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Old February 4th 04, 01:35 AM
Paul Harris
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Default Computer totally up **** creek

Hi. I have been having tremendous trouble with my computer recently. It all
started around Christmas time. I used my computer on Christmas Eve, switched
it off and didn't come back to it again until Boxing day, only to discover
that it would not start at all. After a bit of experimentation, I discovered
the power supply had packed up for no apparent reason (had it less than a
year and it's plugged in to a surge protector.)
I put in a 300w PSU (the previous one was 400w) temporarily but discovered
that I was having new problems with my computer randomly restarting every so
often, but I put this down to the lower wattage PSU.
I decided to reinstall Win2K anyway and so, for a number of reasons, put the
hard drive in a different computer and formatted it and installed W2K and it
all worked fine. Until, that is, I put the hard drive back in the original
computer (with new shiny 550w PSU) and it refused to boot. Kept getting a
BSOD saying innacessible boot device etc. etc. So, I tried reinstalling W2K
again. It gets as far as formatting the hard drive but as soon as it starts
to install windows I get a BSOD saying something about a "stop error" and
"if this is the first time you have seen this message reboot and try again
etc. etc."

Basically, I'm pretty much out of ideas. I don't think it can be the hard
drive because it worked in the other computer but then I don't see how it
can be the motherboard either. Any suggestions?

Oh and if it helps here is my hardwa

Athlon XP 2400+
1Gb DDR RAM
Epox EP-8RDAN motherboard
80GB Maxtor Hard drive


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Old February 4th 04, 03:26 AM
Dave C.
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Did you delete the partition before you tried to reinstall win2k? Don't
install any windows version OVER windows. -Dave


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Old February 4th 04, 03:55 AM
PWY
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"Paul Harris" wrote in message
...
Hi. I have been having tremendous trouble with my computer recently. It

all
started around Christmas time. I used my computer on Christmas Eve,

switched
it off and didn't come back to it again until Boxing day, only to discover
that it would not start at all. After a bit of experimentation, I

discovered
the power supply had packed up for no apparent reason (had it less than a
year and it's plugged in to a surge protector.)
I put in a 300w PSU (the previous one was 400w) temporarily but discovered
that I was having new problems with my computer randomly restarting every

so
often, but I put this down to the lower wattage PSU.
I decided to reinstall Win2K anyway and so, for a number of reasons, put

the
hard drive in a different computer and formatted it and installed W2K and

it
all worked fine. Until, that is, I put the hard drive back in the original
computer (with new shiny 550w PSU) and it refused to boot. Kept getting a
BSOD saying innacessible boot device etc. etc. So, I tried reinstalling

W2K
again. It gets as far as formatting the hard drive but as soon as it

starts
to install windows I get a BSOD saying something about a "stop error" and
"if this is the first time you have seen this message reboot and try again
etc. etc."

Basically, I'm pretty much out of ideas. I don't think it can be the hard
drive because it worked in the other computer but then I don't see how it
can be the motherboard either. Any suggestions?

Oh and if it helps here is my hardwa

Athlon XP 2400+
1Gb DDR RAM
Epox EP-8RDAN motherboard
80GB Maxtor Hard drive

Did you install drivers for your Epox Motherboard ?

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Old February 4th 04, 06:03 AM
tweak
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:35:36 -0000, "Paul Harris"
wrote:

Hi. I have been having tremendous trouble with my computer recently. It all
started around Christmas time. I used my computer on Christmas Eve, switched
it off and didn't come back to it again until Boxing day, only to discover
that it would not start at all. After a bit of experimentation, I discovered
the power supply had packed up for no apparent reason (had it less than a
year and it's plugged in to a surge protector.)
I put in a 300w PSU (the previous one was 400w) temporarily but discovered
that I was having new problems with my computer randomly restarting every so
often, but I put this down to the lower wattage PSU.
I decided to reinstall Win2K anyway and so, for a number of reasons, put the
hard drive in a different computer and formatted it and installed W2K and it
all worked fine. Until, that is, I put the hard drive back in the original
computer (with new shiny 550w PSU) and it refused to boot. Kept getting a
BSOD saying innacessible boot device etc. etc. So, I tried reinstalling W2K
again. It gets as far as formatting the hard drive but as soon as it starts
to install windows I get a BSOD saying something about a "stop error" and
"if this is the first time you have seen this message reboot and try again
etc. etc."

Basically, I'm pretty much out of ideas. I don't think it can be the hard
drive because it worked in the other computer but then I don't see how it
can be the motherboard either. Any suggestions?

Oh and if it helps here is my hardwa

Athlon XP 2400+
1Gb DDR RAM
Epox EP-8RDAN motherboard
80GB Maxtor Hard drive


You shouldn't have done the install on a swap drive.
I've found that win2k doesn't like to install over a previous install.
You need to boot from the win2k boot disks and reformat and reinstall
on a clean disc.
At least that's what I do.
Win2k tends to be intuitive during install and will install many of
the required hardware drivers for mobo and other devices from it's
driver files during install.
At least that's what I do.

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Old February 4th 04, 09:13 AM
KC Computers
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I decided to reinstall Win2K anyway and so, for a number of reasons, put
the
hard drive in a different computer and formatted it and installed W2K and

it
all worked fine. Until, that is, I put the hard drive back in the original
computer (with new shiny 550w PSU) and it refused to boot. Kept getting a
BSOD saying innacessible boot device etc. etc. So, I tried reinstalling

W2K
again. It gets as far as formatting the hard drive but as soon as it

starts
to install windows I get a BSOD saying something about a "stop error" and
"if this is the first time you have seen this message reboot and try again
etc. etc."
Basically, I'm pretty much out of ideas. I don't think it can be the hard
drive because it worked in the other computer but then I don't see how it
can be the motherboard either. Any suggestions?
Athlon XP 2400+
1Gb DDR RAM
Epox EP-8RDAN motherboard
80GB Maxtor Hard drive


Did you try one RAM module at a time? I assume that you have two 512MB
modules.

---
Kevin Chalker, Owner KC COMPUTERS
E-mail: Web: www.kc-computers.com
Internet dealer for 13+ years!!! See WWW.RESELLERRATINGS.COM!!!


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Old February 4th 04, 09:59 AM
MrJumbles
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start from the beginning...put the hd into the machine it will run in and
then reformat..install windows..
The method you have described is a recipe for madness

"Paul Harris" wrote in message
...
Hi. I have been having tremendous trouble with my computer recently. It

all
started around Christmas time. I used my computer on Christmas Eve,

switched
it off and didn't come back to it again until Boxing day, only to discover
that it would not start at all. After a bit of experimentation, I

discovered
the power supply had packed up for no apparent reason (had it less than a
year and it's plugged in to a surge protector.)
I put in a 300w PSU (the previous one was 400w) temporarily but discovered
that I was having new problems with my computer randomly restarting every

so
often, but I put this down to the lower wattage PSU.
I decided to reinstall Win2K anyway and so, for a number of reasons, put

the
hard drive in a different computer and formatted it and installed W2K and

it
all worked fine. Until, that is, I put the hard drive back in the original
computer (with new shiny 550w PSU) and it refused to boot. Kept getting a
BSOD saying innacessible boot device etc. etc. So, I tried reinstalling

W2K
again. It gets as far as formatting the hard drive but as soon as it

starts
to install windows I get a BSOD saying something about a "stop error" and
"if this is the first time you have seen this message reboot and try again
etc. etc."

Basically, I'm pretty much out of ideas. I don't think it can be the hard
drive because it worked in the other computer but then I don't see how it
can be the motherboard either. Any suggestions?

Oh and if it helps here is my hardwa

Athlon XP 2400+
1Gb DDR RAM
Epox EP-8RDAN motherboard
80GB Maxtor Hard drive




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Old February 4th 04, 10:30 AM
Scapaflow
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I'm not sure why using boot disks should be necessary. The Win2k
installation CDROM provides for partitioning and formatting operations
near the beginning of the installation sequence.

I always delete the existing partition, re-create a partition, format,
and then proceed with the installation. This always works.

Failure to delete then re-create a partition(s) results in erasure
failure of the previous Win2k installation.

I very well could be wrong but that's my take on it.

Finally--A Win2k install performed on machine A rarely works when the
HD is transferred to different machine B. Stop errors are what I've
typically seen as well.
Dave

Dave

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:35:36 -0000, "Paul Harris"
wrote:

Hi. I have been having tremendous trouble with my computer recently. It all
started around Christmas time. I used my computer on Christmas Eve, switched
it off and didn't come back to it again until Boxing day, only to discover
that it would not start at all. After a bit of experimentation, I discovered
the power supply had packed up for no apparent reason (had it less than a
year and it's plugged in to a surge protector.)
I put in a 300w PSU (the previous one was 400w) temporarily but discovered
that I was having new problems with my computer randomly restarting every so
often, but I put this down to the lower wattage PSU.
I decided to reinstall Win2K anyway and so, for a number of reasons, put the
hard drive in a different computer and formatted it and installed W2K and it
all worked fine. Until, that is, I put the hard drive back in the original
computer (with new shiny 550w PSU) and it refused to boot. Kept getting a
BSOD saying innacessible boot device etc. etc. So, I tried reinstalling W2K
again. It gets as far as formatting the hard drive but as soon as it starts
to install windows I get a BSOD saying something about a "stop error" and
"if this is the first time you have seen this message reboot and try again
etc. etc."

Basically, I'm pretty much out of ideas. I don't think it can be the hard
drive because it worked in the other computer but then I don't see how it
can be the motherboard either. Any suggestions?

Oh and if it helps here is my hardwa

Athlon XP 2400+
1Gb DDR RAM
Epox EP-8RDAN motherboard
80GB Maxtor Hard drive


You shouldn't have done the install on a swap drive.
I've found that win2k doesn't like to install over a previous install.
You need to boot from the win2k boot disks and reformat and reinstall
on a clean disc.
At least that's what I do.
Win2k tends to be intuitive during install and will install many of
the required hardware drivers for mobo and other devices from it's
driver files during install.
At least that's what I do.


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Old February 4th 04, 03:18 PM
Paul Harris
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Did you install drivers for your Epox Motherboard ?

It shouldn't matter cos it was working for nearly a year without me needing
to bother.


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Old February 4th 04, 03:20 PM
Paul Harris
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"MrJumbles" wrote in message
.. .
start from the beginning...put the hd into the machine it will run in and
then reformat..install windows..
The method you have described is a recipe for madness


I have tried that. Started right from the beginning, deleted all partitions
and **** and tried to reinstall windows. It creates a new partition,
finishes formatting, starts to install windows and gets a stop error. If
it's any help i've just discovered it says something about "ntoskrnl.exe."


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Old February 4th 04, 03:53 PM
claytoarus
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Right. I think this thread is on the best track.
BIOS's tend to be picky about where their hard drives have been

as for boot disks, you need them in some form or another. some bios's
still refuse to boot from CD.

-clay

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 04:30:02 -0500, Scapaflow
wrote:

I'm not sure why using boot disks should be necessary. The Win2k
installation CDROM provides for partitioning and formatting operations
near the beginning of the installation sequence.

I always delete the existing partition, re-create a partition, format,
and then proceed with the installation. This always works.

Failure to delete then re-create a partition(s) results in erasure
failure of the previous Win2k installation.

I very well could be wrong but that's my take on it.

Finally--A Win2k install performed on machine A rarely works when the
HD is transferred to different machine B. Stop errors are what I've
typically seen as well.
Dave

Dave

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:35:36 -0000, "Paul Harris"
wrote:

Hi. I have been having tremendous trouble with my computer recently. It all
started around Christmas time. I used my computer on Christmas Eve, switched
it off and didn't come back to it again until Boxing day, only to discover
that it would not start at all. After a bit of experimentation, I discovered
the power supply had packed up for no apparent reason (had it less than a
year and it's plugged in to a surge protector.)
I put in a 300w PSU (the previous one was 400w) temporarily but discovered
that I was having new problems with my computer randomly restarting every so
often, but I put this down to the lower wattage PSU.
I decided to reinstall Win2K anyway and so, for a number of reasons, put the
hard drive in a different computer and formatted it and installed W2K and it
all worked fine. Until, that is, I put the hard drive back in the original
computer (with new shiny 550w PSU) and it refused to boot. Kept getting a
BSOD saying innacessible boot device etc. etc. So, I tried reinstalling W2K
again. It gets as far as formatting the hard drive but as soon as it starts
to install windows I get a BSOD saying something about a "stop error" and
"if this is the first time you have seen this message reboot and try again
etc. etc."

Basically, I'm pretty much out of ideas. I don't think it can be the hard
drive because it worked in the other computer but then I don't see how it
can be the motherboard either. Any suggestions?

Oh and if it helps here is my hardwa

Athlon XP 2400+
1Gb DDR RAM
Epox EP-8RDAN motherboard
80GB Maxtor Hard drive


You shouldn't have done the install on a swap drive.
I've found that win2k doesn't like to install over a previous install.
You need to boot from the win2k boot disks and reformat and reinstall
on a clean disc.
At least that's what I do.
Win2k tends to be intuitive during install and will install many of
the required hardware drivers for mobo and other devices from it's
driver files during install.
At least that's what I do.


 




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