Cannot connect my tv to nvidia Geforce 8800 GT card

On 28 feb, 14:23, "PhxGrunge" wrote:
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On 27 feb, 23:01, (GMAN) wrote:
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, Jerry
Manner wrote:

On 27 feb, 19:15, (GMAN) wrote:
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com, Jerry Manner wrote:

On 27 feb, 16:14, (GMAN) wrote:
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On 27 feb, 02:25, "JLC" jc@nospam wrote:
"Jerry Manner" wrote in message

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....=3D

Hi

I have a new system ( windows Vista) with Nvidia Geforce 8800
GT
graphics card. The card has a tv-out to connect my tv to the
pc. I=
f I=3D

look into the software of nvidia I cannot find anything to
switch =
on
the tv mode or whatsoever. I have searched the forums at
nvidia it=
sel=3D
f
but no clear reason for this.

Has anyone experience the same and solve this problem?

I have a Windows Vista 32 bit system which I want to connect
to a
'regular' tv. From my pc I am using a s-video cable which is
conne=
cte=3D
d
to a coax cable. This cable is connected to the video input on
my =
tv.=3D

This setup has worked perfectly with my previous pc.

Any help will be appreciated.

Regards

A few months ago a person posted the same problem you are
having. It=
's =3D
the=3D3D

coax cable that is problem. Does your TV not have a s-video
input? O=
r i=3D
s i=3D3D
t
because you think you can't use an s-video cable for a long run?
I a=
dvi=3D
sed=3D3D

him to try just using the s-video cable and it worked. You can
buy l=
ong=3D

s-video cables very cheap online. Here's where I buy all my
cables a=
nd =3D
I'v=3D3D
e
never been
disappointed.http://www.buyextras.com=3D3DA0Alsomakesure=
your=3D
TV =3D3D
is
on and set to the right input before you turn on your PC, that
helps=
.. I=3D
al=3D3D
so
use a very handy program called "TV Tool" this program is much
easer=
to=3D
us=3D3D
e
than Nvidia control panel. Good Luck, JLC- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk =
ber=3D
ich=3D3D
t niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

Thank you for responding.

Is the coax cable also the reason why I don't see the option in
the
nvidia software to clone the tv or enable tv mode? The tv has a
video
input, it does not say s-video input. The input on the tv does not
have a 4 pin plug like the s-video input on my pc. Does that
matter?
Could the problem also be that I have Windows Vista?

I was under the assumption that this setup should work, because my
previous pc also had a s-video input and I used the same cable (
=3DA0=
pc --=3D

s-video cable -- coax cable -- tv) to connect to my tv and that
worked perfectly.

Regards

By coax do you mean that you are using an s-video to composite
converte=
r =3D
=3DA0and
then running that to the TV? There should be a place in the control
pan=
el =3D
of
the Nvidia card that allows you to force TV detection.

Even though a composite cable is considered a coaxial type cable,
its n=
ot =3D
what
most people consider coax, most here consider coax as the black
75ohm R=
F c=3D
able
that is uses for cable tv or antenna hookups.- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk=
be=3D
richt niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

=3D46rom the video card on the pc I have a s-video small cable( 4
pin, 2
feet) that is connected to a long coax cable (about 20 feet). This
coax cable is connected to the video input on the tv.

In the control panel of the tv I dont see any partthat allows me to
force tv detection. That is the weird thing. Someone told me that
when
I connect the s-video to the pc I should hear a sound ( meaning that
the pc has recognized the cable).

I live in the Netherlands and don't know if there is a different
between a coax cable here or where you come from. On the cable is
written coaxial cable rg-59u of bandridge.

Hope you can help me out

How are you hooking the RG59U cable to the svideo cable? via some sort
of =
RF
modulator?

RG59U cable is for antennas and cable TV hookups. It is not for
baseband v=
ideo
like composite or s-video is.

So i am ASSuming that you are hooking it up into the TV where your
antenna=

would hookup? =A0- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

I am hooking the rg59u cable to the svideo cable through a small
connector ( about 2,5 inches) on both side of this connector the
svideo and coax cable is hooked

The rg59u cable is connected to the video input channel on the tv on
the frontside of the tv. The antenna (like you call it is allways
connected to the tv on the backside. The antenna cable has a different
connector then the coax cablecable.

So I am talking about 2 different cables. The caox cable is not the
antenna I am using for the tv.

By the way this cable I have used with my previous pc to connect to my
tv and that worked perfectly.

OK, sounds like you are using an s-video to composite converter and using
a
composite cable with rca type jacks on the ends. Click on the NVIDIA
settings
icon on the bottom taskbar, then NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL then choose SETUP
MULTIPLE DISPLAYS. If the TV is still not being detected you can force it
to
detect display.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

That is the main problem. The part to force tv detection is greyed
out. I cannot use it. It seems like I don't have any cables connected
from the pc to the tv set.

The cable from the PC to the TV must be one cable and one cable only - no
adapters allowed.

The video card does not "see" the s-video connection because your inline
adapter is blocking the signal it needs to initialize it. *The video card
must "see" the TV connection thru the s-video cable to the TV direct, or you
can connect a composite cable directly from the video card to the TV, then
the video card will detect the TV.

I don't know what signal the video card looks for on the s-video, but I do
know that on composite, the video card looks for a 75 ohm termination from
the TV before it can *initialize TV out.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi Thank you for responding,

Can you explain why I can use the same cables with my previous pc to
connect to the tv set?

So what you are saying is that there shouls be only 1 whole cable from
pc to tv, and not 2 connected with each other like I have?

"Jerry Manner" wrote in message
...
On 28 feb, 14:23, "PhxGrunge" wrote:
"Jerry Manner" wrote in message

Can you explain why I can use the same cables with my previous pc to
connect to the tv set?

So what you are saying is that there shouls be only 1 whole cable from
pc to tv, and not 2 connected with each other like I have?


That should work and would be the way I connect to the TV. Might be that
your new PC card is more sensitive as far as detecting the signal from the
TV than your last card. I have seen 2 identical cards used in the same PC,
one would detect the TV, and the other won't.

Might also consider that the composite cable may be too long and losing the
signal before it gets to the PC because of length. S-video PC to TV s-video
would give the best results, but I haven't tried that, nor do I know what
the maximum length would be.

One other thing. There have been many posts about Nvidia's detecting of the
TV not working in Vista. Search this newsgroup for "TV out not working".

On 28 feb, 22:17, "PhxGrunge" wrote:
"Jerry Manner" wrote in message

...
On 28 feb, 14:23, "PhxGrunge" wrote:

"Jerry Manner" wrote in message

Can you explain why I can use the same cables with my previous pc to
connect to the tv set?
So what you are saying is that there shouls be only 1 whole cable from
pc to tv, and not 2 connected with each other like I have?

That should work and would be the way I connect to the TV. *Might be that
your new PC card is more sensitive as far as detecting the signal from the
TV than your last card. *I have seen 2 identical cards used in the same PC,
one would detect the TV, and the other won't.

Might also consider that the composite cable may be too long and losing the
signal before it gets to the PC because of length. *S-video PC to TV s-video
would give the best results, but I haven't tried that, nor do I know what
the maximum length would be.

One other thing. *There have been many posts about Nvidia's detecting of the
TV not working in Vista. *Search this newsgroup for "TV out not working"..

ok, I will do some more investigating in this newsgroup. Vista can be
indeed the problem. Thank you for the help.

Kind Regards

In article , "PhxGrunge" wrote:

"Jerry Manner" wrote in message
...
On 27 feb, 23:01, (GMAN) wrote:
In article
, Jerry
Manner wrote:





On 27 feb, 19:15, (GMAN) wrote:
In article
.=
com, Jerry Manner wrote:

On 27 feb, 16:14, (GMAN) wrote:
In article
=
ps.=3D
com, Jerry Manner wrote:

On 27 feb, 02:25, "JLC" jc@nospam wrote:
"Jerry Manner" wrote in message


=
....=3D

Hi

I have a new system ( windows Vista) with Nvidia Geforce 8800
GT
graphics card. The card has a tv-out to connect my tv to the
pc. I=
f I=3D

look into the software of nvidia I cannot find anything to
switch =
on
the tv mode or whatsoever. I have searched the forums at
nvidia it=
sel=3D
f
but no clear reason for this.

Has anyone experience the same and solve this problem?

I have a Windows Vista 32 bit system which I want to connect
to a
'regular' tv. From my pc I am using a s-video cable which is
conne=
cte=3D
d
to a coax cable. This cable is connected to the video input on
my =
tv.=3D

This setup has worked perfectly with my previous pc.

Any help will be appreciated.

Regards

A few months ago a person posted the same problem you are
having. It=
's =3D
the=3D3D

coax cable that is problem. Does your TV not have a s-video
input? O=
r i=3D
s i=3D3D
t
because you think you can't use an s-video cable for a long run?
I a=
dvi=3D
sed=3D3D

him to try just using the s-video cable and it worked. You can
buy l=
ong=3D

s-video cables very cheap online. Here's where I buy all my
cables a=
nd =3D
I'v=3D3D
e
never been
disappointed.http://www.buyextras.com=3D3DA0Alsomakesure=
your=3D
TV =3D3D
is
on and set to the right input before you turn on your PC, that
helps=
.. I=3D
al=3D3D
so
use a very handy program called "TV Tool" this program is much
easer=
to=3D
us=3D3D
e
than Nvidia control panel. Good Luck, JLC- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk =
ber=3D
ich=3D3D
t niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

Thank you for responding.

Is the coax cable also the reason why I don't see the option in
the
nvidia software to clone the tv or enable tv mode? The tv has a
video
input, it does not say s-video input. The input on the tv does not
have a 4 pin plug like the s-video input on my pc. Does that
matter?
Could the problem also be that I have Windows Vista?

I was under the assumption that this setup should work, because my
previous pc also had a s-video input and I used the same cable (
=3DA0=
pc --=3D

s-video cable -- coax cable -- tv) to connect to my tv and that
worked perfectly.

Regards

By coax do you mean that you are using an s-video to composite
converte=
r =3D
=3DA0and
then running that to the TV? There should be a place in the control
pan=
el =3D
of
the Nvidia card that allows you to force TV detection.

Even though a composite cable is considered a coaxial type cable,
its n=
ot =3D
what
most people consider coax, most here consider coax as the black
75ohm R=
F c=3D
able
that is uses for cable tv or antenna hookups.- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk=
be=3D
richt niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

=3D46rom the video card on the pc I have a s-video small cable( 4
pin, 2
feet) that is connected to a long coax cable (about 20 feet). This
coax cable is connected to the video input on the tv.

In the control panel of the tv I dont see any partthat allows me to
force tv detection. That is the weird thing. Someone told me that
when
I connect the s-video to the pc I should hear a sound ( meaning that
the pc has recognized the cable).

I live in the Netherlands and don't know if there is a different
between a coax cable here or where you come from. On the cable is
written coaxial cable rg-59u of bandridge.

Hope you can help me out

How are you hooking the RG59U cable to the svideo cable? via some sort
of =
RF
modulator?

RG59U cable is for antennas and cable TV hookups. It is not for
baseband v=
ideo
like composite or s-video is.

So i am ASSuming that you are hooking it up into the TV where your
antenna=

would hookup? =A0- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

I am hooking the rg59u cable to the svideo cable through a small
connector ( about 2,5 inches) on both side of this connector the
svideo and coax cable is hooked

The rg59u cable is connected to the video input channel on the tv on
the frontside of the tv. The antenna (like you call it is allways
connected to the tv on the backside. The antenna cable has a different
connector then the coax cablecable.

So I am talking about 2 different cables. The caox cable is not the
antenna I am using for the tv.

By the way this cable I have used with my previous pc to connect to my
tv and that worked perfectly.

OK, sounds like you are using an s-video to composite converter and using
a
composite cable with rca type jacks on the ends. Click on the NVIDIA
settings
icon on the bottom taskbar, then NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL then choose SETUP
MULTIPLE DISPLAYS. If the TV is still not being detected you can force it
to
detect display.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

That is the main problem. The part to force tv detection is greyed
out. I cannot use it. It seems like I don't have any cables connected
from the pc to the tv set.


The cable from the PC to the TV must be one cable and one cable only - no
adapters allowed.

The video card does not "see" the s-video connection because your inline
adapter is blocking the signal it needs to initialize it. The video card
must "see" the TV connection thru the s-video cable to the TV direct, or you
can connect a composite cable directly from the video card to the TV, then
the video card will detect the TV.

There is no composite connector on these cards. I think you are hitting on
the right idea though.

For the TV connector to work, if i remember correctly it needs to sense a load
on the cable for the video card to instruct the software to enable the use of
the connector. So a s-video to composite converter might need to be plugged
directly into the video cards s-video port and then a composite cable ran from
that to the TV. also sometimes the TV must be on before the computer is turned
on for it to work if i recall.




I don't know what signal the video card looks for on the s-video, but I do
know that on composite, the video card looks for a 75 ohm termination from
the TV before it can initialize TV out.

"GMAN" wrote in message
...
In article , "PhxGrunge"
wrote:

"Jerry Manner" wrote in message
...
On 27 feb, 23:01, (GMAN) wrote:
In article
,
Jerry
Manner wrote:





On 27 feb, 19:15, (GMAN) wrote:
In article
.=
com, Jerry Manner wrote:

On 27 feb, 16:14, (GMAN) wrote:
In article
=
ps.=3D
com, Jerry Manner wrote:

On 27 feb, 02:25, "JLC" jc@nospam wrote:
"Jerry Manner" wrote in message


=
....=3D

Hi

I have a new system ( windows Vista) with Nvidia Geforce
8800
GT
graphics card. The card has a tv-out to connect my tv to the
pc. I=
f I=3D

look into the software of nvidia I cannot find anything to
switch =
on
the tv mode or whatsoever. I have searched the forums at
nvidia it=
sel=3D
f
but no clear reason for this.

Has anyone experience the same and solve this problem?

I have a Windows Vista 32 bit system which I want to connect
to a
'regular' tv. From my pc I am using a s-video cable which is
conne=
cte=3D
d
to a coax cable. This cable is connected to the video input
on
my =
tv.=3D

This setup has worked perfectly with my previous pc.

Any help will be appreciated.

Regards

A few months ago a person posted the same problem you are
having. It=
's =3D
the=3D3D

coax cable that is problem. Does your TV not have a s-video
input? O=
r i=3D
s i=3D3D
t
because you think you can't use an s-video cable for a long
run?
I a=
dvi=3D
sed=3D3D

him to try just using the s-video cable and it worked. You can
buy l=
ong=3D

s-video cables very cheap online. Here's where I buy all my
cables a=
nd =3D
I'v=3D3D
e
never been
disappointed.http://www.buyextras.com=3D3DA0Alsomakesure=
your=3D
TV =3D3D
is
on and set to the right input before you turn on your PC, that
helps=
.. I=3D
al=3D3D
so
use a very handy program called "TV Tool" this program is much
easer=
to=3D
us=3D3D
e
than Nvidia control panel. Good Luck, JLC- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk =
ber=3D
ich=3D3D
t niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

Thank you for responding.

Is the coax cable also the reason why I don't see the option in
the
nvidia software to clone the tv or enable tv mode? The tv has a
video
input, it does not say s-video input. The input on the tv does
not
have a 4 pin plug like the s-video input on my pc. Does that
matter?
Could the problem also be that I have Windows Vista?

I was under the assumption that this setup should work, because
my
previous pc also had a s-video input and I used the same cable (
=3DA0=
pc --=3D

s-video cable -- coax cable -- tv) to connect to my tv and
that
worked perfectly.

Regards

By coax do you mean that you are using an s-video to composite
converte=
r =3D
=3DA0and
then running that to the TV? There should be a place in the
control
pan=
el =3D
of
the Nvidia card that allows you to force TV detection.

Even though a composite cable is considered a coaxial type cable,
its n=
ot =3D
what
most people consider coax, most here consider coax as the black
75ohm R=
F c=3D
able
that is uses for cable tv or antenna hookups.- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk=
be=3D
richt niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

=3D46rom the video card on the pc I have a s-video small cable( 4
pin, 2
feet) that is connected to a long coax cable (about 20 feet). This
coax cable is connected to the video input on the tv.

In the control panel of the tv I dont see any partthat allows me to
force tv detection. That is the weird thing. Someone told me that
when
I connect the s-video to the pc I should hear a sound ( meaning
that
the pc has recognized the cable).

I live in the Netherlands and don't know if there is a different
between a coax cable here or where you come from. On the cable is
written coaxial cable rg-59u of bandridge.

Hope you can help me out

How are you hooking the RG59U cable to the svideo cable? via some
sort
of =
RF
modulator?

RG59U cable is for antennas and cable TV hookups. It is not for
baseband v=
ideo
like composite or s-video is.

So i am ASSuming that you are hooking it up into the TV where your
antenna=

would hookup? =A0- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

I am hooking the rg59u cable to the svideo cable through a small
connector ( about 2,5 inches) on both side of this connector the
svideo and coax cable is hooked

The rg59u cable is connected to the video input channel on the tv on
the frontside of the tv. The antenna (like you call it is allways
connected to the tv on the backside. The antenna cable has a different
connector then the coax cablecable.

So I am talking about 2 different cables. The caox cable is not the
antenna I am using for the tv.

By the way this cable I have used with my previous pc to connect to my
tv and that worked perfectly.

OK, sounds like you are using an s-video to composite converter and
using
a
composite cable with rca type jacks on the ends. Click on the NVIDIA
settings
icon on the bottom taskbar, then NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL then choose SETUP
MULTIPLE DISPLAYS. If the TV is still not being detected you can force
it
to
detect display.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Hi

That is the main problem. The part to force tv detection is greyed
out. I cannot use it. It seems like I don't have any cables connected
from the pc to the tv set.


The cable from the PC to the TV must be one cable and one cable only - no
adapters allowed.

The video card does not "see" the s-video connection because your inline
adapter is blocking the signal it needs to initialize it. The video card
must "see" the TV connection thru the s-video cable to the TV direct, or
you
can connect a composite cable directly from the video card to the TV, then
the video card will detect the TV.

There is no composite connector on these cards. I think you are hitting on
the right idea though.

For the TV connector to work, if i remember correctly it needs to sense a
load
on the cable for the video card to instruct the software to enable the use
of
the connector. So a s-video to composite converter might need to be
plugged
directly into the video cards s-video port and then a composite cable ran
from
that to the TV. also sometimes the TV must be on before the computer is
turned
on for it to work if i recall.

GMAN is right. I forgot to say the TV must be on and the correct input
selected before the signal is sent thru the cable.





I don't know what signal the video card looks for on the s-video, but I do
know that on composite, the video card looks for a 75 ohm termination from
the TV before it can initialize TV out.