Why are mainboard boxes already opened?

Mark A wrote:
"Nigel Brooks" wrote in message
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More likely, a box is unsealed because it was a return


No. Asus does not shrink-wrap or otherwise seal their MB boxes.

Most likely the MBs get shipped from China (yes I know Asus is
headquartered in Taiwan) in bulk, and they put in boxes once the get
to the USA. This saves on shipping costs.

Very unlikely indeed.

"Mark A" wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message
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Considering the fact a mainboard is a very complex part of a
computer that you would want to know is factory fresh, how come
mainboard boxes are not factory sealed?

If that's because configuring has to be done after the factory,
how come the company that configures the thing does not seal the
box?

Thank you.

They are not "opened". They were never shrink wrapped to begin
with.

There's only so much meaning you can put into a subject line. Maybe
you can be my subject line writer.

Wal-Mart has started a new program to get suppliers to reduce the
amount of packaging for products they sell. They have estimated
that it will save them tens of Billions of dollars per year, a
significant portion of which will be reduction in energy usage for
shipping and the energy needed to make the packaging. Maybe you
didn't know it, but plastic (including shrink-wrap) comes from
oil.

But in fact, more and more things from Wal-Mart and all other stores
are coming in bubble packaging which is plastic.

In many European countries, when you buy a loaf of bread, it comes
with no packaging at all.

So you just catch the loaf with your filthy hands? How about all of
the other people that have fingered your bread, no telling where
their fingers were before then.

Your phobia about packaging is just a cultural bias.

Reasonable care has something to do with knowing about disease.

If you deal with a reputable manufacturer and a reputable
retailer, you have nothing to worry about.

In my big city, we have very large stores that sell things you've
probably never even dreamed of. It's a trade-off I can live with.
Besides, I'm not talking about most things. Most things, electronics
and tools for example, are coming in bubble packaging (which happens
to be plastic BTW). I have noticed the local Wal-Mart does have some
cheap tools on the bottom shelf without packaging, but that's the
really cheap stuff. Maybe you are more comfortable with really cheap
stuff.

By the way, why are you trying to turn this into a fight? If you
don't like folks from the United States, turn on headers and avoid
reading them.









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In article ,
says...
Depending on the stores, some have the gear to reseal the boxes so you think
you are getting brand new stock. Some don't bother because you get your
warranty anyhow. Then we have the stores that have a couple of techs out the
back and when you take a suspect CPU in for warranty they will take the
matching board out of a new box for testing purposes and when finished they
will pop it back in the box and put it back on the shelf to be sold. It also
depends what country you are in as to if you have a thorough Customs service
or not.
Bottom line is who gives a rats arse if the box is open or not? Being sealed
proves nothing simply because you have no idea just who sealed it.


"old man" wrote in message
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Strange, all my mobo boxes have been supplied sealed.
You dont really think Customs are going to open every box in a container
do
you?
(unless you're in France, which youre not)

"Venom" wrote in message
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"John Doe" wrote in message
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Considering the fact a mainboard is a very complex part of a
computer that you would want to know is factory fresh, how come
mainboard boxes are not factory sealed?

If that's because configuring has to be done after the factory, how
come the company that configures the thing does not seal the box?

Thank you.


Mobo boxes are factory sealed. It is Customs who open them to take a
quick
peek inside the box.







Some computer stores open the packages and put their own sticker on them
for warranty purposes.

"John Doe" wrote in message
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There's only so much meaning you can put into a subject line. Maybe
you can be my subject line writer.


How much does it pay? But you could have posted:
"Why are mainboard boxes not shrink-wrapped?"

But in fact, more and more things from Wal-Mart and all other stores
are coming in bubble packaging which is plastic.


Check this out:
http://money.cnn.com/services/ticker...____DAF017.htm

Reasonable care has something to do with knowing about disease.

Do you think you will catch a disease from a MB box that is not
shrink-wrapped?

In my big city, we have very large stores that sell things you've
probably never even dreamed of. It's a trade-off I can live with.
Besides, I'm not talking about most things. Most things, electronics
and tools for example, are coming in bubble packaging (which happens
to be plastic BTW). I have noticed the local Wal-Mart does have some
cheap tools on the bottom shelf without packaging, but that's the
really cheap stuff. Maybe you are more comfortable with really cheap
stuff.

By the way, why are you trying to turn this into a fight? If you
don't like folks from the United States, turn on headers and avoid
reading them.

Very big city? I live in very big US city also, but newegg.com has just
about everything I need, and the Asus MB that I got from them was not
shrink-wrapped and it worked perfectly.

I am from the US and I like my posts (and most others from the US) quite
well.

"Mark A" wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message
...
There's only so much meaning you can put into a subject line.
Maybe you can be my subject line writer.


How much does it pay?

You don't qualify.

But you could have posted:
"Why are mainboard boxes not shrink-wrapped?"

But that's not what I meant.

But in fact, more and more things from Wal-Mart and all other
stores are coming in bubble packaging which is plastic.


Check this out:
http://money.cnn.com/services/ticker...609221350PR_NE
WS_USPR_____DAF017.htm

I guess Wal-Mart means everything to you.

Reasonable care has something to do with knowing about disease.

Do you think you will catch a disease from a MB box that is not
shrink-wrapped?

You were off on a tangent talking about unwrapped bread. I tend to
follow the subject. Maybe I'm too easy.

In my big city, we have very large stores that sell things you've
probably never even dreamed of. It's a trade-off I can live with.
Besides, I'm not talking about most things. Most things,
electronics and tools for example, are coming in bubble packaging
(which happens to be plastic BTW). I have noticed the local
Wal-Mart does have some cheap tools on the bottom shelf without
packaging, but that's the really cheap stuff. Maybe you are more
comfortable with really cheap stuff.

By the way, why are you trying to turn this into a fight? If you
don't like folks from the United States, turn on headers and
avoid reading them.

Very big city? I live in very big US city also,

So you are just a troll.

but newegg.com has just
about everything I need, and the Asus MB that I got from them was
not shrink-wrapped and it worked perfectly.

That's hardly science.

I'm just guessing, but do you quote only one level in your replies?













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On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:00:49 -0500, Nigel Brooks wrote:

"Venom" wrote in message
...
Depending on the stores, some have the gear to reseal the boxes so you
think
you are getting brand new stock. Some don't bother because you get your
warranty anyhow. Then we have the stores that have a couple of techs out
the
back and when you take a suspect CPU in for warranty they will take the
matching board out of a new box for testing purposes and when finished
they
will pop it back in the box and put it back on the shelf to be sold. It
also
depends what country you are in as to if you have a thorough Customs
service
or not.
Bottom line is who gives a rats arse if the box is open or not? Being
sealed
proves nothing simply because you have no idea just who sealed it.




Thoroughness has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not a Customs
Service decides to inspect an individual box.

Customs examinations are mostly based on intelligence. A container of
motherboards or other merchandise from an established vendor is not going to
be inspected. A sample might be taken from the container to determine
whether or not the sample is as described for duty purposes. But it is
certainly not the case that Customs opens every single item that enters a
Customs territory.

More likely, a box is unsealed because it was a return

On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 19:04:54 -0600, Mark A wrote:


In many European countries, when you buy a loaf of bread, it comes with no
packaging at all. Your phobia about packaging is just a cultural bias.

Who wants to buy a loaf of bread that has been exposed to air born germs?
Small bakeries here don't wrap the bread either but they should, IMO.

"Garrot" wrote in message
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Who wants to buy a loaf of bread that has been exposed to air born germs?
Small bakeries here don't wrap the bread either but they should, IMO.

Actually, a lot of grocery stores with in-house bakeries sell bread that is
not in sealed packages. Sometimes it is behind a glass case, but it is not
in a "sealed" package. Neither are most of the fruits and vegetables.

As we found out recently, organic spinach that is packaged in sealed plastic
can be deadly.

Garrot wrote:

On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 19:04:54 -0600, Mark A wrote:

In many European countries, when you buy a loaf of bread, it
comes with no packaging at all. Your phobia about packaging is
just a cultural bias.

Who wants to buy a loaf of bread that has been exposed to air born
germs? Small bakeries here don't wrap the bread either but they
should, IMO.

And bread tends to get stale quickly when exposed.

I've read two or three different comments on the Internet recently
about keeping plastic items (one was about grass trimmer line) in a
container with a small amount of water to keep it pliable. It's an
interesting concept to me, the idea of keeping plastic items humid
to help keep them from degrading.

No, that doesn't have anything to do with the subject either. I
think someone opened the box and swapped the part.

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 03:20:12 GMT, John Doe
wrote:

Garrot wrote:


I've read two or three different comments on the Internet recently
about keeping plastic items (one was about grass trimmer line) in a
container with a small amount of water to keep it pliable. It's an
interesting concept to me, the idea of keeping plastic items humid
to help keep them from degrading.

Well, don't just do everything that you read about without checking
first. That might work for "some" plastics, but I happen to know that
Nylon degrades significantly if allowed to absorb moisture.... so any
Nylon gears or other load carrying parts could be weakened
significantly.... I don't know what grass trimmer line is made of, but
if it's Nylon, you wouldn't want it to absorb any moisture.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/