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Old August 31st 04, 05:17 PM
M. B.
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Default Do I want 5700 Ultra or 5900XT card?

Before I get a lot of "get an ATI card instead" replies, I want you to
undertstand that I am building an "identical" system for my brother, who
lives 2,500 miles away from me and doesn't know much about computers. I
want his system to be as close to mine as possible, so that in case he has
problems after I leave him, I can "guide" him on stuff over the phone...

In any case, I have an 5900 Ultra card with 256 megs. He doesn't want to
spend more then US $200 for a video card, so I am trying to decide between
getting him a 5700 Ultra or an 5900XT card instead. He will use the
machine via an ANALOG (he has a 20 inch Sony CRT) connector and his kids do
like to play games...like Doom 3....EA Sport games.....Medal of Honor....).
He will also use the computer for VIDEO editing. The system will run
Windows XP Pro SP2 , have 1 gig of RAM and a 3.2 Prescott.

I also want to know if we should go for the 128 meg or a 256 meg model? I
know that mod manufactorers use "cheaper" memory for 256 meg cards, so I am
wondering if the 256 meg option will actually "slow down" the system.

In addition, I see that most of the 5900XT cards have a "core speed" of 390
Mhz. What about this one that claims 430Mhz?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...143-014&depa=1

I also doubt that my brother will be doing much overclocking as he needs
stability.

Thanks for any and ALL opinions.


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Old August 31st 04, 06:45 PM
Eric
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"M. B." wrote in message
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In any case, I have an 5900 Ultra card with 256 megs. He doesn't want

to
spend more then US $200 for a video card, so I am trying to decide between
getting him a 5700 Ultra or an 5900XT card instead.


I also want to know if we should go for the 128 meg or a 256 meg model?

I
know that mod manufactorers use "cheaper" memory for 256 meg cards, so I

am
wondering if the 256 meg option will actually "slow down" the system.

In addition, I see that most of the 5900XT cards have a "core speed" of

390
Mhz. What about this one that claims 430Mhz?


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...143-014&depa=1



The 5900xt is a better card -- hands down (over the 5700 ultra). Check out
all the doom3 benchmarks. If you can get a 256 mb one -- get it. But I
doubt it will be less than $200.00.

Some manufacturers overclock their cards out of the box -- so what you see
with that card is entirely probable. I run my 5900xt at 425/763 (using
MSI's own overclocking utility - -but the default on my card is 390/700).

If you want to compare 5900XTs, go he

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...xt/default.asp

That said, if you can wait a month, you would be better off with the 6600GT
(or the 6800LE -- if you can get that OEM part).

Both the 6600 GT and/or the 6800LE should be about $200.00.

Personally, I would wait for either the 6600 GT or the 6800 LE. Both are
later generation for about the same money as the 5900XT -- and faster.


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Old August 31st 04, 08:02 PM
Raj
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I would go for the FX5900xt it benches faster than the 5700 ultra, plus you
get 256bit memory
"M. B." wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Before I get a lot of "get an ATI card instead" replies, I want you to
undertstand that I am building an "identical" system for my brother, who
lives 2,500 miles away from me and doesn't know much about computers. I
want his system to be as close to mine as possible, so that in case he has
problems after I leave him, I can "guide" him on stuff over the phone...

In any case, I have an 5900 Ultra card with 256 megs. He doesn't want
to spend more then US $200 for a video card, so I am trying to decide
between getting him a 5700 Ultra or an 5900XT card instead. He will
use the machine via an ANALOG (he has a 20 inch Sony CRT) connector and
his kids do like to play games...like Doom 3....EA Sport games.....Medal
of Honor....). He will also use the computer for VIDEO editing. The
system will run Windows XP Pro SP2 , have 1 gig of RAM and a 3.2 Prescott.

I also want to know if we should go for the 128 meg or a 256 meg model?
I know that mod manufactorers use "cheaper" memory for 256 meg cards, so I
am wondering if the 256 meg option will actually "slow down" the system.

In addition, I see that most of the 5900XT cards have a "core speed" of
390 Mhz. What about this one that claims 430Mhz?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...143-014&depa=1

I also doubt that my brother will be doing much overclocking as he needs
stability.

Thanks for any and ALL opinions.



  #4  
Old August 31st 04, 08:37 PM
wgd
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In article [email protected],
says...
Before I get a lot of "get an ATI card instead" replies, I want you to
undertstand that I am building an "identical" system for my brother, who
lives 2,500 miles away from me and doesn't know much about computers. I
want his system to be as close to mine as possible, so that in case he has
problems after I leave him, I can "guide" him on stuff over the phone...

In any case, I have an 5900 Ultra card with 256 megs. He doesn't want to
spend more then US $200 for a video card, so I am trying to decide between
getting him a 5700 Ultra or an 5900XT card instead. He will use the
machine via an ANALOG (he has a 20 inch Sony CRT) connector and his kids do
like to play games...like Doom 3....EA Sport games.....Medal of Honor....).
He will also use the computer for VIDEO editing. The system will run
Windows XP Pro SP2 , have 1 gig of RAM and a 3.2 Prescott.

I also want to know if we should go for the 128 meg or a 256 meg model? I
know that mod manufactorers use "cheaper" memory for 256 meg cards, so I am
wondering if the 256 meg option will actually "slow down" the system.

In addition, I see that most of the 5900XT cards have a "core speed" of 390
Mhz. What about this one that claims 430Mhz?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...143-014&depa=1

I also doubt that my brother will be doing much overclocking as he needs
stability.


Without question the FX5900XT is the card to buy. With a 3.2 GHz
Prescott and 1GB ram the system should play Doom 3 and other games very
well. If you can get the extra 128MB on the card cheaply I'd go for it,
otherwise not.

Any FX5900XT can be overclocked to standard 5900 speeds (400MHz). Some
will go much higher. If you want maximum stability run at 400/700
(GPU,memory).


  #5  
Old August 31st 04, 08:46 PM
Mr Daisy Marshall
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Yep
Go for the 5900XT
I have a Sparkle 5900XT
Its clocked to 470/900 with no probs at all.
"M. B." wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Before I get a lot of "get an ATI card instead" replies, I want you to
undertstand that I am building an "identical" system for my brother, who
lives 2,500 miles away from me and doesn't know much about computers. I
want his system to be as close to mine as possible, so that in case he has
problems after I leave him, I can "guide" him on stuff over the phone...

In any case, I have an 5900 Ultra card with 256 megs. He doesn't want

to
spend more then US $200 for a video card, so I am trying to decide between
getting him a 5700 Ultra or an 5900XT card instead. He will use the
machine via an ANALOG (he has a 20 inch Sony CRT) connector and his kids

do
like to play games...like Doom 3....EA Sport games.....Medal of

Honor....).
He will also use the computer for VIDEO editing. The system will run
Windows XP Pro SP2 , have 1 gig of RAM and a 3.2 Prescott.

I also want to know if we should go for the 128 meg or a 256 meg model?

I
know that mod manufactorers use "cheaper" memory for 256 meg cards, so I

am
wondering if the 256 meg option will actually "slow down" the system.

In addition, I see that most of the 5900XT cards have a "core speed" of

390
Mhz. What about this one that claims 430Mhz?


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...143-014&depa=1

I also doubt that my brother will be doing much overclocking as he needs
stability.

Thanks for any and ALL opinions.




  #6  
Old September 1st 04, 12:24 AM
DaveW
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In real world use the 5900XT is considerably faster than the 5700 Ultra.
This is due entirely to the 5900 XT's use of a 256 MB memory bandwidth bus,
while the 5700 Ultra uses the much slower 128 MB memory bus.

DaveW


"M. B." wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Before I get a lot of "get an ATI card instead" replies, I want you to
undertstand that I am building an "identical" system for my brother, who
lives 2,500 miles away from me and doesn't know much about computers. I
want his system to be as close to mine as possible, so that in case he has
problems after I leave him, I can "guide" him on stuff over the phone...

In any case, I have an 5900 Ultra card with 256 megs. He doesn't want
to spend more then US $200 for a video card, so I am trying to decide
between getting him a 5700 Ultra or an 5900XT card instead. He will
use the machine via an ANALOG (he has a 20 inch Sony CRT) connector and
his kids do like to play games...like Doom 3....EA Sport games.....Medal
of Honor....). He will also use the computer for VIDEO editing. The
system will run Windows XP Pro SP2 , have 1 gig of RAM and a 3.2 Prescott.

I also want to know if we should go for the 128 meg or a 256 meg model?
I know that mod manufactorers use "cheaper" memory for 256 meg cards, so I
am wondering if the 256 meg option will actually "slow down" the system.

In addition, I see that most of the 5900XT cards have a "core speed" of
390 Mhz. What about this one that claims 430Mhz?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...143-014&depa=1

I also doubt that my brother will be doing much overclocking as he needs
stability.

Thanks for any and ALL opinions.



  #7  
Old September 1st 04, 02:55 AM
Raj
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Hey DaveW its the 256bit memory on the 128 meg or 256 meg config on the fx
5900xt that makes it faster.
"DaveW" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s53...
In real world use the 5900XT is considerably faster than the 5700 Ultra.
This is due entirely to the 5900 XT's use of a 256 MB memory bandwidth
bus, while the 5700 Ultra uses the much slower 128 MB memory bus.

DaveW


"M. B." wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Before I get a lot of "get an ATI card instead" replies, I want you to
undertstand that I am building an "identical" system for my brother, who
lives 2,500 miles away from me and doesn't know much about computers. I
want his system to be as close to mine as possible, so that in case he
has problems after I leave him, I can "guide" him on stuff over the
phone...

In any case, I have an 5900 Ultra card with 256 megs. He doesn't want
to spend more then US $200 for a video card, so I am trying to decide
between getting him a 5700 Ultra or an 5900XT card instead. He will
use the machine via an ANALOG (he has a 20 inch Sony CRT) connector and
his kids do like to play games...like Doom 3....EA Sport games.....Medal
of Honor....). He will also use the computer for VIDEO editing. The
system will run Windows XP Pro SP2 , have 1 gig of RAM and a 3.2
Prescott.

I also want to know if we should go for the 128 meg or a 256 meg model? I
know that mod manufactorers use "cheaper" memory for 256 meg cards, so I
am wondering if the 256 meg option will actually "slow down" the system.

In addition, I see that most of the 5900XT cards have a "core speed" of
390 Mhz. What about this one that claims 430Mhz?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...143-014&depa=1

I also doubt that my brother will be doing much overclocking as he needs
stability.

Thanks for any and ALL opinions.





 




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