Fastest CPU in April

DaveW wrote:
The next major changes from Intel, after all the changes in their CPU line
in the last 6 months, is not expected until summer.

--
DaveW

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"wizzywiz" wrote in message
ps.com...
Howdy.....I know the Core Duo and Woodcrest are on top now......just
wondering what people may know about things coming down the pike by
April or May.....

Thanks much.....



What is expected by next summer?

Tony Hill wrote:
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:14:34 -0500, daytripper
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 16:11:52 -0800, "DaveW" wrote:

"wizzywiz" wrote in message
oups.com...
Howdy.....I know the Core Duo and Woodcrest are on top now......just
wondering what people may know about things coming down the pike by
April or May.....

Thanks much.....


The next major changes from Intel, after all the changes in their CPU line
in the last 6 months, is not expected until summer.

Really? Is the quad-core out already then?

Yes. The Core 2 Extreme QX6700 was released about a month ago. It is
super expensive ($1700 at Newegg) and not all that widely distributed,
but it is available. The quad core Xeon 5300 series is also
theoretically available, although I'm not sure you can actually buy
one just yet. Dell lists them on their websites but with their "May
delay your shipping date" warning.

/daytripper (no way Intel stands still for six+ months, son...)

The biggest change will be the marketting change of the Quad-core
desktop chips. Right now quad-core is only available as the Extremely
Expensive Edition. Sometime in early 2007 Intel will release the Core
2 Quad that will push quad-core down to the high-end and maybe even
into the top of the mid-range of the processor price/performance
spectrum. However this isn't actually a *new* processor, more just a
change in branding and clock speeds of the current top-end desktop
chip.

The only really new chip I would expect Intel to release in the
semi-near future is a Core-based Celeron processor. Right now all
Celerons are either based off the Pentium 4 architecture (all desktop
and some mobile Celerons) or the Pentium M architecture (only for some
mobile chips). Exactly when this Core-based Celeron will arrive and
in what guise (single vs. dual core, desktop vs. mobile) is still
unclear. My guess though is that it will be a single-core mobile chip
first with single and dual-core desktop chips not arriving until Q3 or
Q4 of 2007.

As far as I can tell Intel has not released their 2007 processor
roadmap yet, so we're kinda shooting in the dark on this one.
--
Tony Hill
hilla underscore 20 at yahoo dot ca



Do they do such a thing? Release a map?

On 5 Dec 2006 23:05:41 -0800, "wizzywiz" wrote:


Tony Hill wrote:
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:14:34 -0500, daytripper
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 16:11:52 -0800, "DaveW" wrote:

"wizzywiz" wrote in message
oups.com...
Howdy.....I know the Core Duo and Woodcrest are on top now......just
wondering what people may know about things coming down the pike by
April or May.....

Thanks much.....


The next major changes from Intel, after all the changes in their CPU line
in the last 6 months, is not expected until summer.

Really? Is the quad-core out already then?

Yes. The Core 2 Extreme QX6700 was released about a month ago. It is
super expensive ($1700 at Newegg) and not all that widely distributed,
but it is available. The quad core Xeon 5300 series is also
theoretically available, although I'm not sure you can actually buy
one just yet. Dell lists them on their websites but with their "May
delay your shipping date" warning.

/daytripper (no way Intel stands still for six+ months, son...)

The biggest change will be the marketting change of the Quad-core
desktop chips. Right now quad-core is only available as the Extremely
Expensive Edition. Sometime in early 2007 Intel will release the Core
2 Quad that will push quad-core down to the high-end and maybe even
into the top of the mid-range of the processor price/performance
spectrum. However this isn't actually a *new* processor, more just a
change in branding and clock speeds of the current top-end desktop
chip.

The only really new chip I would expect Intel to release in the
semi-near future is a Core-based Celeron processor. Right now all
Celerons are either based off the Pentium 4 architecture (all desktop
and some mobile Celerons) or the Pentium M architecture (only for some
mobile chips). Exactly when this Core-based Celeron will arrive and
in what guise (single vs. dual core, desktop vs. mobile) is still
unclear. My guess though is that it will be a single-core mobile chip
first with single and dual-core desktop chips not arriving until Q3 or
Q4 of 2007.

As far as I can tell Intel has not released their 2007 processor
roadmap yet, so we're kinda shooting in the dark on this one.
--
Tony Hill
hilla underscore 20 at yahoo dot ca



Do they do such a thing? Release a map?

Of course. Actually, many maps, some for their customers (ie: companies that
design systems around Intel components), and some for the media (the highly
redacted versions ;-)

/daytripper

In article ,
says...
On 5 Dec 2006 23:05:41 -0800, "wizzywiz" wrote:


Tony Hill wrote:
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:14:34 -0500, daytripper
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 16:11:52 -0800, "DaveW" wrote:

"wizzywiz" wrote in message
oups.com...
Howdy.....I know the Core Duo and Woodcrest are on top now......just
wondering what people may know about things coming down the pike by
April or May.....

Thanks much.....


The next major changes from Intel, after all the changes in their CPU line
in the last 6 months, is not expected until summer.

Really? Is the quad-core out already then?

Yes. The Core 2 Extreme QX6700 was released about a month ago. It is
super expensive ($1700 at Newegg) and not all that widely distributed,
but it is available. The quad core Xeon 5300 series is also
theoretically available, although I'm not sure you can actually buy
one just yet. Dell lists them on their websites but with their "May
delay your shipping date" warning.

/daytripper (no way Intel stands still for six+ months, son...)

The biggest change will be the marketting change of the Quad-core
desktop chips. Right now quad-core is only available as the Extremely
Expensive Edition. Sometime in early 2007 Intel will release the Core
2 Quad that will push quad-core down to the high-end and maybe even
into the top of the mid-range of the processor price/performance
spectrum. However this isn't actually a *new* processor, more just a
change in branding and clock speeds of the current top-end desktop
chip.

The only really new chip I would expect Intel to release in the
semi-near future is a Core-based Celeron processor. Right now all
Celerons are either based off the Pentium 4 architecture (all desktop
and some mobile Celerons) or the Pentium M architecture (only for some
mobile chips). Exactly when this Core-based Celeron will arrive and
in what guise (single vs. dual core, desktop vs. mobile) is still
unclear. My guess though is that it will be a single-core mobile chip
first with single and dual-core desktop chips not arriving until Q3 or
Q4 of 2007.

As far as I can tell Intel has not released their 2007 processor
roadmap yet, so we're kinda shooting in the dark on this one.
--
Tony Hill
hilla underscore 20 at yahoo dot ca



Do they do such a thing? Release a map?

Of course. Actually, many maps, some for their customers (ie: companies that
design systems around Intel components), and some for the media (the highly
redacted versions ;-)

Another set for the processor developers and a completely different
version for the HQ PHBs. ;-)

--
Keith

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:05:30 -0500, Tony Hill
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:14:34 -0500, daytripper
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 16:11:52 -0800, "DaveW" wrote:

"wizzywiz" wrote in message
roups.com...
Howdy.....I know the Core Duo and Woodcrest are on top now......just
wondering what people may know about things coming down the pike by
April or May.....

Thanks much.....


The next major changes from Intel, after all the changes in their CPU line
in the last 6 months, is not expected until summer.

Really? Is the quad-core out already then?

Yes. The Core 2 Extreme QX6700 was released about a month ago. It is
super expensive ($1700 at Newegg) and not all that widely distributed,
but it is available. The quad core Xeon 5300 series is also
theoretically available, although I'm not sure you can actually buy
one just yet. Dell lists them on their websites but with their "May
delay your shipping date" warning.

/daytripper (no way Intel stands still for six+ months, son...)

The biggest change will be the marketting change of the Quad-core
desktop chips. Right now quad-core is only available as the Extremely
Expensive Edition. Sometime in early 2007 Intel will release the Core
2 Quad that will push quad-core down to the high-end and maybe even
into the top of the mid-range of the processor price/performance
spectrum. However this isn't actually a *new* processor, more just a
change in branding and clock speeds of the current top-end desktop
chip.

The only really new chip I would expect Intel to release in the
semi-near future is a Core-based Celeron processor. Right now all
Celerons are either based off the Pentium 4 architecture (all desktop
and some mobile Celerons) or the Pentium M architecture (only for some
mobile chips). Exactly when this Core-based Celeron will arrive and
in what guise (single vs. dual core, desktop vs. mobile) is still
unclear. My guess though is that it will be a single-core mobile chip
first with single and dual-core desktop chips not arriving until Q3 or
Q4 of 2007.

I thought tthis was where the Pentium name was to be err, recalled/recycled
for use as the low end chip in the Core 2 series, with a name of Pentium
E2000 series... 800MT/s FSB and 1MB shared L2. IOW goodbye Celeron...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...115223825.html

The biggest Intel change *could* be the dropping of P4 - why use the same
name for the low-end chip? Quite why they contiinue with P4 is a bit of a
mystery which *could* explained IMO by the fact that C2D was pushed out in
panic mode... further supported by the paucity of useful docs available for
it.

--
Rgds, George Macdonald

I thought tthis was where the Pentium name was to be err,
recalled/recycled
for use as the low end chip in the Core 2 series, with a name of Pentium
E2000 series... 800MT/s FSB and 1MB shared L2. IOW goodbye Celeron...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...115223825.html

The biggest Intel change *could* be the dropping of P4 - why use the same
name for the low-end chip? Quite why they contiinue with P4 is a bit of a
mystery which *could* explained IMO by the fact that C2D was pushed out in
panic mode... further supported by the paucity of useful docs available
for
it.

--
Rgds, George Macdonald

Well, the Pentium name has been around for over 10yrs and is forever
attached to Intel as their flagship processor. Name recognition probably
comes into play there i.e. Pentium C2D. Celeron has always been the bin that
all the budget chips have been tossed into and I agree that it is probably
gone. The mobile Core Duos and single cores will probably all fall under the
E2000 (maybe M2000 for mobiles?) category, along with the 1mb cache
processors and single cores. The "D" I6xx EM64T series is probably dead too.
Good riddance.......:-)

Ed

Ed Medlin wrote:

Well, the Pentium name has been around for over 10yrs and is forever
attached to Intel as their flagship processor. Name recognition probably
comes into play there i.e. Pentium C2D.

On the other hand "been around a long time" is not necessarily a good
thing in the market, which likes "New! Dump your old, obsolete widget
(even if it still works fine) and buy the new improved widget!"

wizzywiz wrote:
wrote:
SNIP

When my program takes days to execute, there is definately a need for
more cpu power.

Or a better program/programmer.

dMn

On 5 Dec 2006 23:05:41 -0800, "wizzywiz" wrote:
As far as I can tell Intel has not released their 2007 processor
roadmap yet, so we're kinda shooting in the dark on this one.

Do they do such a thing? Release a map?

Yup, available he

http://www.intel.com/products/roadmap/

They actually have other roadmaps that are not quite so publicly
available as well and occasionally those will leak out to the media.
--
Tony Hill
hilla underscore 20 at yahoo dot ca

On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:36:45 -0500, George Macdonald
wrote:
The only really new chip I would expect Intel to release in the
semi-near future is a Core-based Celeron processor. Right now all
Celerons are either based off the Pentium 4 architecture (all desktop
and some mobile Celerons) or the Pentium M architecture (only for some
mobile chips). Exactly when this Core-based Celeron will arrive and
in what guise (single vs. dual core, desktop vs. mobile) is still
unclear. My guess though is that it will be a single-core mobile chip
first with single and dual-core desktop chips not arriving until Q3 or
Q4 of 2007.

I thought tthis was where the Pentium name was to be err, recalled/recycled
for use as the low end chip in the Core 2 series, with a name of Pentium
E2000 series... 800MT/s FSB and 1MB shared L2. IOW goodbye Celeron...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...115223825.html

My understanding was that BOTH Pentium and Celeron name would be used
for low-end Core-based chips (Pentium first and then Celeron later).
However such things are difficulty to keep track of, even for a geek
such as myself!

The biggest Intel change *could* be the dropping of P4 - why use the same
name for the low-end chip? Quite why they contiinue with P4 is a bit of a
mystery which *could* explained IMO by the fact that C2D was pushed out in
panic mode... further supported by the paucity of useful docs available for
it.

The "Pentium 4" name has already been dropped. Intel got rid of the
'4' part a little while back with the "Pentium D" and "Pentium Extreme
Edition".

Beyond that though, I suspect that they'll keep the Pentium name
around for a bit for brand recognition. "Pentium" has to be one of
the strongest brands out there, certainly when it comes to computer
brands.
--
Tony Hill
hilla underscore 20 at yahoo dot ca