I don't get it? Much higher spec PC and its WORSE performance wise?

Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is an obvious question but I am totally stumped. Recently an
old PC was retired due to becoming virused and the hard drive crashing
(luckily everything backed up on external hard drive).

I had a new PC built by in town computer specialists. They had the spec of
my old machine and came back delightedly telling me that everything in the
spec of the old machine they could improve - faster and MORE RAM, much
bigger hard drive, etc etc.

So excitedly I get the thing built, yet for some reason the system is just
nowhere near as good, and I can't figure out why?

I do ALOT of photo editing in photoshop and also music editing in Cubase.
With my old system I was able to open a large number of high res (several
meg) photo files, edit them and save them, whilst having my external drive
plugged in to back up the data, maybe have some of my music playing at the
same time or actually have photographs open of my group whilst editing the
music etc etc.

THIS machine - I am lucky if I can open FIVE photos at once without the
system hanging - any music files seem to turn into screeching noise and dont
play at the same time - if I edit a photo I get the little blue bar that
slides across the screen and the photo then takes a few seconds to render
(left to right in rows till complete) then saving it takes ages again with
the little blue bar marking progress.

Its impossible to have cubase run any audio and edit, so I am unable to that
at the moment.

But the biggest is that the external hard drive when plugged in via USB
renders all system useless except if I want to pull files back onto my
machine hard drive to work on, and then it takes ages to trasfer files
(despite this machine being USB 2).

So while I havent any experience here, can someone just tell me how its
possible to have a better spec machine that runs far far worse than the
other machine? I truly am puzzled.

Mr.Will

"Mr.Will" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is an obvious question but I am totally stumped. Recently an
old PC was retired due to becoming virused and the hard drive crashing
(luckily everything backed up on external hard drive).

I had a new PC built by in town computer specialists. They had the spec of
my old machine and came back delightedly telling me that everything in the
spec of the old machine they could improve - faster and MORE RAM, much
bigger hard drive, etc etc.

So excitedly I get the thing built, yet for some reason the system is just
nowhere near as good, and I can't figure out why?

I do ALOT of photo editing in photoshop and also music editing in Cubase.
With my old system I was able to open a large number of high res (several
meg) photo files, edit them and save them, whilst having my external drive
plugged in to back up the data, maybe have some of my music playing at the
same time or actually have photographs open of my group whilst editing the
music etc etc.

THIS machine - I am lucky if I can open FIVE photos at once without the
system hanging - any music files seem to turn into screeching noise and
dont
play at the same time - if I edit a photo I get the little blue bar that
slides across the screen and the photo then takes a few seconds to render
(left to right in rows till complete) then saving it takes ages again with
the little blue bar marking progress.

Its impossible to have cubase run any audio and edit, so I am unable to
that
at the moment.

But the biggest is that the external hard drive when plugged in via USB
renders all system useless except if I want to pull files back onto my
machine hard drive to work on, and then it takes ages to trasfer files
(despite this machine being USB 2).

So while I havent any experience here, can someone just tell me how its
possible to have a better spec machine that runs far far worse than the
other machine? I truly am puzzled.

Mr.Will

Let me guess . . . you upgraded from Windows 98 to Windows XP or Windows
Vista? Or, you upgraded from XP to Vista? -Dave

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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is an obvious question but I am totally stumped. Recently
an
old PC was retired due to becoming virused and the hard drive crashing
(luckily everything backed up on external hard drive).

I had a new PC built by in town computer specialists. They had the spec
of
my old machine and came back delightedly telling me that everything in
the
spec of the old machine they could improve - faster and MORE RAM, much
bigger hard drive, etc etc.

So excitedly I get the thing built, yet for some reason the system is
just
nowhere near as good, and I can't figure out why?

I do ALOT of photo editing in photoshop and also music editing in
Cubase.
With my old system I was able to open a large number of high res
(several
meg) photo files, edit them and save them, whilst having my external
drive
plugged in to back up the data, maybe have some of my music playing at
the
same time or actually have photographs open of my group whilst editing
the
music etc etc.

THIS machine - I am lucky if I can open FIVE photos at once without the
system hanging - any music files seem to turn into screeching noise and
dont
play at the same time - if I edit a photo I get the little blue bar that
slides across the screen and the photo then takes a few seconds to
render
(left to right in rows till complete) then saving it takes ages again
with
the little blue bar marking progress.

Its impossible to have cubase run any audio and edit, so I am unable to
that
at the moment.

But the biggest is that the external hard drive when plugged in via USB
renders all system useless except if I want to pull files back onto my
machine hard drive to work on, and then it takes ages to trasfer files
(despite this machine being USB 2).

So while I havent any experience here, can someone just tell me how its
possible to have a better spec machine that runs far far worse than the
other machine? I truly am puzzled.

Mr.Will

Let me guess . . . you upgraded from Windows 98 to Windows XP or Windows
Vista? Or, you upgraded from XP to Vista? -Dave



Hi Dave,

No - I kept all the same software and OS from before - Windows XP.
As an aside is there any resource online that can help? One of my thoughts
is I want to take the machine back to where I got it built and tell them
"look I need to work on photos therefore put XXXX parts in this machine"?
Im just confused and wanting to see how parts fit together etc in this.

Mr.Will

On Feb 3, 2:10 pm, "Mr.Will" wrote:
[...]
THIS machine - I am lucky if I can open FIVE photos at once without the
system hanging...
[...]

That is enough reason right there to take it back to the people who
built it -- and show them. Tell them how many photos your old system
will open. Maybe you have a bad stick of ram. Ask them to re-test your
box.

Hi Dave,

No - I kept all the same software and OS from before - Windows XP.
As an aside is there any resource online that can help? One of my thoughts
is I want to take the machine back to where I got it built and tell them
"look I need to work on photos therefore put XXXX parts in this machine"?
Im just confused and wanting to see how parts fit together etc in this.

Mr.Will




Uhhhh . . . you did have to reinstall all your software, RIGHT? -Dave

"Mr.Will" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is an obvious question but I am totally stumped. Recently an
old PC was retired due to becoming virused and the hard drive crashing
(luckily everything backed up on external hard drive).

I had a new PC built by in town computer specialists. They had the spec of
my old machine and came back delightedly telling me that everything in the
spec of the old machine they could improve - faster and MORE RAM, much
bigger hard drive, etc etc.

So excitedly I get the thing built, yet for some reason the system is just
nowhere near as good, and I can't figure out why?

I do ALOT of photo editing in photoshop and also music editing in Cubase.
With my old system I was able to open a large number of high res (several
meg) photo files, edit them and save them, whilst having my external drive
plugged in to back up the data, maybe have some of my music playing at the
same time or actually have photographs open of my group whilst editing the
music etc etc.

THIS machine - I am lucky if I can open FIVE photos at once without the
system hanging - any music files seem to turn into screeching noise and
dont
play at the same time - if I edit a photo I get the little blue bar that
slides across the screen and the photo then takes a few seconds to render
(left to right in rows till complete) then saving it takes ages again with
the little blue bar marking progress.

Its impossible to have cubase run any audio and edit, so I am unable to
that
at the moment.

But the biggest is that the external hard drive when plugged in via USB
renders all system useless except if I want to pull files back onto my
machine hard drive to work on, and then it takes ages to trasfer files
(despite this machine being USB 2).

So while I havent any experience here, can someone just tell me how its
possible to have a better spec machine that runs far far worse than the
other machine? I truly am puzzled.

Mr.Will

If your old PC did what you wanted, could you not have had the viruses
removed and XP and your apps reinastalled?
Out of interest, did you tell the system builders the sort of resource
hungry apps that you run?
And do you have the spec of the new PC to hand?

SteveH

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"Mr.Will" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is an obvious question but I am totally stumped. Recently
an
old PC was retired due to becoming virused and the hard drive crashing
(luckily everything backed up on external hard drive).

I had a new PC built by in town computer specialists. They had the spec
of
my old machine and came back delightedly telling me that everything in
the
spec of the old machine they could improve - faster and MORE RAM, much
bigger hard drive, etc etc.

So excitedly I get the thing built, yet for some reason the system is
just
nowhere near as good, and I can't figure out why?

I do ALOT of photo editing in photoshop and also music editing in Cubase.
With my old system I was able to open a large number of high res (several
meg) photo files, edit them and save them, whilst having my external
drive
plugged in to back up the data, maybe have some of my music playing at
the
same time or actually have photographs open of my group whilst editing
the
music etc etc.

THIS machine - I am lucky if I can open FIVE photos at once without the
system hanging - any music files seem to turn into screeching noise and
dont
play at the same time - if I edit a photo I get the little blue bar that
slides across the screen and the photo then takes a few seconds to render
(left to right in rows till complete) then saving it takes ages again
with
the little blue bar marking progress.

Its impossible to have cubase run any audio and edit, so I am unable to
that
at the moment.

But the biggest is that the external hard drive when plugged in via USB
renders all system useless except if I want to pull files back onto my
machine hard drive to work on, and then it takes ages to trasfer files
(despite this machine being USB 2).

So while I havent any experience here, can someone just tell me how its
possible to have a better spec machine that runs far far worse than the
other machine? I truly am puzzled.

Mr.Will

If your old PC did what you wanted, could you not have had the viruses
removed and XP and your apps reinastalled?
Out of interest, did you tell the system builders the sort of resource
hungry apps that you run?

And do you have the spec of the new PC to hand?


Now, that's a good question. I'm surprised that no one else asked it.
Better still; also, let's have the spec. of the old one.

Sylvain.

SteveH

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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is an obvious question but I am totally stumped. Recently
an
old PC was retired due to becoming virused and the hard drive crashing
(luckily everything backed up on external hard drive).

I had a new PC built by in town computer specialists. They had the spec
of
my old machine and came back delightedly telling me that everything in
the
spec of the old machine they could improve - faster and MORE RAM, much
bigger hard drive, etc etc.

So excitedly I get the thing built, yet for some reason the system is
just
nowhere near as good, and I can't figure out why?

I do ALOT of photo editing in photoshop and also music editing in Cubase.
With my old system I was able to open a large number of high res (several
meg) photo files, edit them and save them, whilst having my external
drive
plugged in to back up the data, maybe have some of my music playing at
the
same time or actually have photographs open of my group whilst editing
the
music etc etc.

THIS machine - I am lucky if I can open FIVE photos at once without the
system hanging - any music files seem to turn into screeching noise and
dont
play at the same time - if I edit a photo I get the little blue bar that
slides across the screen and the photo then takes a few seconds to render
(left to right in rows till complete) then saving it takes ages again
with
the little blue bar marking progress.

Its impossible to have cubase run any audio and edit, so I am unable to
that
at the moment.

But the biggest is that the external hard drive when plugged in via USB
renders all system useless except if I want to pull files back onto my
machine hard drive to work on, and then it takes ages to trasfer files
(despite this machine being USB 2).

So while I havent any experience here, can someone just tell me how its
possible to have a better spec machine that runs far far worse than the
other machine? I truly am puzzled.

Mr.Will

If your old PC did what you wanted, could you not have had the viruses
removed and XP and your apps reinastalled?
Out of interest, did you tell the system builders the sort of resource
hungry apps that you run?

And do you have the spec of the new PC to hand?


Now, that's a good question. I'm surprised that no one else asked it.

It's the first thing that occurred to me, but I pass up posts that
have the character of, "My car won't start, what could be wrong?".

-- Bob Day

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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is an obvious question but I am totally stumped.
Recently
an
old PC was retired due to becoming virused and the hard drive crashing
(luckily everything backed up on external hard drive).

I had a new PC built by in town computer specialists. They had the
spec
of
my old machine and came back delightedly telling me that everything in
the
spec of the old machine they could improve - faster and MORE RAM, much
bigger hard drive, etc etc.

So excitedly I get the thing built, yet for some reason the system is
just
nowhere near as good, and I can't figure out why?

I do ALOT of photo editing in photoshop and also music editing in
Cubase.
With my old system I was able to open a large number of high res
(several
meg) photo files, edit them and save them, whilst having my external
drive
plugged in to back up the data, maybe have some of my music playing at
the
same time or actually have photographs open of my group whilst editing
the
music etc etc.

THIS machine - I am lucky if I can open FIVE photos at once without
the
system hanging - any music files seem to turn into screeching noise
and
dont
play at the same time - if I edit a photo I get the little blue bar
that
slides across the screen and the photo then takes a few seconds to
render
(left to right in rows till complete) then saving it takes ages again
with
the little blue bar marking progress.

Its impossible to have cubase run any audio and edit, so I am unable
to
that
at the moment.

But the biggest is that the external hard drive when plugged in via
USB
renders all system useless except if I want to pull files back onto my
machine hard drive to work on, and then it takes ages to trasfer files
(despite this machine being USB 2).

So while I havent any experience here, can someone just tell me how
its
possible to have a better spec machine that runs far far worse than
the
other machine? I truly am puzzled.

Mr.Will

If your old PC did what you wanted, could you not have had the viruses
removed and XP and your apps reinastalled?
Out of interest, did you tell the system builders the sort of resource
hungry apps that you run?

And do you have the spec of the new PC to hand?


Now, that's a good question. I'm surprised that no one else asked it.

It's the first thing that occurred to me, but I pass up posts that
have the character of, "My car won't start, what could be wrong?".

-- Bob Day


Ah right, you are one of THOSE types mr.Day.
I get you.

Mr.Will

Sounds a great deal like the boys at the shop did
not do a fresh OS install, and rather tried to migrate
your OS and apps to the new machine ... and
failed. Also, I'm willing to bet that your old machine
had a fairly good video card, and your new machine
has a more modern, but weaker video card. Without
knowing the parts in each machine, I can only
speculate. If you list the parts for me, I can quickly
tell you the problem.

johns