If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
How solid is 64 bit Windows?
I'm asking this question for my business partner. We do chip design, I use
Linux and NCVerilog, he uses Windows and ModelSim. I have an A64 X2 4400+ system with 4G of RAM running 64 bit Fedora Core 3. He is about to purchase an identical system but with Windows. Our simulations are using more than 2G of RAM which is what's prompting him to upgrade. What I want to know is if the 64 bit version of Windows is reasonably stable or if he should get XP Pro for his new system. The lack of drivers for things like wireless cards doesn't matter since the machine will be using ethernet. How well do 32 bit binaries run on 64 bit XP? On my Linux machine I'm running 32 bit NC and 32 bit Xilinx tools with no problem, can I assume that he'll be able to run 32 bit tools on 64 bit XP? Thanks, |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
"General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message news I'm asking this question for my business partner. We do chip design, I use Linux and NCVerilog, he uses Windows and ModelSim. I have an A64 X2 4400+ system with 4G of RAM running 64 bit Fedora Core 3. He is about to purchase an identical system but with Windows. Our simulations are using more than 2G of RAM which is what's prompting him to upgrade. What I want to know is if the 64 bit version of Windows is reasonably stable or if he should get XP Pro for his new system. The lack of drivers for things like wireless cards doesn't matter since the machine will be using ethernet. How well do 32 bit binaries run on 64 bit XP? On my Linux machine I'm running 32 bit NC and 32 bit Xilinx tools with no problem, can I assume that he'll be able to run 32 bit tools on 64 bit XP? Thanks, My new system is XP Pro x64, very stable, Intel D945GTP, Intel D 640 (single core 64 bit 3.2 GHz), developing applications for .Net 1.1 with C# and C++ with .Net Studio 2003. No crashes, no mysteries, drivers were a snap. Downloaded .Net beta 2.0 and SDK, haven't worked them hard yet. I know, I know, the AMD'ers will whine about Intel, but I develop programs for robots and machines, not games. Intel has worked fine for me for years, and I don't need SATA2 as yet. (or SLI for that matter) I build AMD machines for friends that eat, drink, and dream games, and I'll probably never drool like they do. If your Verilog type programs (emulators, simulators, etc) have not been tested by vendors, I wouldn't depend on it if your budget is limited. Very few drivers for 64 bit as yet, but 32 bit applications should work WOW64 does the translations, and I haven't seen any performance hits. NOTE: several programs (like Media Player) reported during install that they were not installed properly, but worked fine later. Initially, go with onboard NIC and video if the motherboard drivers are availaible, since drivers are going thru a big shakedown right now. You could lose hours (days?) and work if halfway thru a difficult project something goes haywire and drivers interfere with one another. You can always add gadgets later as more drivers become available, and stable. Initially, I was very dissappointed by the lack of anit-virus vendors that have kept up, only to discover Nod32 (64 bit version brand new) from www.eset.com. Small footprint, 30 day free trial, extremely stable. It caught an embedded trojan in a 60 Meg video editing program as it unpacked (trial version), from download.com. I have completely abandoned 32 bit machines/operating systems. I am going to try 64 bit Fedora Core 3 on the identical hardware next. One thing I do miss is spell checker in Outlook Express. XP x64 has a few odd missing parts. Glenn E. Smith Anode PC PC based Automation San Diego, Ca, home of the tank boy |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Avast also has a 64 bit antivirus, even in the free Home version.
-- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. Bring the Troops Home: http://bringthemhomenow.org Fight Spam: http://bluesecurity.com |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
General Schvantzkoph wrote in
news I'm asking this question for my business partner. We do chip design, I use Linux and NCVerilog, he uses Windows and ModelSim. I have an A64 X2 4400+ system with 4G of RAM running 64 bit Fedora Core 3. He is about to purchase an identical system but with Windows. Our simulations are using more than 2G of RAM which is what's prompting him to upgrade. What I want to know is if the 64 bit version of Windows is reasonably stable or if he should get XP Pro for his new system. I've been using XP 64x since about end of May, and except for the STUPID Nviadia firwall, all has been fine. My system isn't as "hot" as yours, but I've seen people with "hotter" setups, and they reported no problems. I did have a few BSD under early drivers, but it's been agaes. The lack of drivers for things like wireless cards doesn't matter since the machine will be using ethernet. The driver issues are changing slowly. I now have a driver for my Brother multi function printer/scanner/fax, and it installed better than the older version for the 32 bit windows!!! The scanner function works better than my old scanner under XP! How well do 32 bit binaries run on 64 bit XP? On my Linux machine I'm running 32 bit NC and 32 bit Xilinx tools with no problem, can I assume that he'll be able to run 32 bit tools on 64 bit XP? About the only programs that will not run, a 1. Ones that look for the Windoze "version" 64x is different that 32. 2. Low level tools. Even that is slowly changing. I can defrag my drive (O&O's defragger), monitor my system (WinPatrol), and even re-partition (LINUX SystemRescueDisk?) the drive. Now I can't run the system optimizers yet, but I'm hoping. Please note, about 2 monthes ago, I thought getting 64x was the stupidest thing I'd done, but then software and such, started coming out. -- ____________________________________________ / David Simpson \ | City of Heroes, Basic Stamp, RPGs, War Games | | | | http://www.nyx.net/~dsimpson | \____________________________________________/ |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 09:30:00 -0500, David Simpson wrote:
General Schvantzkoph wrote in news I'm asking this question for my business partner. We do chip design, I use Linux and NCVerilog, he uses Windows and ModelSim. I have an A64 X2 4400+ system with 4G of RAM running 64 bit Fedora Core 3. He is about to purchase an identical system but with Windows. Our simulations are using more than 2G of RAM which is what's prompting him to upgrade. What I want to know is if the 64 bit version of Windows is reasonably stable or if he should get XP Pro for his new system. I've been using XP 64x since about end of May, and except for the STUPID Nviadia firwall, all has been fine. My system isn't as "hot" as yours, but I've seen people with "hotter" setups, and they reported no problems. I did have a few BSD under early drivers, but it's been agaes. The lack of drivers for things like wireless cards doesn't matter since the machine will be using ethernet. The driver issues are changing slowly. I now have a driver for my Brother multi function printer/scanner/fax, and it installed better than the older version for the 32 bit windows!!! The scanner function works better than my old scanner under XP! How well do 32 bit binaries run on 64 bit XP? On my Linux machine I'm running 32 bit NC and 32 bit Xilinx tools with no problem, can I assume that he'll be able to run 32 bit tools on 64 bit XP? About the only programs that will not run, a 1. Ones that look for the Windoze "version" 64x is different that 32. 2. Low level tools. Even that is slowly changing. I can defrag my drive (O&O's defragger), monitor my system (WinPatrol), and even re-partition (LINUX SystemRescueDisk?) the drive. Now I can't run the system optimizers yet, but I'm hoping. Please note, about 2 monthes ago, I thought getting 64x was the stupidest thing I'd done, but then software and such, started coming out. Thanks for all of the responses. It sounds like 64 bit Windows has reached the stage where it's good enough. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Formatting Maxtor Diamondmax 10 with Windows 2000 | [email protected] | Storage (alternative) | 4 | March 24th 05 10:36 AM |
64 bit - Windows Liberty 64bit, Windows Limited Edition 64 Bit, Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Developer Edition 64 Bit, IBM DB2 64 bit - new ! | vvcd | AMD x86-64 Processors | 0 | September 17th 04 09:07 PM |
Will Windows Power the Living Room? | Ablang | Homebuilt PC's | 32 | July 8th 04 05:34 AM |
64 bit - Windows Liberty 64bit, Windows Limited Edition 64 Bit,Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Developer Edition 64 Bit, IBM DB2 64 bit - new! | TEL | Intel | 0 | January 1st 04 06:25 PM |
New PC with W2K? | Rob | UK Computer Vendors | 5 | August 29th 03 12:32 PM |