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Old November 24th 03, 03:20 AM
Seahorse
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Following prompt first aid from the medic "J.Clarke"
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1. Don't cross post.


Wrong. Cross post to all relevant newsgroups. That is the way USENET
is intended to work and that way everybody sees the post, everybody sees
the responses, and there is no duplication of effort.


Bad nettiquette as you well know. It does cause duplication of
effort. Scattergun posting is pointless.

2. Xmas 04.


Wrong again. You need it when you encounter an application that uses
features not present in DirectX versions earlier than 9, you want to use
those features, and you find that enabling them on a board without
hardware acceleration of those features (thus forcing use of the
software implementation that runs on the main CPU) causes an
unacceptable performance penalty.

That means that for some folks the answer is "never" while for others
it's "yesterday", and for the rest it's somewhere in between.

To the OP the answer is "spend the bucks for an upgrade when you
encounter something that causes you to notice the lack".


Considering the distinct lack of games that actually implement any DX9
features - 2 to date I believe, it would hardly seem worth the effort.
By the time they become common place your card will be one if not 2
generations out of date. The mystery features you refer to are more
likely than not disabled rather than CPu rendered, but like I said,
its not likely that he has a game requiring it hence my realistic time
estimate.

DX9 comparability is like AGP X8 on a box. Designed to shift units
rather than provide anything useful today...
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Old November 24th 03, 03:22 AM
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Following prompt first aid from the medic "Tim Miser"
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1. Don't cross post.


Why shouldn't one cross post?

Because it's rude. See below...

http://www.netlingo.com/right.cfm?term=cross%20post

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Old November 24th 03, 03:31 AM
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On 23 Nov 2003 12:27:35 -0800, (John) wrote:

Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any
fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use
Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I
play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200).

Are we talking 3-4 months maybe?

I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an
upgrade.


Do the upgrade when your games become slow. You still have a decent
video card.

I just replaced my Ti4200 with the ATI 9800PRO, for my current games -
there isn't much difference in performance.

Halo looks a little bit better with the DX9 ATI card, the SUN effects
in the trees is kinda cool - but adds little to the game itself. I
had finished HALO with my Ti4200 with good frame rates in 1024x768.

When Half Life2 comes out, then that WILL BE THE TIME to upgrade, well
most likly anyways. By then, the ATI-9600XT should be about $150, or
replaced with something else.

Check this out:
http://www.ati.com/gitg/promotions/hl2offer/index.html

Hows that for a killer deal? I got my "coupon" for free, a friend
who doesn't play games much but wanted a good card got a cheap 9600se
which came with it

But as of this time, I have yet to see a game that really looks vastly
better on an DX9 card vs DX8.... now HALO on a GF2 looks like PURE
CRAP.


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Old November 24th 03, 04:37 AM
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"John" wrote in message
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Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any
fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use
Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I
play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200).

Are we talking 3-4 months maybe?

I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an
upgrade.


That's easy, when your games are too slow to play.

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Old November 24th 03, 04:43 AM
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"Seahorse" wrote in message
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Following prompt first aid from the medic "Tim Miser"
managed to scrawl the following bloodstained
message On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:45:17 GMT:

1. Don't cross post.


Why shouldn't one cross post?

Because it's rude. See below...

http://www.netlingo.com/right.cfm?term=cross%20post


All it said was that it is sometimes frowned upon. Frowned upon by whom? I
saw a lot of relevant newsgroups included - it wasn't like it was sent to
alt.suicide-methods or alt.apocalypse...


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Old November 24th 03, 08:39 AM
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:27:58 GMT, "Robert Pendell"
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"Darthy" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:49:41 GMT, (John Lewis)
wrote:

Updating hardware before the software is available
is not a clever use of monetary resources.


Agreed... because sometimes, the hardware is outdated.

Consider those who rushed out to buy cards specifically
for anicipated HL2 needs. With HL2 delayed for 6 months,
another generation of video cards will be here, and the
current generation will be much less expensive.

John Lewis


How about those who bought 5900 / 9800 to play Doom3 or even Unreal2
engined games? Doom3 is way late, and for the most part - my Ti4200
handled the modern games quite well... not getting 100fps, but still
good.

Now days, the 5900 is finally hitting below $200... think of those
suckers who blew $500 on those first GF-5800 Ultra cards almost a year
ago - which has trouble playing real DX9 games faster than ATI's $175
video card.


Which is why I don't jump the gun on hardware upgrades. I watch and see
where it goes first.


I wait until a game I want needs an upgrade, and then do it.

Upgrading in aticipation of a game's release is a waste of money -
especially it the game doesn't actually come out for another 6 months.

6 months is a long time in the PC hardware world, and prices dropa
lot.

On Friday I say a graphics card with 256mb of onboard memory for
£100...

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Old November 24th 03, 09:05 AM
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"Seahorse" wrote in message
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Following prompt first aid from the medic "Tim Miser"
managed to scrawl the following bloodstained
message On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:45:17 GMT:

1. Don't cross post.


Why shouldn't one cross post?

Because it's rude. See below...

http://www.netlingo.com/right.cfm?term=cross%20post


I know what cross posting is thank you very much, but you didn't answer my
question which was WHY shouldn't one cross post. Because it's frowned upon?
Why is it frowned upon?

-Tim


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Old November 24th 03, 09:07 AM
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"Mark Morrison" wrote in message
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I wait until a game I want needs an upgrade, and then do it.

Upgrading in aticipation of a game's release is a waste of money -
especially it the game doesn't actually come out for another 6 months.

6 months is a long time in the PC hardware world, and prices dropa
lot.



I couldn't agree with you more.


 




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