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Old July 17th 08, 10:22 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
Skybuck Flying[_2_]
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Default Hardware damaged again.

Hmmm surprisingly the antec 900, with it's tiny space-issue's is dual sli
certified.

Even nvidia's sli-zone can't be trusted

Buyer beware that's me ! OH MY GOD.

Bye,
Skybuck.


  #22  
Old July 17th 08, 10:53 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
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"Craig Sutton" wrote in message
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"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
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Hello,

It seems the hardware of my pc is damaged again.

Probably the motherboard.


Prove it


Memtest first try hang at 9:52 a very simply program on a boot disk.

Memtest second try proceeded by weird seconds ticking by.

I guess because the pc was warmed up that it functioned better... so I
decided to boot into windows and continue without playing games etc... so
far I have been running multiple hours and no crash so far.

Even boots failed multiple times already, usb controller not detecting
stuff.

pci.sys errors...

memory corruption error.

pfn_list corrupt errors..

time seconds ticking away weird...

Sound oddness during crash.

These are signs of hardware failure me thinks.

The following happened as well:

Suddenly slow frame rate in call of duty for a minute, followed by a
hang/freeze.

Sometimes the system crashes during a game.


So what what does eventviewer say? was the cauase of the crash?


All kinds of bull****.

Forget about event viewer it won't tell you much... it's just bull****.

Bye,
Skybuck.


  #23  
Old July 17th 08, 11:05 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
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Default Hardware damaged again.

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Yep. The higher they fly, the harder they crash. Have you considered
that a simpler machine might be more reliable? If you're planning on
long life, you might consider one of the Unix/Linux based PC's. I've
still got systems running up to 15 year old operating systems.

Wouldn't do any good, this **** could wreck an abacus.
--
SteveH


  #24  
Old July 17th 08, 11:06 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
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Skybuck Flying wrote:
Hello,

It seems the hardware of my pc is damaged again.

Probably the motherboard.

But most likely the idiot user.
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Old July 17th 08, 11:43 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
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"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
b.home.nl...
"Craig Sutton" wrote in message
...

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
b.home.nl...
Hello,

It seems the hardware of my pc is damaged again.

Probably the motherboard.


Prove it


Memtest first try hang at 9:52 a very simply program on a boot disk.

Memtest second try proceeded by weird seconds ticking by.


So did you do the obvious and replace the ram?

oh and isn't it time for Moronbucks2009 dream pc?


  #26  
Old July 17th 08, 12:07 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
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No because on the second run the ram was fine.

Bye,
Skybuck.


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Old July 17th 08, 12:08 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
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Default Hardware damaged again.

Or a sign of things to come.

The heat problem is getting pretty real =D

Bye,
Skybuck.


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Old July 17th 08, 12:20 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
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Skybuck Flying wrote:

It seems the hardware of my pc is damaged again.
Probably the motherboard.
Sometimes the system crashes during a game.
I cleaned the pc hoping that it would solve the problem but nope.

There are some other symptoms:

1. Memory corruption/crashes.

2. The time runs a few seconds faster and then stops and then continues
again in xp 64.

3. The time skips a second in memtest.


Measure all the voltages with a digital multimeter, including the CPU,
PCI-E, AGP, and memory bus voltages. Don't rely on software
readings. Those last four readings require finding where they can be
taken, but the CPU voltage is on some of the pins of the transistors
near the CPU, while the other voltages are near their respective
sockets. Also look for electrolytic capacitors (plastic-wrapped
cylinders) that are bulging, which can cause the ripple voltage (AC)
to go way up and lead to instability.

Run several different memory diagnostics, each overnight: MemTest86,
MemTest+, and Gold Memory. Unless your memory modules Stop any
overclocking until you fix the problem.

Possible causes for damaged hardwa

1. Overheat in summer.


Fat chance, unless a fan in the PSU or on the graphics card or CPU
slowed way down. Otherwise run the computer with its side cover
removed, which will virtually eliminate overheating form other causes.

2. Short-circuit because of plastic stickers patching wholes which came
loose.


Whole what? What kind of plastic? If you're referring to insulating
washers that go around the mobo mounting holes, you want them to be
either cardboard (fiber), Mylar, or nylon because other materials are
too easily pierced by screws. And be sure that the mobo is supported
at every one of its holes, even if you have to insert nylon standoffs
that don't attach to anything in the case (you may have to cut the
bottoms of the standoffs). Corners should also be supported within
about 1", but if they're not, stick press-on rubber bumpers to the
case to prevent the mobo from touching.

4. Maybe power surges because of stuck power button or switching on/off
surround sound set.


The front power button has nothing to do with surges because all it
does is send a low-voltage, low-current signal to the mobo, which in
turn sends a similar signal to the PSU. Any rear switch on the PSU
won't cause damage, either, and your audio system shouldn't bother the
computer unless the computer's PSU is awful and doesn't contain an EMI
filter, which blocks lower voltage surges that MOVs ignore.

5. Maybe just bad hardware not ment for heavy use, who knows


It's all meant for continuous use, but some PSUs and mobos are made
with low quality brand electrolytic capacitors -- see www.badcaps.net
for FAQs and forums.

  #29  
Old July 17th 08, 12:29 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
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Default Hardware damaged again.

Actually good thing you started this thread.

There is something else going on with my pc which is kinda weird:

When I start the nvidia gpu monitoring program the temperatures are
reported... but not the voltages and such.

All those say: "not reported".

I am not sure if that's normal ?

I didn't feel like mentioning this... but maybe it's not normal.. and maybe
this is an indication that something is already broken or so ?

Bye,
Skybuck.


  #30  
Old July 17th 08, 12:37 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,sci.electronics.design
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Default Hardware damaged again.

To answer your question about the plastic stuff I used:

I patched the holes on the side of the case from the inside with sticky
plastic.

The sticky plastic got sucked loose by the fans and the plastic dropped down
onto the motherboard probably causing a short circuit... and two crashes.

Maybe this caused damage...

Just regular see-through sticky plastic used... from those round rollers.

I still have other holes patched though... but there the plastic dont come
loose... it's also held up by the hd cables and also because of fans blowing
against it.

Those patched holes improve the airflow for sure.

So I was experimenting with patching the other holes... which went wrong as
described above

Bye,
Skybuck.


 




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