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Wes Newell wrote in
newsan.2004.07.20.20.40.05.864247@TAKEOUTverizon .net: What type apps are you talking about? Quicken, VersaCheck and TurboTax or TaxCut. There are NO Linux equivalents, there aren't even any Windows equivalents. For example, Microsoft Money, Gnucash and Moneydance all say they will import Quicken files, they all lie. Not my files nor anyone else's files that are complex, I'm not the only one who's tried. Quicken will "sorta" run under Crossover Office but "sorta" does't cut it. VersaCheck will run under Wine but it won't print. The ONLY function of VersaCheck is to print so.... ???? There's other ways of printing checks, I can download MICR fonts and probably create some way to do it, but until Quicken runs under Linux I'll be running Windows. I don't play games, download music, surf the web, etc. My PC is for financial use only and Quicken is why it exists, w/o the three programs above I wouldn't even need a computer! Dang, wouldn't that be nice? ;-) |
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LOL. They don't work as flawsless as they do in Windows XP though,
especially with DirectX settings turned all the way up. Remember, the programs you talk about are emulators, and thus cannot compete with Windows Native as far as speed, and high color and textures etc... I buy games for the graphics, speed and sound. I don't know of one game that works with EAX4 in Linux. Just because you can get something to work, doesn't mean it works as well. ) "Hellmark" wrote in message newsan.2004.07.20.21.46.47.161295@swbell.****SPA M.net... Pseudo Namen's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body we The biggest problem I have with using Linux only is GAMES. 1. The Sims There is a linux port 2. Sim City 4 has a linux port 6. Command & Conquer: Generals Hmm, cant remember if this one can run with the Wines. I know after EA bought out Eastwood, they started putting in antidebugger code, which messes with Wine. 7. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 11. Age Of Empires Runs with Cedega 4. Diblo 2 One of the games that is supposed to work flawlessly under Wine 12. Flight Simulater 2004 Can't run under Wine, cedega or Crossover Office 8. Hitman 2 First one works, but this one has some conflicts that make it not run. Think the anti-debugger issue 3. Sacrifice Runs under Cedega 5. Dungeon Siege Has some issues, but runs 9. Tomb Raider:The Angel Of Darness This one doesnt install, because the installer doesnt want to switch disks under Wine, but I'm not sure if a preexisting install would work 10. Evolva Installs but can't be run 13. Raven Shield Installs, runs, but has some problems with things like key configuration, etc. Since its based off UT2003, shouldnt be that much longer till its run able I dont think. 14. Warcraft 3 Again one of the ones that works flawlessly under cedega. What other games do you have questions on? Just because you think they dont have a native linux port, doesnt mean they won't run (plus as I said, a couple do have native ports). |
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Pseudo Namen wrote:
LOL. They don't work as flawsless as they do in Windows XP though, especially with DirectX settings turned all the way up. Remember, the programs you talk about are emulators, and thus cannot compete with Windows Native as far as speed, and high color and textures etc... I buy games for the graphics, speed and sound. I don't know of one game that works with EAX4 in Linux. Just because you can get something to work, doesn't mean it works as well. o) #1 Learn how to post on Usenet by not top posting. #2 WINE and WINEX are not emulators, they are compatability layers. There is a world of difference between the two systems. #3 Some games actually play better on a GNU/Linux platform, example Morrowind. #4 Being happy that you are nearly forced to game on a propietary system is retarded. Do you like giving extra money to those that want to insure that you are further locked in to using their products only? Talk about a vicious circle... #5 Companies licensing source out for porting is a win/win/win. |
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"Net Resident" wrote in message ... Pseudo Namen wrote: LOL. They don't work as flawsless as they do in Windows XP though, especially with DirectX settings turned all the way up. Remember, the programs you talk about are emulators, and thus cannot compete with Windows Native as far as speed, and high color and textures etc... I buy games for the graphics, speed and sound. I don't know of one game that works with EAX4 in Linux. Just because you can get something to work, doesn't mean it works as well. o) #1 Learn how to post on Usenet by not top posting. #2 WINE and WINEX are not emulators, they are compatability layers. There is a world of difference between the two systems. #3 Some games actually play better on a GNU/Linux platform, example Morrowind. #4 Being happy that you are nearly forced to game on a propietary system is retarded. Do you like giving extra money to those that want to insure that you are further locked in to using their products only? Talk about a vicious circle... #5 Companies licensing source out for porting is a win/win/win. Read my other posts. Most of them are NOT top posted. No matter what you call them, they are NOT native Windows NO games that are native Windows games work better in LINUX, that is pure bull****. You are the one being retarded. And finally, I am not a company. I am an individual. Now learn some manners. |
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"Net Resident" wrote #1 Learn how to post on Usenet by not top posting. That's a debated issue. Personally I prefer top posts when they don't have to answer a specific sentence of paragraph. -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:30:01 -0500, Pseudo Namen wrote:
The biggest problem I have with using Linux only is GAMES. 1. The Sims 2. Sim City 4 3. Sacrifice 4. Diblo 2 5. Dungeon Siege 6. Command & Conquer: Generals 7. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 8. Hitman 2 9. Tomb Raider:The Angel Of Darness 10. Evolva 11. Age Of Empires 12. Flight Simulater 2004 13. Raven Shield 14. Warcraft 3 Just to name a few. LOL well, if you use your machine to play commercial games, then by all means you should stay with Windows. Personally, I've never seen any of these games, and probably never will. There's probably about 50 games that comes with the linux distro I use. I've been using Linux for over 3 years now and still have only run a few of these. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:17:07 -0700, XS11E wrote:
Wes Newell wrote in newsan.2004.07.20.20.40.05.864247@TAKEOUTverizon .net: What type apps are you talking about? Quicken, VersaCheck and TurboTax or TaxCut. There are NO Linux equivalents, there aren't even any Windows equivalents. For example, Microsoft Money, Gnucash and Moneydance all say they will import Quicken files, they all lie. Not my files nor anyone else's files that are complex, I'm not the only one who's tried. Well, for Quicken there are 5 Linux programs listed as equivalents. I don't use any of these personal finance managers, but I've heard of people importing quicken files into gnucash. But you seem to be saying it's not evuivalent simple because they use a different storage format. Quicken will "sorta" run under Crossover Office but "sorta" does't cut it. So use a native program like gnucash. VersaCheck will run under Wine but it won't print. The ONLY function of VersaCheck is to print so.... ???? I don't use this stuff either, but found a linux app called Freecheck in a matter of seconds. There's other ways of printing checks, I can download MICR fonts and probably create some way to do it, but until Quicken runs under Linux I'll be running Windows. I don't play games, download music, surf the web, etc. My PC is for financial use only and Quicken is why it exists, w/o the three programs above I wouldn't even need a computer! Dang, wouldn't that be nice? ;-) Well then you should definately stay with Windows then if it does what you want and you are happy with it. But to say Linux sucks just because you can't move windows quicken files over to it is just a little on the absurd side don't you think.:-) -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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Pseudo Namen's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his
body we LOL. They don't work as flawsless as they do in Windows XP though, especially with DirectX settings turned all the way up. Some do, but you're right, most still have a few quirks. Remember, the programs you talk about are emulators, and thus cannot compete with Windows Native as far as speed, and high color and textures etc... I buy games for the graphics, speed and sound. I don't know of one game that works with EAX4 in Linux. Just because you can get something to work, doesn't mean it works as well. No, they are not. Emulates is software that takes place of a hardware component. Wine and its offshoots add an API layer for the execution of non native software. Even if you look at what the acronym means, you'd know "Wine Is Not an Emulator" (thats straight from the wine webpage). I've had stuff run under Wine just as fast as it does under Windows. Learn before commenting. |
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Pseudo Namen's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his
body we Read my other posts. Most of them are NOT top posted. So? Because you normally do it one way, doesnt mean that you didnt **** up that time. No matter what you call them, they are NOT native Windows So? NO games that are native Windows games work better in LINUX, that is pure bull****. Go believe your FUD. I'm a game developer for a small company, and I know that if you dont sloppily code your app, it will run about the same. I have seen a few rare instances where non native beat out native, but thats because shortcuts were used. |
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Ed Light's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body
we "Net Resident" wrote #1 Learn how to post on Usenet by not top posting. That's a debated issue. Personally I prefer top posts when they don't have to answer a specific sentence of paragraph. I inline/bottom post. That way, if someone doesnt get the previous posts (which happens on usenet), they can still have an idea of whats going on, plus I can coment on each individual part I want to. I dont have to lump all my things together |
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