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Advantages of going XP64
Is there any benefits loading XP 64bit version instead of normal 32bit XP?
It seems driver support is less than complete. I only have 1GB of RAM in my AMD64 3500+ system, so do not need the extended memory addressing. Is there any other benefit of a 64bit operating system? or is it snake oil? |
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Black Shuck wrote:
Is there any benefits loading XP 64bit version instead of normal 32bit XP? Go linux instead. You'll have a real OS. |
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abc got up from the bar and shouted: :
Black Shuck wrote: Is there any benefits loading XP 64bit version instead of normal 32bit XP? Go linux instead. You'll have a real OS. Already run Linux on my home server (a Gentoo box), but as a workstation OS, Linux sucks badly. Perhaps in a few years it would be ready for mainstream... You did not however answer any part of the original question..... |
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"Black Shuck" wrote in message ... abc got up from the bar and shouted: : Black Shuck wrote: Is there any benefits loading XP 64bit version instead of normal 32bit XP? Go linux instead. You'll have a real OS. Already run Linux on my home server (a Gentoo box), but as a workstation OS, Linux sucks badly. Perhaps in a few years it would be ready for mainstream... You did not however answer any part of the original question..... |
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Black Shuck wrote:
Go linux instead. You'll have a real OS. Already run Linux on my home server (a Gentoo box), but as a workstation OS, Linux sucks badly. Listen to me. Change your pusher asap. His dope will kill you soon. |
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abc got up from the bar and shouted: :
Black Shuck wrote: Go linux instead. You'll have a real OS. Already run Linux on my home server (a Gentoo box), but as a workstation OS, Linux sucks badly. Listen to me. Change your pusher asap. His dope will kill you soon. Are you really saying Linux does not suck as a desktop operating system... I think you are the one on crack... |
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Black Shuck wrote:
abc got up from the bar and shouted: : Black Shuck wrote: Go linux instead. You'll have a real OS. Already run Linux on my home server (a Gentoo box), but as a workstation OS, Linux sucks badly. Listen to me. Change your pusher asap. His dope will kill you soon. Are you really saying Linux does not suck as a desktop operating system... I think you are the one on crack... There's a brand new drug downtown.... User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6+ (Windows/20050118) |
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Is there any benefits loading XP 64bit version instead of normal 32bit XP?
It seems driver support is less than complete. I only have 1GB of RAM in my AMD64 3500+ system, so do not need the extended memory addressing. Is there any other benefit of a 64bit operating system? or is it snake oil? Even with just 1GB of physical RAM, you can benefit from the larger address space available to each process--I've had a program I develop at work fail to allocate memory due to address space fragmentation (i.e., no sufficiently large block of addresses) even though there was plenty of physical memory available. This would not have been a problem in a 64-bit system. Still, for most desktop applications, the increased memory headroom might not offset the compatibility problems that still dog 64-bit systems (both Windows and Linux). |
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Black Shuck writes:
Is there any benefits loading XP 64bit version instead of normal 32bit XP? It seems driver support is less than complete. I only have 1GB of RAM in my AMD64 3500+ system, so do not need the extended memory addressing. Is there any other benefit of a 64bit operating system? or is it snake oil? Few applications today seem to have been designed or compiled to take advantage of a 64 bit processor or os. The latest version of Mathematica is an exception. You can find the benchmark data out there, there are a couple of archives, showing the gains Mathematica sees for some computationally intensive application areas when running in a 64 bit os. Sitting here waiting for a good Fry's sale on a 939 board and cpu. |
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Black Shuck wrote:
Is there any benefits loading XP 64bit version instead of normal 32bit XP? It seems driver support is less than complete. I only have 1GB of RAM in my AMD64 3500+ system, so do not need the extended memory addressing. Is there any other benefit of a 64bit operating system? or is it snake oil? Well, in reality, there's nothing much that's a must-have yet. I assume that your major question is whether there is any advantage in running existing 32-bit applications under the 64-bit Windows? There are a few, I'll list a few of them, and you can decide whether it's something that you really need. One advantage is that even though you may not have more RAM than is addressable with a regular old 32-bit system, the 64-bit system is capable of addressing way more virtual memory. For example in a 32-bit system the virtual memory limit is 4GB, so with 1GB already installed you're already very close to your virtual memory limit. In fact, you're scarily close to that limit. The OS needs a little bit of swap space to rearrange pages on the fly. Another advantage to 32-bit apps is that they each get a full 4GB of memory to themselves. In a 32-bit system, each app has to share the 4GB with other programs, as well as the OS itself. In fact the 2GB of that whole 4GB is reserved for just the OS itself (unless you start Windows up in the /3GB mode, which limits the OS to 1GB and gives the apps 3GB). In a 64-bit system, the OS exists completely outside of the 4GB limits, and each 32-bit app sees its own personal 4GB of space. Also somewhat related to this is that 32-bit programs that are large address-aware (the ones that can take advantage of 3GB app spaces), now get 4GB instead of just 3GB, which might make a difference to them. Really, the only thing that keeps XP64 from being the no-brainer choice is the lack of mature driver base. Everything else should be an advantage to it. Oh yes, there is also the problem with the fact that the very old 16-bit Windows apps will now no longer work in XP64. They maintained 32-bit backward compatibility, but they dumped the 16-bit compatibility. I don't know why they did that, it shouldn't have been all that much harder to implement it, but it was Microsoft's decision. Yousuf Khan |
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