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  #281  
Old August 5th 06, 10:42 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,uk.comp.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware,alt.engineering.electrical
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Default Typical mains power for mid-range PC?

Phat Bytestard wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Phat Bytestard wrote
kony wrote


Tell that to anyone who has had a heat induced failure.
Bet they'll be glad to know you pretended to know better.


All failures are heat induced in electronics.


Wrong. Most obviously with static damage.


You actually think there is no heat in an ESD event?


Pathetic, really.

Then there's when a bond wire comes off...

Even if that happens in the micro realm,
and is not readily observable externally.


Pathetic, really.


You really have to give up this childish lame.


It's totally meaningless... really.


Pathetic, really.

You probably think there is no heat in ultrasonic welding
of plastic too. You'd be wrong on that one as well.


Having fun thrashing that straw man are you, ****** ?

No wonder you got the bums rush, right out the door.


  #282  
Old August 5th 06, 12:23 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,uk.comp.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware,alt.engineering.electrical
Tx2
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Default Typical mains power for mid-range PC?


"Phat Bytestard" wrote in message
...

I KNOW how to characterize an operating circuit using IR thermography.


Try learning some social interaction skills. ****wit.

*plonk*


  #283  
Old August 5th 06, 09:14 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,uk.comp.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware,alt.engineering.electrical
Phat Bytestard
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Default Typical mains power for mid-range PC?

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:50:33 -0400, kony Gave us:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:12:24 GMT, Phat Bytestard
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:07:14 -0400, kony Gave us:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:57:56 GMT, Phat Bytestard
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:29:57 -0400, kony Gave us:

and that when it
happens rapidly it is another way to describe ripple, though
at a larger magnitude.

Bull****.

Ripple has a very specific definition, and that ain't it.

So sorry but ripple is ripple, including all causes... not
just the ones that suit your blind argument.



Ripple and noise are defined as periodic or random signals over a
frequency band of 10 Hz
to 20 MHz.

Your transient current draw CRAP is NOT ripple.


What did you expect to be this transient when it comes from
multi-MHz if not GHz chips, at least dozens of KHz
switching?

This is not like some motor that is a one-shot turn on.
These are constant variable loads that induce more rail
ripple than put out by the PSU itself.


You're an idiot.
  #284  
Old August 5th 06, 09:16 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,uk.comp.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware,alt.engineering.electrical
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Default Typical mains power for mid-range PC?

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:56:02 -0400, kony Gave us:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:15:33 GMT, Phat Bytestard
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:11:08 -0400, kony Gave us:

I'm not the one who is clueless about dynamic loads.


I've designed and characterized far more power supplies than a
retarded **** like you ever will.



I'm not interested in your ego or characterization, rather
some real-world testing experience would be relevant. You
have not done that relevant testing on a modern system if
you have not observed this load-induced ripple.


Characterization of a power supply IS bench/system level, you stupid
****. Did you think the term meant "I wrote some details down on
paper"? If so, you are an absolute ditz.
  #285  
Old August 5th 06, 09:18 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,uk.comp.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware,alt.engineering.electrical
Phat Bytestard
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Default Typical mains power for mid-range PC?

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:09:20 -0400, kony Gave us:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:26:04 GMT, Phat Bytestard
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:32:13 -0400, kony Gave us:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:18:47 GMT, Phat Bytestard
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:51:12 -0400, kony Gave us:

Read up a bit, then a bit more.

**** off a bit... then a bit more.

Believe it or not, educating yourself about the issue of
dynamic loads would help.


I have designed switchers for years.



I hope not.


**** off, you presumptuous retard!
  #286  
Old August 5th 06, 09:23 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,uk.comp.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware,alt.engineering.electrical
Phat Bytestard
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Default Typical mains power for mid-range PC?

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:17:54 -0400, kony Gave us:

This is pointless, anyone can look on the bottom of their
drive and a large percentage will see there is no tab. They
aren't even sunk on the underside to the copper either, at
least none that I've aware of and I ALWAYS examine drives.


This proves that you know little or nothing about how transistor and
FET packages are made. It also shows that you are a mere observer, not
an engineer. "I ALWAYS examine my drives." Whoopie doo, little boy.

You have proven that you know nothing about how dissipative devices
are made, let alone how the die is thermally coupled to the
packaging... ALL of the packaging.

And yes, a hard drive's PCB assembly uses conduction cooling
methodologies to manage thermals generated by driver devices.

Both those for the spindle as well as those for the head actuator,
and read/write head(s).

You truly are clueless.
  #287  
Old August 5th 06, 09:26 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,uk.comp.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware,alt.engineering.electrical
Phat Bytestard
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Default Typical mains power for mid-range PC?

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:17:54 -0400, kony Gave us:

Typically on modern parts you may have some SMT transistors
with tabs but the rest are sunk by their leads only.


You're an idiot. The leads have NEVER been a thermal path. They are
too small to make a significant difference.

ALL SMD transistors that are power devices have tabs, whether they
are exposed after assembly or not.

You have succeeded in making your most retarded remark yet.

Talk about being not worthy of having a conversation with... you
are that, boy.
  #288  
Old August 5th 06, 09:29 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,uk.comp.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware,alt.engineering.electrical
Phat Bytestard
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Default Typical mains power for mid-range PC?

On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:23:18 +0100, "Tx2"
Gave us:


"Phat Bytestard" wrote in message
.. .

I KNOW how to characterize an operating circuit using IR thermography.


Try learning some social interaction skills. ****wit.

*plonk*

Congratulations for participating in the most retarded behavior in
Usenet, chump.

Announcing your filter file edit.

Oh boy... you're a *real* man.

As to interactions, go back in the thread where the ****tard started
insulting me, and you'll see why he gets no quarter.

Nor do you, you retarded twit.
 




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