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  #41  
Old May 22nd 09, 08:39 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Lost 1500 gigs - Thanks Seagate!

In article , DevilsPGD
says...

So to sum up, **** all has changed so what was the point again?


Seagate is sending a bad message... That's significant.


Or they are saying that their drives are so good that a 3 year warranty
is sufficient.


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  #42  
Old May 24th 09, 12:11 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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  #43  
Old May 24th 09, 12:48 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Lost 1500 gigs - Thanks Seagate!

In message Conor
was claimed to have wrote:

In article , DevilsPGD
says...

So to sum up, **** all has changed so what was the point again?


Seagate is sending a bad message... That's significant.


Or they are saying that their drives are so good that a 3 year warranty
is sufficient.


No -- Companies are about profitability, you don't make a change that
customers will potentially perceive as negative unless it's profitable.

If there weren't any drives dying in the 3-5 year range, there would be
no harm in leaving the default warranty longer.
  #44  
Old May 25th 09, 08:39 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
[email protected]
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Default Lost 1500 gigs - Thanks Seagate!

On May 17, 11:03*pm, (GMAN) wrote:
In article , wrote:



My 1.5 TB harddrive just blew after about 4 months... a few days after
filling it too.... Thanks Seagate! [Seagate Barracuda (ST31500341AS)
7200.11 SATA 3.0Gb/s 1.5TB] ... It's my own damn fault for going for
the best gig/$ deal I guess... and backing up that much stuff was not
an option financially... *I always expected it to fail but I had hoped
it would last a year or two at least, by then I could update to raid 1
or buy a 3tb drive or something...


Anyways.... this piece of crap is still under warranty, and they will
send me another piece of crap to replace it... but I really don't want
to go through this again, I will never trust this brand now that I've
been assraped... I'm thinking the only way I can use the new piece of
crap their going to send me is if it is in a RAID configuration of
some sort.... RAID 5 looks nice but I'm sooooo not ready to fork out
another $300ish for two more 1.5 TB drives


What are my options - with redundancy and scalability in mind? *Can I
just start out with some kind of 2 disk mirroring configuration and
then later add the third disk (converting to raid 5 here) and the
fourth and fifth in the furture? I guess I'm asking if you can convert
go from a two disk x 1.5 TB raid 1 setup to a three disk x 1.5 TB raid
5 setup without reformatting...


....my brain hurts, thanks Seagate


Suggestions welcomed


OMFG!!!!! * It has only been 6+ months that Seagate has had a firmware update
to prevent this from happening and you are blaming them for not notifying you?

I have two of those same drives and applied the fix day one!

I also have *750 GB unit.

BTW, the data is still there and they offer a free recovery for you if you
contact Seagate!!!!!!!!!! That is of course if you didnt freak out like a baby
and immediately reformat the drive.- Hide quoted text -

Your data wasnt worth an extra $119 ????? WTF?

It begs the question... What if the original poster panicked and lost
his data, called Seagate, and then came here to whine about it. Maybe
that is why it was his first post under the alias.


GMAN: In the future you might want to read a bit more before you stick
your foot in your mouth so deeply.

If you had actually read the links you provided you would see that the
firmware issues affected "A SMALL NUMBER" of these drives. Mine was
not one of them - it was shipped with the latest firmware. Don't
assume. And no: the data was not valuable enough to justify paying
twice as much, the hope was that the drive would last more then 6
months. If you had read this thread fully you would have seen that
too.

This drive has a lot more problems then just firmware. After your foot
removal I suggest you educate yourself more, maybe check out the
specific reviews for this specific 1.5 TB Seagate model (not the
750gig model you have) on Newegg.com

Goodluck.











  #45  
Old May 25th 09, 05:50 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
GMAN[_10_]
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Default Lost 1500 gigs - Thanks Seagate!

In article , wrote:
On May 17, 11:03=A0pm, (GMAN) wrote:
In article =

..com, wrote:



My 1.5 TB harddrive just blew after about 4 months... a few days after
filling it too.... Thanks Seagate! [Seagate Barracuda (ST31500341AS)
7200.11 SATA 3.0Gb/s 1.5TB] ... It's my own damn fault for going for
the best gig/$ deal I guess... and backing up that much stuff was not
an option financially... =A0I always expected it to fail but I had hoped
it would last a year or two at least, by then I could update to raid 1
or buy a 3tb drive or something...


Anyways.... this piece of crap is still under warranty, and they will
send me another piece of crap to replace it... but I really don't want
to go through this again, I will never trust this brand now that I've
been assraped... I'm thinking the only way I can use the new piece of
crap their going to send me is if it is in a RAID configuration of
some sort.... RAID 5 looks nice but I'm sooooo not ready to fork out
another $300ish for two more 1.5 TB drives


What are my options - with redundancy and scalability in mind? =A0Can I
just start out with some kind of 2 disk mirroring configuration and
then later add the third disk (converting to raid 5 here) and the
fourth and fifth in the furture? I guess I'm asking if you can convert
go from a two disk x 1.5 TB raid 1 setup to a three disk x 1.5 TB raid
5 setup without reformatting...


....my brain hurts, thanks Seagate


Suggestions welcomed


OMFG!!!!! =A0 It has only been 6+ months that Seagate has had a firmware =

update
to prevent this from happening and you are blaming them for not notifying=

you?

I have two of those same drives and applied the fix day one!

I also have =A0750 GB unit.

BTW, the data is still there and they offer a free recovery for you if yo=

u
contact Seagate!!!!!!!!!! That is of course if you didnt freak out like a=

baby
and immediately reformat the drive.- Hide quoted text -

Your data wasnt worth an extra $119 ????? WTF?

It begs the question... What if the original poster panicked and lost
his data, called Seagate, and then came here to whine about it. Maybe
that is why it was his first post under the alias.


GMAN: In the future you might want to read a bit more before you stick
your foot in your mouth so deeply.

If you had actually read the links you provided you would see that the
firmware issues affected "A SMALL NUMBER" of these drives. Mine was
not one of them - it was shipped with the latest firmware. Don't
assume. And no: the data was not valuable enough to justify paying
twice as much, the hope was that the drive would last more then 6
months. If you had read this thread fully you would have seen that
too.

This drive has a lot more problems then just firmware. After your foot
removal I suggest you educate yourself more, maybe check out the
specific reviews for this specific 1.5 TB Seagate model (not the
750gig model you have) on Newegg.com

Goodluck.











FU!!! If you talk this way towards everyone who tries to help, you deserved to
lose your data!!!!!


BTW, I have both a 750GB, and a pair of the same 1.5TB retail Seagate drives
you own.
  #46  
Old May 25th 09, 06:25 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Lost 1500 gigs - Thanks Seagate!

dennispublic live.com wrote:

On May 17, 11:03’pm, winnie... pooh.com (GMAN) wrote:
In article cd6612d4-8e0c-4999-9953-1a0bf9c80...
r34g2000vbi.googlegroups

.com, dennispub... live.com wrote:



My 1.5 TB harddrive just blew after about 4 months... a few days
after filling it too.... Thanks Seagate! [Seagate Barracuda
(ST31500341AS) 7200.11 SATA 3.0Gb/s 1.5TB] ... It's my own damn
fault for going for the best gig/$ deal I guess... and backing
up that much stuff was not an option financially... ’I always
expected it to fail but I had hoped it would last a year or two
at least, by then I could update to raid 1 or buy a 3tb drive or
something...


Anyways.... this piece of crap is still under warranty, and they
will send me another piece of crap to replace it... but I really
don't want to go through this again, I will never trust this
brand now that I've been assraped... I'm thinking the only way I
can use the new piece of crap their going to send me is if it is
in a RAID configuration of some sort.... RAID 5 looks nice but
I'm sooooo not ready to fork out another $300ish for two more
1.5 TB drives


What are my options - with redundancy and scalability in mind?
’Can I just start out with some kind of 2 disk mirroring
configuration and then later add the third disk (converting to
raid 5 here) and the fourth and fifth in the furture? I guess
I'm asking if you can convert go from a two disk x 1.5 TB raid 1
setup to a three disk x 1.5 TB raid 5 setup without
reformatting...


....my brain hurts, thanks Seagate


Suggestions welcomed


OMFG!!!!! ’ It has only been 6+ months that Seagate has had a
firmware

update
to prevent this from happening and you are blaming them for not
notifying

you?

I have two of those same drives and applied the fix day one!

I also have ’750 GB unit.

BTW, the data is still there and they offer a free recovery for
you if yo

u
contact Seagate!!!!!!!!!! That is of course if you didnt freak
out like a

baby
and immediately reformat the drive.- Hide quoted text -

Your data wasnt worth an extra $119 ????? WTF?

It begs the question... What if the original poster panicked and
lost his data, called Seagate, and then came here to whine about
it. Maybe that is why it was his first post under the alias.


GMAN: In the future you might want to read a bit more before you
stick your foot in your mouth so deeply.


You have messed up the quoting, Dennis.

If you had actually read the links you provided you would see that
the firmware issues affected "A SMALL NUMBER" of these drives.


Wrong... The firmware corrected a problem that effected a small
number of those drives.

Mine was not one of them - it was shipped with the latest
firmware. Don't assume.


Do not tell lies.

the hope was that the drive would last more then 6 months.


Again... Any drive can fail at any time.

This drive has a lot more problems then just firmware.


Says someone who does not know enough to back up his data. Too much
coincidence, Dennis, you should have at least mentioned the firmware
thing in your original whine.

Again... Your complaint about the drive might be valid (it looks
less valid now than it did before), but your complaint about losing
data is just whining since you should always have a backup.







Goodluck.













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  #47  
Old May 25th 09, 07:25 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Mark F[_2_]
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Default Lost 1500 gigs - Thanks Seagate!

On Mon, 25 May 2009 00:39:20 -0700 (PDT), wrote
in part:

{to someone else In the future you might want to read a bit more before you stick
your foot in your mouth so deeply.

If you had actually read the links you provided you would see that the
firmware issues affected "A SMALL NUMBER" of these drives. Mine was
not one of them - it was shipped with the latest firmware. Don't
assume. And no: the data was not valuable enough to justify paying
twice as much, the hope was that the drive would last more then 6
months. If you had read this thread fully you would have seen that
too.

I think ALL of the drives that were made under certain manufacturing
parameters were POTENTIALLY affected due to a firmware problem.

"A SMALL NUMBER of these drives" refers to the fact that only a small
number of the potentially affected drives encountered the problem.

The reason that only a small number of drives were affected was that
the drive had to be powered down when the error count was in a small
range [perhaps a small range modulo 256].

Since most disks have well under 10 errors of a particular
class or a huge number of errors of that class,
the chances of powering things down when having 254 [or whatever
modulo 256] errors is less than 1/2%. For example, if you shutdown
when there 250 errors there would be no problem.
  #48  
Old May 29th 09, 09:56 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Lost 1500 gigs - Thanks Seagate!

On Sun, 17 May 2009 10:54:33 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

My 1.5 TB harddrive just blew after about 4 months... a few days after
filling it too.... Thanks Seagate! [Seagate Barracuda (ST31500341AS)
7200.11 SATA 3.0Gb/s 1.5TB] ... It's my own damn fault for going for
the best gig/$ deal I guess... and backing up that much stuff was not
an option financially... I always expected it to fail but I had hoped
it would last a year or two at least, by then I could update to raid 1
or buy a 3tb drive or something...

Anyways.... this piece of crap is still under warranty, and they will
send me another piece of crap to replace it... but I really don't want
to go through this again, I will never trust this brand now that I've
been assraped... I'm thinking the only way I can use the new piece of
crap their going to send me is if it is in a RAID configuration of
some sort.... RAID 5 looks nice but I'm sooooo not ready to fork out
another $300ish for two more 1.5 TB drives

What are my options - with redundancy and scalability in mind? Can I
just start out with some kind of 2 disk mirroring configuration and
then later add the third disk (converting to raid 5 here) and the
fourth and fifth in the furture? I guess I'm asking if you can convert
go from a two disk x 1.5 TB raid 1 setup to a three disk x 1.5 TB raid
5 setup without reformatting...

...my brain hurts, thanks Seagate

Suggestions welcomed


That kid is so upset that he didnt get the response he wanted he is
off crying somewhere. Look the advice is as follows

1. Sad but **** happens. You are not the first and wont be the last.

2. No matter the cost you MUST back up if you care about your data.

3. While I am not a lover of seagate, any and I mean any HD can go bad
no matter what brand it is.

4. The data as was said before is still there UNLESS you formatted
already.

5. If you cant afford to back up your data then you cant afford to
have the data mean anything to you!!!!

Did you understand the last sentence???

If you have 1.5 TB of data and cannot afford to by another 1.5 TB
drive, then here is what you do u get all the other little 300 and 200
GB drives and use THEM to back up your data so that when the 1.5 TB
dies you will NOT have to come here and feel like your questions are
not being answered. If u listen to what I said here anyone will have
to agree these are very good responses to your problem. They may be a
little late but is that really our fault here on the group???
Best wishes...
  #49  
Old May 29th 09, 10:31 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
SteveH
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Default Lost 1500 gigs - Thanks Seagate!

Syfo-Dyas wrote:
1. Sad but **** happens. You are not the first and wont be the last.

2. No matter the cost you MUST back up if you care about your data.

3. While I am not a lover of seagate, any and I mean any HD can go bad
no matter what brand it is.

4. The data as was said before is still there UNLESS you formatted
already.

5. If you cant afford to back up your data then you cant afford to
have the data mean anything to you!!!!

Did you understand the last sentence???

If you have 1.5 TB of data and cannot afford to by another 1.5 TB
drive, then here is what you do u get all the other little 300 and 200
GB drives and use THEM to back up your data so that when the 1.5 TB
dies you will NOT have to come here and feel like your questions are
not being answered. If u listen to what I said here anyone will have
to agree these are very good responses to your problem. They may be a
little late but is that really our fault here on the group???
Best wishes...


Can any of you people snip?
And why the feck did you feel the need to repost your tripe again 12
days after the original post?

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  #50  
Old May 30th 09, 01:04 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Syfo-Dyas[_2_]
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Default Lost 1500 gigs - Thanks Seagate!

On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:31:51 GMT, "SteveH"
wrote:

Syfo-Dyas wrote:
1. Sad but **** happens. You are not the first and wont be the last.

2. No matter the cost you MUST back up if you care about your data.

3. While I am not a lover of seagate, any and I mean any HD can go bad
no matter what brand it is.

4. The data as was said before is still there UNLESS you formatted
already.

5. If you cant afford to back up your data then you cant afford to
have the data mean anything to you!!!!

Did you understand the last sentence???

If you have 1.5 TB of data and cannot afford to by another 1.5 TB
drive, then here is what you do u get all the other little 300 and 200
GB drives and use THEM to back up your data so that when the 1.5 TB
dies you will NOT have to come here and feel like your questions are
not being answered. If u listen to what I said here anyone will have
to agree these are very good responses to your problem. They may be a
little late but is that really our fault here on the group???
Best wishes...


Can any of you people snip?
And why the feck did you feel the need to repost your tripe again 12
days after the original post?


Why did u feel the need to respond to it since it was not meant for u
anyway?
 




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