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Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 + Opteron 185 // Possible?
Hello out there,
I plan to upgrade my existing system; Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 Athlon 64 3500+ 2gig DDR400 Infineon (DDR400) with AMDs best 939-based Opteron, the 185 (2x2,6ghz, 1000mhz HT). The mainboard itself has the nforce3 ultra 250gb chipset. The official Gigabyte website states that the Opteron 185 is not supported by the mainboard, though the FX-60 is supported. As far as I found out by myself, the FX-60 and the Opteron 185 are the same processors with the difference of an unlocked overclocking capability within the FX-60, but not within the Opteron 185. The official compatibility list also states that the latest supported processor would be the Opteron 170 with the latest BIOS revision (F13) for this specific mainboard. According to some other threads I found on the internet, the mainboard "Gigabyte K8 NS-939 Ultra", which is almost identical in construction to the "K8 NSNXP-939" (besides the dual power system DPS), also does NOT support the opteron 185, but many people on the net wrote about their experience that it works well anyway. Therefore I conclude that my mainboard will also work with the Opteron 185 and want to give it a try. But nevertheless, I am cautios. If someone ever tried this before, please tell me if it worked well for you, since I dont want to spend that much money for just a blank screen... Thanks, Michael |
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Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 + Opteron 185 // Possible?
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:18:19 +0000, neonxgenesis wrote:
Hello out there, I plan to upgrade my existing system; Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 Athlon 64 3500+ 2gig DDR400 Infineon (DDR400) with AMDs best 939-based Opteron, the 185 (2x2,6ghz, 1000mhz HT). The mainboard itself has the nforce3 ultra 250gb chipset. The official Gigabyte website states that the Opteron 185 is not supported by the mainboard, though the FX-60 is supported. As far as I found out by myself, the FX-60 and the Opteron 185 are the same processors with the difference of an unlocked overclocking capability within the FX-60, but not within the Opteron 185. The official compatibility list also states that the latest supported processor would be the Opteron 170 with the latest BIOS revision (F13) for this specific mainboard. According to some other threads I found on the internet, the mainboard "Gigabyte K8 NS-939 Ultra", which is almost identical in construction to the "K8 NSNXP-939" (besides the dual power system DPS), also does NOT support the opteron 185, but many people on the net wrote about their experience that it works well anyway. Therefore I conclude that my mainboard will also work with the Opteron 185 and want to give it a try. But nevertheless, I am cautios. If someone ever tried this before, please tell me if it worked well for you, since I dont want to spend that much money for just a blank screen... Thanks, Michael It's not a direct answer but I've been considering something similar and my conclusion is that it's not really worth it. I have an MSI KN8-Neo2 Platinum with a single core 3800+ on it. The problem with the 939 pin Opterons is that they are fairly pricey relative to a modern processor. DDR RAM is also much more expensive then DDR2 RAM. I've decided to wait a few months until the Penryns come out and then replace the Motherboard and the RAM along with the processor on my single core system. Just to give you the numbers, An Opteron 185 is $245 As of the 22nd a Core2 @ 2.66GHz is $183, @3GHz $266, and a Quad core @2.4Ghz is also $266. So for practically the same price you can have either a 2.4GHz Quad Core or a 3GHz Core2 Duo. The Core2 core is about 25% faster on a clock for clock basis relative to the A64 core so there really is a big difference. On top of that Core2s are very overclockable, the A64s aren't. What's even more important is that there are 2G DDR2 DIMMs so you can put 8G on a Core2 or an AM2 but the old 939 pin parts can only take 4G. Even if you are happy with 4G there is a huge price difference between DDR and DDR2. 2G of DDR2 is $65, 2G of DDR is $99. Altogether I think it's better to spend a little more money and upgrade the motherboard too. |
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Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 + Opteron 185 // Possible?
"General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message news It's not a direct answer but I've been considering something similar and my conclusion is that it's not really worth it. I have an MSI KN8-Neo2 Platinum with a single core 3800+ on it. The problem with the 939 pin Opterons is that they are fairly pricey relative to a modern processor. DDR RAM is also much more expensive then DDR2 RAM. I've decided to wait a few months until the Penryns come out and then replace the Motherboard and the RAM along with the processor on my single core system. Just to give you the numbers, An Opteron 185 is $245 As of the 22nd a Core2 @ 2.66GHz is $183, @3GHz $266, and a Quad core @2.4Ghz is also $266. So for practically the same price you can have either a 2.4GHz Quad Core or a 3GHz Core2 Duo. The Core2 core is about 25% faster on a clock for clock basis relative to the A64 core so there really is a big difference. On top of that Core2s are very overclockable, the A64s aren't. What's even more important is that there are 2G DDR2 DIMMs so you can put 8G on a Core2 or an AM2 but the old 939 pin parts can only take 4G. Even if you are happy with 4G there is a huge price difference between DDR and DDR2. 2G of DDR2 is $65, 2G of DDR is $99. Altogether I think it's better to spend a little more money and upgrade the motherboard too. If the OP is looking to upgrade his existing s939 system then I couldn't recommend the opterons enough. They are quality chips. With price per $/£ in mind I would probably get the opteron 170 as most, but not all, will hit the same ceiling - prob around 2.8GHz on air. At the time I was building my DFI based system they flatly refused to support the Opterons but they were way the best chips. I am currently running a 4200+ @2.65GHz but am having a 170 delivered and will plonk the 4200 on ebay. Chri$ |
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Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 + Opteron 185 // Possible?
$ wrote:
"General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message news It's not a direct answer but I've been considering something similar and my conclusion is that it's not really worth it. I have an MSI KN8-Neo2 Platinum with a single core 3800+ on it. The problem with the 939 pin Opterons is that they are fairly pricey relative to a modern processor. DDR RAM is also much more expensive then DDR2 RAM. I've decided to wait a few months until the Penryns come out and then replace the Motherboard and the RAM along with the processor on my single core system. Just to give you the numbers, An Opteron 185 is $245 As of the 22nd a Core2 @ 2.66GHz is $183, @3GHz $266, and a Quad core @2.4Ghz is also $266. So for practically the same price you can have either a 2.4GHz Quad Core or a 3GHz Core2 Duo. The Core2 core is about 25% faster on a clock for clock basis relative to the A64 core so there really is a big difference. On top of that Core2s are very overclockable, the A64s aren't. What's even more important is that there are 2G DDR2 DIMMs so you can put 8G on a Core2 or an AM2 but the old 939 pin parts can only take 4G. Even if you are happy with 4G there is a huge price difference between DDR and DDR2. 2G of DDR2 is $65, 2G of DDR is $99. Altogether I think it's better to spend a little more money and upgrade the motherboard too. If the OP is looking to upgrade his existing s939 system then I couldn't recommend the opterons enough. They are quality chips. With price per $/£ in mind I would probably get the opteron 170 as most, but not all, will hit the same ceiling - prob around 2.8GHz on air. At the time I was building my DFI based system they flatly refused to support the Opterons but they were way the best chips. I am currently running a 4200+ @2.65GHz but am having a 170 delivered and will plonk the 4200 on ebay. Chri$ I second the Opteron. I'm running an Opteron 170 OC to 2.8 in Windows XP and it runs fine on air cooling. Not even hot. In Vista I can only OC to 2.5 before I start getting reboots. Another reason to stay away from Vista for now. But go for the Opteron. Bob |
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Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 + Opteron 185 // Possible?
"Bob M" wrote in message ... I second the Opteron. I'm running an Opteron 170 OC to 2.8 in Windows XP and it runs fine on air cooling. Not even hot. In Vista I can only OC to 2.5 before I start getting reboots. Another reason to stay away from Vista for now. But go for the Opteron. Bob Excellent results with the opty 170. Now running at a stable 2.75GHz, 275fsb x10 multi with 180 mem divider so mem at exactly ddr500. 1.45v. Not bad at all a 750MHz overclock on air. Love the opty's and cant recommend dfi nf4 mobo's enough! 4200+ now on ebay. The 4200+ are seriously cheap atm, £50 for oem chip new. Using an ocz 620 powerstream psu btw. Chri$ |
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