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"Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2005.07.03.09.14.16.67317@TAKEOUTverizon. net... As for each apps support, you've got to be kidding. No, I really wasn't. |
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Tim wrote:
64 bit architecture, multiple cores, it's all wonderful stuff. But as everyone probably knows, without a mainstream 64bit OS with solid drivers, without 64bit apps optimized for multithreading, it's all a bit premature. I know that this technology has its advantages now but when will it be fully utilized? Does anyone care to predict how long until software/OS developers make the complete transition? Will Longhorn be 64bit by default or will there be a special 64bit version? (the way XP Pro is just getting now) All thoughts appreciated. I don't see what this obsession with making use of the "full 64-bits" is all about. Do people complain they are not utilizing the full features of a 100-storey building, if they are done below the 100th storey? When the 32-bit x86 era started, a lot of its biggest advantages had nothing to do with 32-bit software, they were features to improve the life of older 16-bit apps. For example they introduced the Virtual-8086 mode, which basically allowed you to multitask 16-bit DOS apps using a 32-bit hypervisor layer sitting over top of it. Similarly that's the most likely initial usage scenario that we'll see with 64-bit OSes -- as a better 32-bit platform. For example, 32-bit programs which are limited to 2GB to 3GB of memory right now (due to the memory footprint of the configured OS), will now see the full 4GB to themselves. And multiple 32-bit programs will see a full 4GB to themselves. Yousuf Khan |
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 05:37:34 -0400, Tim wrote:
"Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2005.07.03.09.14.16.67317@TAKEOUTverizon. net... As for each apps support, you've got to be kidding. No, I really wasn't. With probably close to 50,000 linux programs you expect someone to list the ones with multi core CPU support. Start dreaming, you'll get a better answer.:-) Same for Win. -- KT133 MB, CPU @2400MHz (24x100): SIS755 MB CPU @2330MHz (10x233) Need good help? Provide all system info with question. My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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so what Linux 64 bit programs do you use and why?
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"Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2005.07.03.16.45.15.722233@TAKEOUTverizon .net... On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 05:37:34 -0400, Tim wrote: With probably close to 50,000 linux programs you expect someone to list the ones with multi core CPU support. Start dreaming, you'll get a better answer.:-) Same for Win. My question pertained to the programs YOU use, chief. I said "YOUR APPS". With your reading comprehension I would be dreaming to expect you to understand the question. |
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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message ... I don't see what this obsession with making use of the "full 64-bits" is all about. Do people complain they are not utilizing the full features of a 100-storey building, if they are done below the 100th storey? Obsession? It's a simple question about transition time. When the 32-bit x86 era started, a lot of its biggest advantages had nothing to do with 32-bit software, they were features to improve the life of older 16-bit apps. For example they introduced the Virtual-8086 mode, which basically allowed you to multitask 16-bit DOS apps using a 32-bit hypervisor layer sitting over top of it. Similarly that's the most likely initial usage scenario that we'll see with 64-bit OSes -- as a better 32-bit platform. For example, 32-bit programs which are limited to 2GB to 3GB of memory right now (due to the memory footprint of the configured OS), will now see the full 4GB to themselves. And multiple 32-bit programs will see a full 4GB to themselves. Again, I don't need convincing. I already acknowledged that this new technology has advantages now. |
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Boy, ask a question, take a bunch of delayed stress.
-- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. |
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"Ed Light" wrote in message news:nj_xe.3977$Qo.1808@fed1read01... Boy, ask a question, take a bunch of delayed stress. You'd think I attacked a religion |
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"Jerry McBride" wrote in message ... Tim wrote: There's more to life than windows. Fact is, 64bit Linux is here and now. Point taken. What's the availability of commercial 3D games for Linux? How does it compare to Windows game availability? |
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Tim wrote:
64 bit architecture, multiple cores, it's all wonderful stuff. But as everyone probably knows, without a mainstream 64bit OS with solid drivers, without 64bit apps optimized for multithreading, it's all a bit premature. There's more to life than windows. Fact is, 64bit linux is here and now. I know that this technology has its advantages now but when will it be fully utilized? Right now, just go grab a copy of 64bit linux. I prefer Gentoo, but then I really like going deep into linux. Does anyone care to predict how long until software/OS developers make the complete transition? Which developers? Windows ones? Never... Will Longhorn be 64bit by default or will there be a special 64bit version? (the way XP Pro is just getting now) Longhorn? It's still in limbo. Microsoft has ripped out so much of the main features to keep it "on schedule", that it won't be anything real different than what's being used now. All thoughts appreciated. You got them... -- ************************************************** **************************** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 7:15pm up 3 days, 23:57, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.13, 0.09 |
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