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Suddenly, without warning, RT exclaimed (3/24/2005 8:26 PM):
"Vermyndax" wrote in message ... I currently have Cool N Quiet disabled in my BIOS. I didn't think it would have that big of an impact on my processor's health, so I switched it off. With WinXP 64-bit about to come out, I'm rethinking this. Is there anyone using it and what benefits has it provided you (if any)? --JM Does it have anything to do with your processors health? I just upgraded and I was thinking of using it at nights when I download, little CPU power is needed and with summer coming it might heat up the room less (or less chance of overheating). New AMD 64 user The cooler your processor, the better it's 'health'. Theoretically, the cooler you keep the processor, the longer it will last. On my machine, Cool-and-Quiet lowered the proc temperature by about 5c, from 40c to 35c (AMD 300+ 64 on a K8V Deluxe). jmc |
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"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2005.03.25.01.05.38.453525@TAKEOUTverizon .net... On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:47:56 +0000, Derek Baker wrote: "Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2005.03.24.20.54.51.940087@TAKEOUTverizon .net... On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:05:23 -0600, Vermyndax wrote: I currently have Cool N Quiet disabled in my BIOS. I didn't think it would have that big of an impact on my processor's health, so I switched it off. With WinXP 64-bit about to come out, I'm rethinking this. Is there anyone using it and what benefits has it provided you (if any)? By itself Cool N Quiet does nothing. But it has to be enabled to run powernow, which is the ability to lower vcore and multiplier while running. Th lowest setting on mine is , which it runs at least 95% of the time. When under a load it will jump to and when over under heavy load it will set the cpu vcore to default (1.5v) and raise the multuplier to default 10, on mine, for 2000MHz. The actual speed is determined by the FSB x multiplier. So if I had the FSB set to 210, the speeds would be 840,1890, and 2100MHz. With a cooler that automatically adjust fan speed, it would keep the fan speed down u at low settings when the cpu is at low speed, and raise fan speed when running max. With just a plain cooler, the speed never changes and it doesn't get any quieter unless you have software speed control like qfan or something. You don't have to have a smart cooler, some (all?) motherboards will control the fan speed; my K8N Neo does. I think that's exactly what I said. And the answer to your "(all?)' is no, not all do. How many do I don't know. Probably 50% or less. Not exactly. -- Derek |
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Is cool and quiet a propert of the CPU or the motherboard?
The reason I ask is that Asus motherboards advertise cool 'n quiet, while some others do not (Gigabit I believe) To get cool 'n quiet, one must select the correct motherboard? "General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message news On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:05:23 -0600, Vermyndax wrote: I currently have Cool N Quiet disabled in my BIOS. I didn't think it would have that big of an impact on my processor's health, so I switched it off. With WinXP 64-bit about to come out, I'm rethinking this. Is there anyone using it and what benefits has it provided you (if any)? --JM It makes a huge difference, 99% of the time the CPU will be running at it's lowest clock speed which reduces the power enough so that the CPU fan isn't needed. |
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"Keith S." wrote in message
news:cKU0e.4032$AN1.3860@fed1read03... Is cool and quiet a propert of the CPU or the motherboard? The reason I ask is that Asus motherboards advertise cool 'n quiet, while some others do not (Gigabit I believe) To get cool 'n quiet, one must select the correct motherboard? "General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message news On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:05:23 -0600, Vermyndax wrote: I currently have Cool N Quiet disabled in my BIOS. I didn't think it would have that big of an impact on my processor's health, so I switched it off. With WinXP 64-bit about to come out, I'm rethinking this. Is there anyone using it and what benefits has it provided you (if any)? --JM It makes a huge difference, 99% of the time the CPU will be running at it's lowest clock speed which reduces the power enough so that the CPU fan isn't needed. AFAIK it's a property of the CPU. -- Derek |
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"Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2005.03.25.01.05.38.453525@TAKEOUTverizon .net... | On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:47:56 +0000, Derek Baker wrote: | | "Wes Newell" wrote in message | newsan.2005.03.24.20.54.51.940087@TAKEOUTverizon .net... | On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:05:23 -0600, Vermyndax wrote: | | speeds would be 840,1890, and 2100MHz. With a cooler that automatically | adjust fan speed, it would keep the fan speed down u at low settings when | the cpu is at low speed, and raise fan speed when running max. With just a | plain cooler, the speed never changes and it doesn't get any quieter | unless you have software speed control like qfan or something. | | | | You don't have to have a smart cooler, some (all?) motherboards will control | the fan speed; my K8N Neo does. | | I think that's exactly what I said. And the answer to your "(all?)' is no, | not all do. How many do I don't know. Probably 50% or less. | Actually, exactly what you said (you even quoted it in the reply) was "With a cooler that automatically adjust fan speed, it would keep the fan speed down u at low settings when the cpu is at low speed, and raise fan speed when running max. With just a plain cooler, the speed never changes and it doesn't get any quieter unless you have software speed control like qfan or something." Derek is speaking of motherboards that will throttle the fanspeeds on a normal fan for you, without the use of software. |
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:11:39 -0500, Hierophant wrote:
Actually, exactly what you said (you even quoted it in the reply) was "With a cooler that automatically adjust fan speed, it would keep the fan speed down u at low settings when the cpu is at low speed, and raise fan speed when running max. With just a plain cooler, the speed never changes and it doesn't get any quieter unless you have software speed control like qfan or something." Derek is speaking of motherboards that will throttle the fanspeeds on a normal fan for you, without the use of software. There are no such MB's that I know of. All are controlled in one way or another by the bios, which is software. They also must be harware capable of reducing the voltage to the fan. One could design a MB using hardware to do this, but without software control to turn it on/off, adjust speed, etc., I wouldn't want one. So afaik, all MB's with the capability of fan control use software to control it's function in one way or another. perhaps I just didn't make it clear earlier. And if there is a MB that works without software, with no way to control it, I stand corrected. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2005.03.25.22.35.29.362762@TAKEOUTverizon .net... On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:11:39 -0500, Hierophant wrote: Actually, exactly what you said (you even quoted it in the reply) was "With a cooler that automatically adjust fan speed, it would keep the fan speed down u at low settings when the cpu is at low speed, and raise fan speed when running max. With just a plain cooler, the speed never changes and it doesn't get any quieter unless you have software speed control like qfan or something." Derek is speaking of motherboards that will throttle the fanspeeds on a normal fan for you, without the use of software. There are no such MB's that I know of. All are controlled in one way or another by the bios, which is software. They also must be harware capable of reducing the voltage to the fan. One could design a MB using hardware to do this, but without software control to turn it on/off, adjust speed, etc., I wouldn't want one. So afaik, all MB's with the capability of fan control use software to control it's function in one way or another. perhaps I just didn't make it clear earlier. And if there is a MB that works without software, with no way to control it, I stand corrected. If it's done by the motherboard, even if via the BIOS, I consider that hardware rather than software. -- Derek |
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"Derek Baker" wrote in message ... "Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2005.03.25.22.35.29.362762@TAKEOUTverizon .net... On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:11:39 -0500, Hierophant wrote: If it's done by the motherboard, even if via the BIOS, I consider that hardware rather than software. It is technically still software if it is BIOS controlled. He is just trying to cover his tracks. Some people don't like being corrected. |
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With Cool'n'Quiet disabled in my BIOS, the CPU temp runs at about
105-111'F. The fan noise doesn't bother me... I'm using a stock cooler that came in the Athlon retail package and an Antec P160 case. Honestly, the fan noise is less than the p3-733 sitting next to me. --JM General Schvantzkoph wrote: It makes a huge difference, 99% of the time the CPU will be running at it's lowest clock speed which reduces the power enough so that the CPU fan isn't needed. |
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:35:06 -0500, Hierophant wrote:
"Derek Baker" wrote in message If it's done by the motherboard, even if via the BIOS, I consider that hardware rather than software. It is technically still software if it is BIOS controlled. He is just trying to cover his tracks. Some people don't like being corrected. I don't mind being corrected if I'm wrong or make a mistake. But in this case I was neither. Although I'll admit I didn't fully explain the speed control function in my first post. I didn't think it was needed. So I guess I was wrong there.:-) -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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