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XS11E wrote:
Post Replies Here Please wrote in : http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/..._Story-01.html I'm a big fan of ASUS and was not aware of this. It's very hard for me to understand the article. They talk about using a K8V SE Deluxe motherboard which is what I have. Mandrake 10, 64bit RC1 found and installed ALL my hardware including the on-board sound, on-board NIC, etc. FWIW, MB = ASUS K8V SE Deluxe with latest BIOS and AMD64 3400 chip. Video card is ATI Radeon 7000. 1Gig (2 500MB sticks) of Fry's cheapest 3600 DDR RAM. Canon S900 Photo Printer, HP LaserJet 6L, Microtek V6upl scanner connected via USB2 port. HP DVD Writer 200i, LG DVD ROM. The on-board sound is SoundMax Integrated Digatal Audio and the LAN is Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000 Base-T adaptor, Copper RJ- 45. No problems with any of this. Conclusion, WTF is he talking about? I have also installed Fedora 64bit which did have a problem with my sound card, SuSE 64bit which had NO problems and Linspire (formerly Lindows) which installed all the hardware with no problems. Again, WTF is he talking about? BTW, ASUS has NO need or requirement to supply drivers for ANY OS and never has. Windows XP is running on the same system using drivers supplied by the manufacturers of the sound card and LAN, NOT drivers by ASUS. The drivers that run the sound card and LAN in Linux are supplied by various folks in the open source community or possibly by the same manufacturers who supplied the drivers for Windows XP so..... The total article is pure, unadulterated horsepucky from someone who has no idea of what he/she/it is talking about. Exactly what I thought reading this crap. I'm using a L5-series ASUS notebook, running debian 3.1 sarge (from dvd). The only hardware not yet compatible is the WLAN-network adapter. The author judges ASUS only because they're not T H E company changing the world of computing. Michael |
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"Ben Pope" wrote in
: Wes Newell wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:38:51 -0400, Locutus wrote: nothing wrong with that Linux sucks so why support it Really. Could you tell me why it sucks? And what OS should I be using, and why? It sucks because it takes a certain level of brain power to get it up and running. It sucks because for Average Joe, it's too complicated. It's great because it free, powerful, stable, provides you with choice and the community can, and do contribute in so many ways. It sucks because some of the applications I need are available only for Windows and/or MAC. I'm hoping that will change sometime in the future and the many, many people who *need* to run Windows will be able to go to Linux full time or, more likely, someday I'll finally decide to give up my attempts at learning Linux. Until then, I'm still quadruple booting.. sigh |
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XS11E's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body
we It sucks because some of the applications I need are available only for Windows and/or MAC. I'm hoping that will change sometime in the future and the many, many people who *need* to run Windows will be able to go to Linux full time or, more likely, someday I'll finally decide to give up my attempts at learning Linux. Have you tried Wine, Cedega (formally WineX), or Crossover Office? And do they have a decent Open Source alternative? Right now I have two apps that aren't linux friendly by the last two measures, 3d Studio Max 3.1 (yeah, its old but its what I could afford and dont really like the new versions as much), and Poser 4. 3dsmax craps out before it can get the loading splash screen up if I try with a Windows API of some sort (Wine, etc), and Poser loads, but the on screen graphical controls are invisible (but everything else, including the viewport, works). |
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Hellmark wrote in
newsan.2004.07.20.03.58.43.12618@swbell.****SPAM .net: XS11E's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body we It sucks because some of the applications I need are available only for Windows and/or MAC. I'm hoping that will change sometime in the future and the many, many people who *need* to run Windows will be able to go to Linux full time or, more likely, someday I'll finally decide to give up my attempts at learning Linux. Have you tried Wine, Cedega (formally WineX), or Crossover Office? Yes. |
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:17:28 -0500, Post Replies Here Please wrote:
http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/..._Story-01.html I'm a big fan of ASUS and was not aware of this. Whatever. The bigger issue is that Taiwanese companies are focused entirely on cost, quality and customer support take a back seat. A couple of years ago I developed a file server for a medium sized (~$500M) company. Dealing with Supermicro or 3Ware, which are Silicon Valley based, was easy. If there was a problem they did their best to address it. Dealing with Taiwan based companies was impossible, they simply didn't have the capacity or the inclination to respond to even a $500M company so you can imagine how bad the service for smaller OEMs must be like. Unfortunately SuperMicro doesn't make Opteron boards. |
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"General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message news On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:17:28 -0500, Post Replies Here Please wrote: http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/..._Story-01.html I'm a big fan of ASUS and was not aware of this. Whatever. The bigger issue is that Taiwanese companies are focused entirely on cost, quality and customer support take a back seat. A couple of years ago I developed a file server for a medium sized (~$500M) company. Dealing with Supermicro or 3Ware, which are Silicon Valley based, was easy. If there was a problem they did their best to address it. Dealing with Taiwan based companies was impossible, they simply didn't have the capacity or the inclination to respond to even a $500M company so you can imagine how bad the service for smaller OEMs must be like. Unfortunately SuperMicro doesn't make Opteron boards. I believe Supermicro doesn't make any AMD based motherboards. |
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XS11E wrote:
Hellmark wrote in newsan.2004.07.20.03.58.43.12618@swbell.****SPAM .net: XS11E's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body we It sucks because some of the applications I need are available only for Windows and/or MAC. I'm hoping that will change sometime in the future and the many, many people who *need* to run Windows will be able to go to Linux full time or, more likely, someday I'll finally decide to give up my attempts at learning Linux. Have you tried Wine, Cedega (formally WineX), or Crossover Office? Yes. 1. Tell me the file type (not the application, because there's no use using these crap-apps like microsoft office, adobde photoshop/cinemaXd, internet explorer when there are openoffice.org, gimp/blender, mozilla firefox doing the better work for you with the same file types) not supported by any GNU/Linux ported application 2. I do not hope that there is going to be a microsoft office for linux, but I do hope openoffice.org for win to be used more often. michael |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:48:14 -0700, XS11E wrote:
Hellmark wrote in newsan.2004.07.20.03.58.43.12618@swbell.****SPAM .net: XS11E's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body we It sucks because some of the applications I need are available only for Windows and/or MAC. I'm hoping that will change sometime in the future and the many, many people who *need* to run Windows will be able to go to Linux full time or, more likely, someday I'll finally decide to give up my attempts at learning Linux. Have you tried Wine, Cedega (formally WineX), or Crossover Office? Yes. What type apps are you talking about? Are they custom to support a proprietary product? if so, you may never see a Linux version. You also may never see a version for the next version of windows. But, AFAIK, there are linux equivalants of almost any win apps. Do you want to share the name of the app you are talking about. If not, then you might as well drop the subject. Here's a list (although certainly not complete) of linux to win equivalant apps. http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-l...en/table.shtml -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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"Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2004.07.20.20.40.05.864247@TAKEOUTverizon .net... On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:48:14 -0700, XS11E wrote: Hellmark wrote in newsan.2004.07.20.03.58.43.12618@swbell.****SPAM .net: XS11E's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body we It sucks because some of the applications I need are available only for Windows and/or MAC. I'm hoping that will change sometime in the future and the many, many people who *need* to run Windows will be able to go to Linux full time or, more likely, someday I'll finally decide to give up my attempts at learning Linux. Have you tried Wine, Cedega (formally WineX), or Crossover Office? Yes. What type apps are you talking about? Are they custom to support a proprietary product? if so, you may never see a Linux version. You also may never see a version for the next version of windows. But, AFAIK, there are linux equivalants of almost any win apps. Do you want to share the name of the app you are talking about. If not, then you might as well drop the subject. Here's a list (although certainly not complete) of linux to win equivalant apps. http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-l...en/table.shtml -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm The biggest problem I have with using Linux only is GAMES. 1. The Sims 2. Sim City 4 3. Sacrifice 4. Diblo 2 5. Dungeon Siege 6. Command & Conquer: Generals 7. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 8. Hitman 2 9. Tomb Raider:The Angel Of Darness 10. Evolva 11. Age Of Empires 12. Flight Simulater 2004 13. Raven Shield 14. Warcraft 3 Just to name a few. LOL |
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Pseudo Namen's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his
body we The biggest problem I have with using Linux only is GAMES. 1. The Sims There is a linux port 2. Sim City 4 has a linux port 6. Command & Conquer: Generals Hmm, cant remember if this one can run with the Wines. I know after EA bought out Eastwood, they started putting in antidebugger code, which messes with Wine. 7. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 11. Age Of Empires Runs with Cedega 4. Diblo 2 One of the games that is supposed to work flawlessly under Wine 12. Flight Simulater 2004 Can't run under Wine, cedega or Crossover Office 8. Hitman 2 First one works, but this one has some conflicts that make it not run. Think the anti-debugger issue 3. Sacrifice Runs under Cedega 5. Dungeon Siege Has some issues, but runs 9. Tomb Raider:The Angel Of Darness This one doesnt install, because the installer doesnt want to switch disks under Wine, but I'm not sure if a preexisting install would work 10. Evolva Installs but can't be run 13. Raven Shield Installs, runs, but has some problems with things like key configuration, etc. Since its based off UT2003, shouldnt be that much longer till its run able I dont think. 14. Warcraft 3 Again one of the ones that works flawlessly under cedega. What other games do you have questions on? Just because you think they dont have a native linux port, doesnt mean they won't run (plus as I said, a couple do have native ports). |
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