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Old December 13th 13, 03:34 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Default Graphic card for Windows Server 2003

"Augustus" wrote in message
news:nIyzj.66096$w57.8103@edtnps90...
Have you ever /developped/ SERVER software ? Have ever had to debug your
software in a real situation, that is using the same OS as the customer
will
use it ? Have you ever considered working confortably on a server ?


Yes. I have, and continue to do so actually. Every day. I work in the IT
department where the primary server OS used Windows Server 2003 and SQL
server. Not that you'll likely believe that anyway, however...if your're
trying to emulate end user and client servers to debug your code by
installing Windows Server 2003 ask yourself this question: How many

clients
/ businesses have you ever seen in your life that run Windows Server 2003

on
a non-dedicated server? And how many clients have you got that use non-m/b
embedded video cards in their servers? And if client emulation is your
goal, why are not running your OS on an actual server and server board?

The
board you mention has no RAID, no ECC memory, no Xeon support, etc. The
embedded IGMA 950 graphics supports up to 2048x1536. I've lost count of

the
number of Windows Server 2000 and 2003 reisntalls I've done, and finding a
proper graphics driver has never been an issue.


Honestly, this is one of the stupidest and most short-sighted posts I have
read. Why is it manufacturers of video cards think that there is some
federal law that mandates end users to use the lowest common denominator
software? EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPER IN OUR COMPANY RUNS WINDOWS SERVER AS
THEIR DESKTOP OPERATING SYSTEM. They all INSIST on this because they WANT
the ADDITIONAL CAPABILITY in the server version of the software. Examples
of such capabilities are the ability to terminal service into another
developer's computer WHILE THAT COMPUTER HAS A DIFFERENT USER ON ITS
CONSOLE. You cannot do this with Windows XP or Windows 7.

Instead of trying to browbeat people like the original poster, why not start
listening to customers and what they are telling you? Some of us WANT a
SERVER operating system on our DESKTOP COMPUTERs and YES WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT
VERY VERY CAREFULLY AND MADE A GOOD DECISION.

Didn't Sun Microsystems create a pretty big company by putting a server
operating system - UNIX - onto the desktops of engineers and programmers?
Why is it no one can think clearly about the reasons why people would want
to do the same thing with Windows Server?

Absolutely frustrating to read nonsense like the above post. My response
is five years too late, but I'm facing the same problem now of upgrading
video cards on workstations running server, and I'm seeing that nVidia in
its infinite stupidity wants to dumb down all of its users to use the worst
common denominator software possible.

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Old December 13th 13, 08:45 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Default Graphic card for Windows Server 2003

My favorite story about the idiocy of software manufacturers who
deliberately sabotage their software working on Windows Server, and force
users to use Windows XP or Windows 7/8:

I was trying to install an Adobe product on a user's personal workstation,
which was running Windows Server. We had a requirement for that user that
other people be able to login to her computer remotely via Terminal
Services, so there wasn't really a better choice. In any case, the support
staff at Adobe went through the same flawed thinking process as displayed by
the user below feeding nonsense about how Windows Server was a "Server
Operating System" and no end user should ever want to use it.

Jump forward two weeks: I contacted a friend who works in engineering at
Adobe. I complained to him about this. He started laughing. What's
funny, I asked? "All of our developers of that product run Windows Server
as the operating system on their development machines." So the
developers in the company were all using Windows Server, because they wanted
the FEATURES in the server product on their personal desktop, but the
geniuses who run the marketing department made the decision that no one else
should ever use a Server OS. Brilliant!!!

nVidia's marketing department is apparently filled to the brim with such
geniuses.

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"W" wrote in message
...
"Augustus" wrote in message
news:nIyzj.66096$w57.8103@edtnps90...
Have you ever /developped/ SERVER software ? Have ever had to debug

your
software in a real situation, that is using the same OS as the

customer
will
use it ? Have you ever considered working confortably on a server ?


Yes. I have, and continue to do so actually. Every day. I work in the IT
department where the primary server OS used Windows Server 2003 and SQL
server. Not that you'll likely believe that anyway, however...if your're
trying to emulate end user and client servers to debug your code by
installing Windows Server 2003 ask yourself this question: How many

clients
/ businesses have you ever seen in your life that run Windows Server

2003
on
a non-dedicated server? And how many clients have you got that use

non-m/b
embedded video cards in their servers? And if client emulation is your
goal, why are not running your OS on an actual server and server board?

The
board you mention has no RAID, no ECC memory, no Xeon support, etc. The
embedded IGMA 950 graphics supports up to 2048x1536. I've lost count of

the
number of Windows Server 2000 and 2003 reisntalls I've done, and finding

a
proper graphics driver has never been an issue.


Honestly, this is one of the stupidest and most short-sighted posts I have
read. Why is it manufacturers of video cards think that there is some
federal law that mandates end users to use the lowest common denominator
software? EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPER IN OUR COMPANY RUNS WINDOWS SERVER AS
THEIR DESKTOP OPERATING SYSTEM. They all INSIST on this because they

WANT
the ADDITIONAL CAPABILITY in the server version of the software.

Examples
of such capabilities are the ability to terminal service into another
developer's computer WHILE THAT COMPUTER HAS A DIFFERENT USER ON ITS
CONSOLE. You cannot do this with Windows XP or Windows 7.

Instead of trying to browbeat people like the original poster, why not

start
listening to customers and what they are telling you? Some of us WANT a
SERVER operating system on our DESKTOP COMPUTERs and YES WE THOUGHT ABOUT

IT
VERY VERY CAREFULLY AND MADE A GOOD DECISION.

Didn't Sun Microsystems create a pretty big company by putting a server
operating system - UNIX - onto the desktops of engineers and programmers?
Why is it no one can think clearly about the reasons why people would want
to do the same thing with Windows Server?

Absolutely frustrating to read nonsense like the above post. My response
is five years too late, but I'm facing the same problem now of upgrading
video cards on workstations running server, and I'm seeing that nVidia in
its infinite stupidity wants to dumb down all of its users to use the

worst
common denominator software possible.

--
W




 




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