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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
... Per John Doe: I would bet that the percentage of bad cops roughly parallels the percentage of bad people. I would agree - with emphasis on "roughly". I'm guessing police work attracts a certain percentage of unsuitable people just as fire fighting attracts pyromaniacs and child care attracts pedophiles. I tend to be a little suspicious when I hear about a guy who "always wanted to be a cop". Possibly an overreaction, but it's been in my mind ever since I read about a NYC cop who became Policeman Of The Year or somesuch. The question was "Why did you become a police officer?" and the answer was "I was out of work and they were hiring." OTOH, there's Serpico who, by all accounts, always wanted to be cop and turned out to be an exceptional one. My son will be entering the NYPD Academy next month. He didn't alwyas want to be a cop but looked into it and decided that it interested him as a good career. I honestly wonder how he will fare as he is not one to put up with police abuse of citizens rights and Lord knows what happens to cops who expose the wrongdoing of other cops. |
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"PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote:
"John Doe" always.look message.header wrote "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote: John Doe wrote: In a 9-0 decision, the winner is... Privacy! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...2014.html?_r=1 There is a difference between what they are permitted to do and what they actually do. The "climate" of law enforcement has changed. Citizens are viewed as suspicious and we are treated that way. The police are supposed to protect and serve the public, they do neither. The courts have ruled that they are not obligated to protect us. Citations please... http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po...otus.html?_r=0 Because the title of the article is "Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone", you believe that it's true? In the ruling, where does it say that? In the article, according to a prior ruling "social service workers [do not have the constitutional duty] to protect a young boy from a beating by his father". And apparently that precedent was upheld. My interest is the judicial, not your personal problems with the police. You can find lots of fellow whiners on YouTube if you want to continue whining about police mistreatment. It's got to be the most whined about subject on the Internet. |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"PAS" wrote:
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote Per John Doe: I would bet that the percentage of bad cops roughly parallels the percentage of bad people. I would agree - with emphasis on "roughly". I'm guessing police work attracts a certain percentage of unsuitable people just as fire fighting attracts pyromaniacs and child care attracts pedophiles. I tend to be a little suspicious when I hear about a guy who "always wanted to be a cop". Possibly an overreaction, but it's been in my mind ever since I read about a NYC cop who became Policeman Of The Year or somesuch. The question was "Why did you become a police officer?" and the answer was "I was out of work and they were hiring." OTOH, there's Serpico who, by all accounts, always wanted to be cop and turned out to be an exceptional one. My son will be entering the NYPD Academy next month. He didn't alwyas want to be a cop but looked into it and decided that it interested him as a good career. I honestly wonder how he will fare as he is not one to put up with police abuse of citizens rights and Lord knows what happens to cops who expose the wrongdoing of other cops. Who says your son knows what's right and wrong? You're talking about extremely subjective judgments. All he has to do is believe that cops should get involved in every little part of everybody's lives. Because in fact that's where our country is headed. Government knows best what's good for everybody even in their most private relationships. For example... If your son feels good about stopping a father from disciplining its child, and instead he wants to exercise his own judgment about what's right for the child, he will fit in to the upcoming police force perfectly. Most police officers know better than to get involved in other people's family matters. That's why family bashing politicians have enacted laws that force police officers to arrest somebody in every domestic violence call. Most police officers don't feel good about doing that. If your son does, he'll do great, that's exactly what they're looking for. And I see no end in sight to that trend. |
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"PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote:
.... By the way... You are a girl, aren't you? |
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Per PAS:
...and Lord knows what happens to cops who expose the wrongdoing of other cops. My takeaway from reading the Wambaugh novels is the police do not *hire* misanthropes. Instead, police work tends to turn normal people into same. We have/have had two police-type people in our family: a son-in-law, who is still a cop, and my late brother who was a CID agent in 'Nam and a private investigator while working his way through college. In both I see/have seen a significantly dimmer view of human nature than most other people I know have. -- Pete Cresswell |
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Per John Doe:
Some strange troll... It was a tongue-in-cheek comment on the misspelling of "Steal". -- Pete Cresswell |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"John Doe" wrote in message
... "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote: "John Doe" always.look message.header wrote "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote: John Doe wrote: In a 9-0 decision, the winner is... Privacy! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...2014.html?_r=1 There is a difference between what they are permitted to do and what they actually do. The "climate" of law enforcement has changed. Citizens are viewed as suspicious and we are treated that way. The police are supposed to protect and serve the public, they do neither. The courts have ruled that they are not obligated to protect us. Citations please... http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po...otus.html?_r=0 Because the title of the article is "Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone", you believe that it's true? In the ruling, where does it say that? In the article, according to a prior ruling "social service workers [do not have the constitutional duty] to protect a young boy from a beating by his father". And apparently that precedent was upheld. My interest is the judicial, not your personal problems with the police. You can find lots of fellow whiners on YouTube if you want to continue whining about police mistreatment. It's got to be the most whined about subject on the Internet. I made a statement and you asked for a citation of it. What I stated was true yet you want to argue the point, just as I knew you would. There's no point in discussing anything further with you. |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
news Per PAS: ...and Lord knows what happens to cops who expose the wrongdoing of other cops. My takeaway from reading the Wambaugh novels is the police do not *hire* misanthropes. My neighbor is an nternal Affairs officer with the NYPD. He has some insight I don't have due to his experience. All kinds of people make it though the the hiring process and the NYPD is probably the toughest in the nation. Idiots and bullies still make it through. While being on the job certainly can change a person due to their having to deal with miserable excuses for humans, others go into the job with a poor attitude. I recall two guys I went to high school with. I nver had trouble with them but they were two of the biggest bullies in the school. They became cops. One of them became the subject of a huge investigation by the Mollen Commission. Instead, police work tends to turn normal people into same. We have/have had two police-type people in our family: a son-in-law, who is still a cop, and my late brother who was a CID agent in 'Nam and a private investigator while working his way through college. In both I see/have seen a significantly dimmer view of human nature than most other people I know have. -- Pete Cresswell |
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"PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote:
"John Doe" always.look message.header wrote "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote: "John Doe" always.look message.header wrote "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote: John Doe wrote: In a 9-0 decision, the winner is... Privacy! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...2014.html?_r=1 There is a difference between what they are permitted to do and what they actually do. The "climate" of law enforcement has changed. Citizens are viewed as suspicious and we are treated that way. The police are supposed to protect and serve the public, they do neither. The courts have ruled that they are not obligated to protect us. Citations please... http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po...otus.html?_r=0 Because the title of the article is "Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone", you believe that it's true? In the ruling, where does it say that? In the article, according to a prior ruling "social service workers [do not have the constitutional duty] to protect a young boy from a beating by his father". And apparently that precedent was upheld. My interest is the judicial, not your personal problems with the police. You can find lots of fellow whiners on YouTube if you want to continue whining about police mistreatment. It's got to be the most whined about subject on the Internet. I made a statement and you asked for a citation of it. Still waiting... What I stated was true According to an article title, not a court ruling. yet you want to argue the point, just as I knew you would. When you spread BS, expect to be argued with. There's no point in discussing anything further with you. You're a girl, right? Many females whine about police brutality except when it comes to the police beating up on their male counterparts... -- Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.albasani. net!rt.uk.eu.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general Subject: OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet? Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:58:56 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 40 Message-ID: lojpqd$g36$1 speranza.aioe.org References: ll5tss$lr2$2 dont-email.me loftrv$36q$1 dont-email.me logfhm$k47$1 dont-email.me loh7oq$3j0$1 speranza.aioe.org lohknv$3t0$1 dont-email.me lohpsk$ohs$1 speranza.aioe.org loi012$qmd$1 dont-email.me NNTP-Posting-Host: IDZA8Fot3QCrC0IFDB55Pw.user.speranza.aioe.org X-Complaints-To: abuse aioe.org X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:30612 alt.windows7.general:103004 |
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OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?
"One of [the bullies I went to high school with joined the police
force and] became the subject of a huge investigation by the Mollen Commission" That's a good thing, isn't it? Isn't that called "justice served". Backtracking and babbling... -- "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.etla.org! aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "PAS" ntotrr optonline.net Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general Subject: OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet? Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:06:23 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 32 Message-ID: lojq8b$hgv$1 speranza.aioe.org References: ll5tss$lr2$2 dont-email.me loftrv$36q$1 dont-email.me logfhm$k47$1 dont-email.me loh7oq$3j0$1 speranza.aioe.org lohknv$3t0$1 dont-email.me c8soq9h910cgvfgci8r2i1civi9udsculj 4ax.com lohv74$7rh$1 speranza.aioe.org p4mpq95dnnu3pnj8cm7ta2aninghqrpmqd 4ax.com NNTP-Posting-Host: IDZA8Fot3QCrC0IFDB55Pw.user.speranza.aioe.org X-Complaints-To: abuse aioe.org X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:30613 alt.windows7.general:103005 "(PeteCresswell)" x y.Invalid wrote in message news4mpq95dnnu3pnj8cm7ta2aninghqrpmqd 4ax.com... Per PAS: ...and Lord knows what happens to cops who expose the wrongdoing of other cops. My takeaway from reading the Wambaugh novels is the police do not *hire* misanthropes. My neighbor is an nternal Affairs officer with the NYPD. He has some insight I don't have due to his experience. All kinds of people make it though the the hiring process and the NYPD is probably the toughest in the nation. Idiots and bullies still make it through. While being on the job certainly can change a person due to their having to deal with miserable excuses for humans, others go into the job with a poor attitude. I recall two guys I went to high school with. I nver had trouble with them but they were two of the biggest bullies in the school. They became cops. One of them became the subject of a huge investigation by the Mollen Commission. Instead, police work tends to turn normal people into same. We have/have had two police-type people in our family: a son-in-law, who is still a cop, and my late brother who was a CID agent in 'Nam and a private investigator while working his way through college. In both I see/have seen a significantly dimmer view of human nature than most other people I know have. -- Pete Cresswell |
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