6800 ultra or GT? much difference in games?

I am a level 3 broadband tech for TWC, Apparently you don't know how easy it is to get a new IP and
once I do you will never know who I am or was. Besides what are you going to do pull up the trace
route for every post you read? Sounds pretty tedious to me.

On 8 Oct 2004 16:41:14 +0950, "@ndrew" andrewratinternodedotondotnet wrote:

LooseNut wrote:

Like that matters, I could change my nym and no one would know me
again. You think that's air your breathing?

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:29:27 +0100, "Chip"
wrote:


Nah we'd recognize you through this:

From: LooseNut
Subject: 6800 ultra or GT? much difference in games?
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:56:23 GMT
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"LooseNut" wrote in message
...
I made the comment because I was offended by some idiot that is trying to
make me look bad, and I
have nothing to lose by making him look bad in turn. He struck first... do
i need to repost my first
posts?

You made yourself look bad, because you were convinced you were right and
everyone else was wrong. Wanna post those quotes of yours too? Why don't
you stop being a jackass and be thankful we (me) managed to save you from
wasting $300.
The Gainward cards are not THAT mislabeled, at least they shouldn't be for a
3rd level tech support guru like you! They call them Ultras because they
OC, have a different cooler, and dual DVI out.

Well here they a

1st post
"Pricewatch lists the ultra cheaper than the GT" posting this in the
hopes someone will actually
go look and tell me why this is. All is get is guff about how pricewatch
is a scam, when I know it
is not a scam but a great tool as long as you check out the company before
you buy.

2nd post (the one he denies I made)
"GameVE has the Ultra listed for $293, where can I get GT cheaper?

Because the cheapest GT I can find is at Ajump for $345"

and all I get is someone telling me "that's irrelevant" when there is a
Ultra clearly listed for
less than the GT. And it all goes downhill from there. If your not going
to be helpful you should'nt
bother to post. Simply denying what I was clearly seeing is not going to
satisfy me that I "should
get a GT" without question. So I figured if I troll a bit I might get a
logical response. I really
don't care if I offend the people who were not helping me anyway.

Only later, much later, do I find out Gainward has unscrupulously listed
ALL their cards as Ultras.
This is clearly a ploy to sell cards to people who think they are actually
getting a ultra when all
they are getting is screwed. No I didn't go to the gainward site but only
because I would never in
my wildest dreams believe that a company I once had respect for would
attempt to take advantage of
people that way.

HTH

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 10:32:39 -0700, "CapFusion"
wrote:


"LooseNut" wrote in message
. ..
Read my first few posts where I am ASKING why should I pay more for a
GT
when I can get a Ultra
cheaper, Better run along now skippy I hear your mom calling you.


Why do you make this kind of comment - "Better run along now skippy I hear
your mom calling you." ?
It does not help any situation - bad or good.

CapFusion,...

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:38:58 -0400, "Brenden D. Chase"
wrote:

CapFusion wrote:
Actually, you should be able to figure it out yourself from Gainward.com
site.
6800 Ultra series as follow -
GeForce 6800 - Ultra/2100 TV/DVI 128MB
http://www.gainward.com/html/product.../2100tvdvi.htm
GeForce 6800LE - Ultra/2100LE TV/DVI 128MB
http://www.gainward.com/html/product...100LEtvdvi.htm
GeForce 6800GT - Ultra/2400 TV/DVI 256MB
http://www.gainward.com/html/product...2400tvdvi2.htm
GeForce 6800Ultra - Ultra/2600 TV/DVI/DVI 256MB
http://www.gainward.com/html/product...2600tvdvi2.htm


You gotta admit, the naming convention there is somewhat misleading...
especially if someone who didnt know was shopping at a different site
and all the site offered was the GeForce 6800 Ultra/2100

If i saw that on Newegg i'm sure i would expect it to be too good to be
true, but makes me wonder how many people have been duped??
We know of at least one

"bp" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:38:58 -0400, "Brenden D. Chase"
wrote:

CapFusion wrote:
Actually, you should be able to figure it out yourself from Gainward.com
site.
6800 Ultra series as follow -
GeForce 6800 - Ultra/2100 TV/DVI 128MB
http://www.gainward.com/html/product.../2100tvdvi.htm
GeForce 6800LE - Ultra/2100LE TV/DVI 128MB
http://www.gainward.com/html/product...100LEtvdvi.htm
GeForce 6800GT - Ultra/2400 TV/DVI 256MB
http://www.gainward.com/html/product...2400tvdvi2.htm
GeForce 6800Ultra - Ultra/2600 TV/DVI/DVI 256MB
http://www.gainward.com/html/product...2600tvdvi2.htm


You gotta admit, the naming convention there is somewhat misleading...
especially if someone who didnt know was shopping at a different site
and all the site offered was the GeForce 6800 Ultra/2100

If i saw that on Newegg i'm sure i would expect it to be too good to be
true, but makes me wonder how many people have been duped??
We know of at least one

LOL :-)

LooseNut wrote:

I am a level 3 broadband tech for TWC, Apparently you don't know how
easy it is to get a new IP and once I do you will never know who I
am or was. Besides what are you going to do pull up the trace route
for every post you read? Sounds pretty tedious to me.



Don't have to pull up the trace route each time my newsreader does it
for me .. XanaNews.

@ndrew

I did make myself look bad but It was somewhat intentional. I was trolling at that point. I meant to
step on toes because people were leading me in circles. I apologize to the people who helped me the
others can go back to sniffing their paint. I don't plan to spend more time here than necessary so
no need to make friends.

A big thanks to those who helped me. Guess that would be you Kil lBill.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:47:24 GMT, "Kill Bill" wrote:


"LooseNut" wrote in message
.. .
I made the comment because I was offended by some idiot that is trying to
make me look bad, and I
have nothing to lose by making him look bad in turn. He struck first... do
i need to repost my first
posts?

You made yourself look bad, because you were convinced you were right and
everyone else was wrong. Wanna post those quotes of yours too? Why don't
you stop being a jackass and be thankful we (me) managed to save you from
wasting $300.
The Gainward cards are not THAT mislabeled, at least they shouldn't be for a
3rd level tech support guru like you! They call them Ultras because they
OC, have a different cooler, and dual DVI out.

Well here they a

1st post
"Pricewatch lists the ultra cheaper than the GT" posting this in the
hopes someone will actually
go look and tell me why this is. All is get is guff about how pricewatch
is a scam, when I know it
is not a scam but a great tool as long as you check out the company before
you buy.

2nd post (the one he denies I made)
"GameVE has the Ultra listed for $293, where can I get GT cheaper?

Because the cheapest GT I can find is at Ajump for $345"

and all I get is someone telling me "that's irrelevant" when there is a
Ultra clearly listed for
less than the GT. And it all goes downhill from there. If your not going
to be helpful you should'nt
bother to post. Simply denying what I was clearly seeing is not going to
satisfy me that I "should
get a GT" without question. So I figured if I troll a bit I might get a
logical response. I really
don't care if I offend the people who were not helping me anyway.

Only later, much later, do I find out Gainward has unscrupulously listed
ALL their cards as Ultras.
This is clearly a ploy to sell cards to people who think they are actually
getting a ultra when all
they are getting is screwed. No I didn't go to the gainward site but only
because I would never in
my wildest dreams believe that a company I once had respect for would
attempt to take advantage of
people that way.

HTH

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 10:32:39 -0700, "CapFusion"
wrote:


"LooseNut" wrote in message
...
Read my first few posts where I am ASKING why should I pay more for a
GT
when I can get a Ultra
cheaper, Better run along now skippy I hear your mom calling you.


Why do you make this kind of comment - "Better run along now skippy I hear
your mom calling you." ?
It does not help any situation - bad or good.

CapFusion,...

OK, let's go thru this one more time.
There are, currently only 6 levels of 6800
6800 LE - 128MB 4 Pixel Shaders, 8 Pipes, 128-bit, pretty much a 6600 GT,
only clocked a bit higher
6800 - 128 MB 5 Pixel Shaders, 12 Pipes, all this level and above are
256-bit
6800 - 256 MB same as above
6800 GT - 256 MB, 6 Pixel Shaders, 16 Pipes
6800 Ultra - 256 MB, 6 Pixel Shaders, 16 Pipes Faster than the GT
6800 Ultra Extreme - 256 - 512 MB, 6 Pixel Shaders, 16 Pipes, even faster
than the Ultra (nVidia has not officially released this card yet, and many
are wondering if they will before the Fall or Spring refresh - 6850 or
6900.)

Hope this helps. Make sure you pay attention when getting your card. On
top of this, everything from the GT up is SLI capable, if you get the PCI-E
version, that is.


"Kiran Kumar Kamineni" wrote in message
...
You have to also consider which type of card you are talking about,
128MB or 256MB
because you will find that a 256MB GT is costlier than a 128MB Ultra.

"hunter" wrote in message
...
no way can you get a Ultra cheaper than GT

after loads of searching I no because I just bought a XFX GT for £291.81



"bp" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:50:10 GMT, LooseNut wrote:

GameVE has the Ultra listed for $293, where can I get GT cheaper?

That price must be wrong.

Because the cheapest GT I can find is at Ajump for $345


On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 00:22:58 +0100, "Chip"
wrote:


"LooseNut" wrote in message
. ..
Pricewatch lists the ultra cheaper than the GT


Well Pricewatch is wrong then. No-one is selling Ultras cheaper
than
than
the GT's. Period.

Chip

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:07:47 -0400, "Brenden D. Chase"
wrote:

Luke Piasecki wrote:
Could you elaborate on the overclocking? Is the card stable? Can
use
same
fan? All brands can be overclocked? (I thought it was only the
Gainward
GT
Golden Sample).

Thank you,


I bought a GT and overclocked it to Ultra speeds. very easy to
do
with
forceware cool bits.

Save the hundred US dollars and get the GT and just over clock
it.





I've got a BFG Geforce GT OC

after you install your driver for the card, you need to find and
download Forceware Coolbits. Just do a google search, you WILL
find
it
easily. The card is stable. I've seen no graphically errors or
artifacts, and not crashing at all. I'm using the stock cooling
and
fan. The card has a temp cutoff at 120 degrees built in. From
what
i've
seen on the 3dmarks website it looks to me that plenty of people
are
overclocking all brands of this card.

SLI? is that where you run 2 cards simultaneously?

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 03:18:40 GMT, "Lord Blue" wrote:

OK, let's go thru this one more time.
There are, currently only 6 levels of 6800
6800 LE - 128MB 4 Pixel Shaders, 8 Pipes, 128-bit, pretty much a 6600 GT,
only clocked a bit higher
6800 - 128 MB 5 Pixel Shaders, 12 Pipes, all this level and above are
256-bit
6800 - 256 MB same as above
6800 GT - 256 MB, 6 Pixel Shaders, 16 Pipes
6800 Ultra - 256 MB, 6 Pixel Shaders, 16 Pipes Faster than the GT
6800 Ultra Extreme - 256 - 512 MB, 6 Pixel Shaders, 16 Pipes, even faster
than the Ultra (nVidia has not officially released this card yet, and many
are wondering if they will before the Fall or Spring refresh - 6850 or
6900.)

Hope this helps. Make sure you pay attention when getting your card. On
top of this, everything from the GT up is SLI capable, if you get the PCI-E
version, that is.


"Kiran Kumar Kamineni" wrote in message
...
You have to also consider which type of card you are talking about,
128MB or 256MB
because you will find that a 256MB GT is costlier than a 128MB Ultra.

"hunter" wrote in message
...
no way can you get a Ultra cheaper than GT

after loads of searching I no because I just bought a XFX GT for £291.81



"bp" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:50:10 GMT, LooseNut wrote:

GameVE has the Ultra listed for $293, where can I get GT cheaper?

That price must be wrong.

Because the cheapest GT I can find is at Ajump for $345


On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 00:22:58 +0100, "Chip"
wrote:


"LooseNut" wrote in message
. ..
Pricewatch lists the ultra cheaper than the GT


Well Pricewatch is wrong then. No-one is selling Ultras cheaper
than
than
the GT's. Period.

Chip

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:07:47 -0400, "Brenden D. Chase"
wrote:

Luke Piasecki wrote:
Could you elaborate on the overclocking? Is the card stable? Can
use
same
fan? All brands can be overclocked? (I thought it was only the
Gainward
GT
Golden Sample).

Thank you,


I bought a GT and overclocked it to Ultra speeds. very easy to
do
with
forceware cool bits.

Save the hundred US dollars and get the GT and just over clock
it.





I've got a BFG Geforce GT OC

after you install your driver for the card, you need to find and
download Forceware Coolbits. Just do a google search, you WILL
find
it
easily. The card is stable. I've seen no graphically errors or
artifacts, and not crashing at all. I'm using the stock cooling
and
fan. The card has a temp cutoff at 120 degrees built in. From
what
i've
seen on the 3dmarks website it looks to me that plenty of people
are
overclocking all brands of this card.

Am Mon, 11 Oct 2004 05:50:32 GMT schrieb LooseNut :

SLI? is that where you run 2 cards simultaneously?

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 03:18:40 GMT, "Lord Blue"
wrote:

OK, let's go thru this one more time.
There are, currently only 6 levels of 6800
6800 LE - 128MB 4 Pixel Shaders, 8 Pipes, 128-bit, pretty much a 6600
GT,
only clocked a bit higher
6800 - 128 MB 5 Pixel Shaders, 12 Pipes, all this level and above are
256-bit
6800 - 256 MB same as above
6800 GT - 256 MB, 6 Pixel Shaders, 16 Pipes
6800 Ultra - 256 MB, 6 Pixel Shaders, 16 Pipes Faster than the GT
6800 Ultra Extreme - 256 - 512 MB, 6 Pixel Shaders, 16 Pipes, even
faster
than the Ultra (nVidia has not officially released this card yet, and
many
are wondering if they will before the Fall or Spring refresh - 6850 or
6900.)

Hope this helps. Make sure you pay attention when getting your card.
On
top of this, everything from the GT up is SLI capable, if you get the
PCI-E
version, that is.



[...]

Yepp! That's it! Connect 2 (identical) Ultras PCI-E... WHARP 9.9...
Whoooosh!

"...To boldly go where no one has gone before"

Do You remember the old Voodoo-Cards?


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--
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man vergessen hat, dass sie welche sind."
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