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Miss Perspicacia Tick's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged
through his body we Chris Turner wrote: sri - should NOT be run over 70c!!! It locked up in Publisher at 70° - it has hit 80° twice. I'm almost too scared to use it. I have the side off now and it's 55°. Wow, thats really strange. I was just talking to a friend of mine on how mines running exceptionally cool. I dont have all my fans in yet (only have the basic 5 {CPU, PSU, OTES, and 2 120mm's for intake and exhaust}, got 8 more to go), and when I first turn the system on its about 100 degrees for the first couple hours, and then after its been sitting on consistantly for a while, gets up to 120 degrees. Ok, here are my tips. 80mm fan atleast for your CPU, go 120 if you can (mines only a 80 though, but I am debating on switching). Have a good cooling setup in the PSU (mine ATM only has 1 80mm, but thats because I am borrowing it till the one I ordered comes in next week, which has 2 80mm's). NEVER have just the PSU and CPU fans (have atleast a good intake and exhaust fan), alot of people nowadays aint really doin that. Usual way for that is intake fans up front and down low, and exhaust in back in the rear. Have qfan disabled, I had it on for about 2 minutes and it had already shot up 5 degrees with in that time on the CPU, and 10 degrees on everything else. Also, get more fans. Never can have too many. But then again, I go for over kill, and I barely have any fans in my system currently (by my standards) and I can hear it across the house. -- Hellmark -If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bull****! |
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"Jason Cothran" wrote in message news If you are running cool enough with the sides off and overheating that badly with the sides on, it is obviously just a case of poor case cooling. Whats the ambient temp within the case when powered up....again if thats hot then the cpu will be that plus more...the turbo setting is in the BIOS - can not remeber where abouts look later. I spoke with AMD ref this issue - basically on my rig if turbo was on the VDD shot up to 1.75 volts and combine that with qfan and all temps rocketed! It sounds though as the others have pointed out, your case needs more efficient air flow - it's not expensive to set up more fans. Come back on your room temps etc - if yur room is 30c then your air cooling efficiency goes down. |
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Hellmark wrote:
Miss Perspicacia Tick's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body we Chris Turner wrote: sri - should NOT be run over 70c!!! It locked up in Publisher at 70° - it has hit 80° twice. I'm almost too scared to use it. I have the side off now and it's 55°. Wow, thats really strange. I was just talking to a friend of mine on how mines running exceptionally cool. I dont have all my fans in yet (only have the basic 5 {CPU, PSU, OTES, and 2 120mm's for intake and exhaust}, got 8 more to go), and when I first turn the system on its about 100 degrees for the first couple hours, and then after its been sitting on consistantly for a while, gets up to 120 degrees. Ok, here are my tips. 80mm fan atleast for your CPU, go 120 if you can (mines only a 80 though, but I am debating on switching). Have a good cooling setup in the PSU (mine ATM only has 1 80mm, but thats because I am borrowing it till the one I ordered comes in next week, which has 2 80mm's). NEVER have just the PSU and CPU fans (have atleast a good intake and exhaust fan), alot of people nowadays aint really doin that. Usual way for that is intake fans up front and down low, and exhaust in back in the rear. Have qfan disabled, I had it on for about 2 minutes and it had already shot up 5 degrees with in that time on the CPU, and 10 degrees on everything else. OK I will buy a 120 (not that I think there's room), but that means losing it for a week, and I have work to do! GRR!! Also, get more fans. Never can have too many. But then again, I go for over kill, and I barely have any fans in my system currently (by my standards) and I can hear it across the house. I /CAN'T/ have any more fans - there's nowhere to put them! There's only space for the one exhaust fan! |
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Wes Newell wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:12:24 +0100, Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote: I have an FX-53 based system on an SK8V board in a CoolerMaster Wave Master case. The HSF is a Swiftech MCX64-V with a Delta fan and the PSU is a 480W Tagan. The rest of the spec is as follows: - 1GB RAM 3xSATA HDs (2xRaptor in a RAID 0 array plus a WDC) 9800XT 256MB Audigy 2 Platinum Pro XS Plextor 708A Samsung combi I have a *serious* issue with overheating - and I do mean *SERIOUS*. With the side panel on, it *IDLES* at between 60-65°C (140-149°F) and once, when I'm running it with the side off at the moment and it's stabilised at 45°C (113°F) - but I don't want to have to do that forever! I'm hoping The problem (at least one) is obvious from the above 2 lines. Fix your case cooling first. Well, DUH! I think I could have figured that out myself! THAT'S what I'm trying to do! |
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Chris Turner wrote:
"Jason Cothran" wrote in message news If you are running cool enough with the sides off and overheating that badly with the sides on, it is obviously just a case of poor case cooling. Whats the ambient temp within the case when powered up....again if thats hot then the cpu will be that plus more...the turbo setting is in the BIOS - can not remeber where abouts look later. I spoke with AMD ref this issue - basically on my rig if turbo was on the VDD shot up to 1.75 volts and combine that with qfan and all temps rocketed! It sounds though as the others have pointed out, your case needs more efficient air flow - it's not expensive to set up more fans. Come back on your room temps etc - if yur room is 30c then your air cooling efficiency goes down. This is the coolest room in the house. The radiator (which isn't on at the moment, it's too warm) is on the opposite wall to the desk, and it can't be more than 21°-22°C at the warmest. If you're familiar with that case, you'll know there isn't any room for more fans - unless you can tell me where to site them! The case temperature with the side off is 28°C - on it's fluctuates between 34° and 35°. Do you think a 120mm on the HS would be a good idea (I'd have to send it back to Ben for that, I can't do it myself). All advice sought and gratefully received. Thanks Worried |
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General Schvantzkoph wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:12:24 +0100, Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote: I have an FX-53 based system on an SK8V board in a CoolerMaster Wave Master case. The HSF is a Swiftech MCX64-V with a Delta fan and the PSU is a 480W Tagan. The rest of the spec is as follows: - How many case fans do you have and how are they oriented? If you have fans on both sides of the case you want to be blowing air in on one side and sucking it out on the other. Check to see if you have good airflow through the case. It also could be as simple as not having enough fans or having fans that are too weak. You have a lot of very hot components in that box, you'll need to move a lot of air through it in order to cool everything adequately. There is only one exhaust fan, and I believe it to be oriented the correct way (it's part of the case, not something that was screwed on as an extra, so if it isn't, that's CoolerMaster's fault!) As I keep reiterating, there isn't anywhere for any more fans to go, oh *WHY* did I let him talk me into this case?! Maybe I'll just have to pretend it's a 100% Perspex panel - I was going to mod this when I had more cash (green case fan(s), a purple on the HS), but I don't feel I can do that now as it would just generate more heat - especially with the strip lights). Oh well, guess I don't need to mod it - I'd just like it 20°C cooler! That's not asking much is it?! Thanks Worried |
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"Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message ... Chris Turner wrote: "Jason Cothran" wrote in message news If you are running cool enough with the sides off and overheating that badly with the sides on, it is obviously just a case of poor case cooling. Whats the ambient temp within the case when powered up....again if thats hot then the cpu will be that plus more...the turbo setting is in the BIOS - can not remeber where abouts look later. I spoke with AMD ref this issue - basically on my rig if turbo was on the VDD shot up to 1.75 volts and combine that with qfan and all temps rocketed! It sounds though as the others have pointed out, your case needs more efficient air flow - it's not expensive to set up more fans. Come back on your room temps etc - if yur room is 30c then your air cooling efficiency goes down. This is the coolest room in the house. The radiator (which isn't on at the moment, it's too warm) is on the opposite wall to the desk, and it can't be more than 21°-22°C at the warmest. If you're familiar with that case, you'll know there isn't any room for more fans - unless you can tell me where to site them! The case temperature with the side off is 28°C - on it's fluctuates between 34° and 35°. Do you think a 120mm on the HS would be a good idea (I'd have to send it back to Ben for that, I can't do it myself). All advice sought and gratefully received. Thanks Worried So this is the version with 2 80mm fans in the front, one 80mm fan in the back, and a top section for another 80mm fan? Firstly, I wouldnt use the fan in the top, I would keep that block'd off. Then make sure the other 80mm fans are working correctly.. Front 2 fans Suck air in, Rear fan blows air out. If that's not helping then you have some other problem somewhere like the heatsink not installed correctly or somethings damaged. |
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"Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message ... General Schvantzkoph wrote: On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:12:24 +0100, Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote: I have an FX-53 based system on an SK8V board in a CoolerMaster Wave Master case. The HSF is a Swiftech MCX64-V with a Delta fan and the PSU is a 480W Tagan. The rest of the spec is as follows: - How many case fans do you have and how are they oriented? If you have fans on both sides of the case you want to be blowing air in on one side and sucking it out on the other. Check to see if you have good airflow through the case. It also could be as simple as not having enough fans or having fans that are too weak. You have a lot of very hot components in that box, you'll need to move a lot of air through it in order to cool everything adequately. There is only one exhaust fan, and I believe it to be oriented the correct way (it's part of the case, not something that was screwed on as an extra, so if it isn't, that's CoolerMaster's fault!) As I keep reiterating, there isn't anywhere for any more fans to go, oh *WHY* did I let him talk me into this case?! Maybe I'll just have to pretend it's a 100% Perspex panel - I was going to mod this when I had more cash (green case fan(s), a purple on the HS), but I don't feel I can do that now as it would just generate more heat - especially with the strip lights). Oh well, guess I don't need to mod it - I'd just like it 20°C cooler! That's not asking much is it?! Thanks Worried See my other post, Intake fans can be more important than exaust fans. |
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Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
The case temperature with the side off is 28°C - on it's fluctuates between 34° and 35°. Do you think a 120mm on the HS would be a good idea (I'd have to send it back to Ben for that, I can't do it myself). Thats interesting. Case temps rise 6°C with the side on, but CPU temps rise over 20°C? Are you sure? So your CPU temps are over 30°C hotter than your case temp? Just to confirm this: Under load (say Prim95 Torture test for half an hour), what is your diode temp, case temp, and room temp? What about with the side off? Ben -- A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups. I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String... |
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Ben Pope wrote:
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote: The case temperature with the side off is 28°C - on it's fluctuates between 34° and 35°. Do you think a 120mm on the HS would be a good idea (I'd have to send it back to Ben for that, I can't do it myself). Thats interesting. Case temps rise 6°C with the side on, but CPU temps rise over 20°C? Are you sure? Does the pope **** in the wood? Is the Bear Catholic?! or something... So your CPU temps are over 30°C hotter than your case temp? Correct. Just to confirm this: Under load (say Prim95 Torture test for half an hour), what is your diode temp, case temp, and room temp? What about with the side off? Ben I darest not do it, in case I invalidate the warranty. I'll have to ask Ben if it's safe and if he'll replace anything that melts! There is a 15°C difference between case and CPU now (28° vs 43°). |
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