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What's the trick to get the iPad to print to the HP OfficeJetJ4680c?



 
 
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Old September 17th 14, 12:39 AM posted to comp.mobile.ipad,comp.periphs.printers
Shlomo Baumgard
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Default What's the trick to get the iPad to print to the HP OfficeJetJ4680c?

nospam wrote, on Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:50:44 -0400:

what's a kludge is what mac and windows do, with hundreds of different
printer drivers. eliminating that nonsense an advancement.


You seem to understand the Apple/Android printing model.

On the one hand, on Windows/Linux/Mac, each *printer* has its own
driver (although so-called "universal" drivers do exist), and, once
you install that specific printer-specific driver, then *any* app,
that can display the document on the computer, can then print that
document, to that printer.

As long as the printer is "on the network" (wired or wireless),
you can then print the document to that printer.

I don't fully understand Android/iOS (except that, for the most
part, they don't work), but you seem to understand their model
better than I do.

Are you saying that, on Android/iOS, there is a single printer
driver, which is the "cloud"?

And then, from the cloud, you print, wired or wirelessly, to
the printer?

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Old September 17th 14, 12:57 AM posted to comp.mobile.ipad,comp.periphs.printers
nospam
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Default What's the trick to get the iPad to print to the HP OfficeJet J4680c?

In article , Shlomo Baumgard
wrote:

what's a kludge is what mac and windows do, with hundreds of different
printer drivers. eliminating that nonsense an advancement.


You seem to understand the Apple/Android printing model.


as well as the mac/windows printing model.

On the one hand, on Windows/Linux/Mac, each *printer* has its own
driver (although so-called "universal" drivers do exist), and, once
you install that specific printer-specific driver, then *any* app,
that can display the document on the computer, can then print that
document, to that printer.


that hasn't changed. *any* app can print to *any* airprint/cloudprint
printer.

the difference is that now you don't have to install printer drivers at
all. it's a step forward.

As long as the printer is "on the network" (wired or wireless),
you can then print the document to that printer.


that's still the same, other than the wired part. dealing with wires is
old-school.

I don't fully understand Android/iOS (except that, for the most
part, they don't work), but you seem to understand their model
better than I do.


they work quite well.

Are you saying that, on Android/iOS, there is a single printer
driver, which is the "cloud"?

And then, from the cloud, you print, wired or wirelessly, to
the printer?


printers are connected wirelessly, usually on a local network.

from the app, pick print in the app and print whatever you want. no
need to worry about drivers. it 'just works'.

older printers only need an airprint/cloudprint server on the network
which can be software running on a computer or a hardware box.

it's definitely not a kludge.
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Old September 17th 14, 03:07 AM posted to comp.mobile.ipad,comp.periphs.printers
Gernot Hassenpflug
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Default What's the trick to get the iPad to print to the HP OfficeJet J4680c?

nospam writes:

In article , Shlomo Baumgard
wrote:


/../

On the one hand, on Windows/Linux/Mac, each *printer* has its own
driver (although so-called "universal" drivers do exist), and, once
you install that specific printer-specific driver, then *any* app,
that can display the document on the computer, can then print that
document, to that printer.


that hasn't changed. *any* app can print to *any* airprint/cloudprint
printer.

the difference is that now you don't have to install printer drivers
at all. it's a step forward.


It seems to me there is some driver for metadata creation, the data that
is sent to the cloud's printer driver must be in some format that can be
understood on the other side.

Also, without knowledge of the capabilities of the final printer, is one
now limited to generic capabilities that may or may not be available on
the final printer?

Or is there a two-way communication (using IPP for example) whereby a
physical printer is first interrogated for capabilities, after which the
printjob is created with capabilities made visible to the user dependent
on what the interrogation results were?

What metadata is the Android asking Apps to use for the printing? Is it
some standard data format, like PDF, or something Android-specific?

/../

from the app, pick print in the app and print whatever you want. no
need to worry about drivers. it 'just works'.

older printers only need an airprint/cloudprint server on the network
which can be software running on a computer or a hardware box.


/../

I'm very curious about this too.
Obviously, I should do some online research also, but the above are the
gist of the issues I am interested in.

Regards,
Gernot Hassenpflug
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