many loops...

You can also run it in "batch" mode, for burn-in testing.


WOW. The first correct thing have posted in the entire thread.


FIRST CORRECT THING HAVE POSTED!


I must have been typing so fast that my thought didn't make it into
the sentence.


Your live in a nut(t)shell.

Between thing and have should be the word "you".


Although that should be obvious to anyone with an IQ above 45.


Pity you obviously never made it into that category.
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Old July 29th 06, 06:52 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical
Rod Speed
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Default Utility to burn in new hard drive?

Phat Bytestard wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Osiris wrote


Fill it with data, then copy it off again. Personally
I never trust a new drive for at least a few weeks,
only mirrored data goes onto it.


I extend the mistrust to the disks entire llifespan...
It's volatile memory...
backup procedures, redundancy etc..


Are there any drives that one could submit to diagnostics ALL the
time, that transmit "condition data" to the mobo/OS constantly ?


Yep, that's what SMART is about.


IDE controllers, a circuit on the HD (not the MOBO interface) has
already done this with some manufacturers even before SMART came out.


Yep, only a few tho. Almost all do it in SMART now.

And thats much more convenient too, no need to pull the
drive out to get at the jumpers, start it using smartctl etc.


 




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