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Pairing Headphone to Desktop PC Using Bluetooth
I have a desktop PC with Windows 7 installed and I just purchased a
pair of Bose Quietcomfort 35 II Noise Canceling headphones. The headphones do not come with a USB adapter for Bluetooth pairing, and my desktop PC motherboard does not have Bluetooth capability. I think that I need to purchase some sort of USB Bluetooth adapter from a place like Best Buy etc. Which one do you recommend? Or maybe is there something else that I need to purchase? And what kind of software will I need to do the pairing? I definitely do not want to use my Bose headphones with a 3.5 mm audio cable plugged into the desktop PC!! -- tb |
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Pairing Headphone to Desktop PC Using Bluetooth
On 6/13/2019 4:49 PM, tb wrote:
I have a desktop PC with Windows 7 installed and I just purchased a pair of Bose Quietcomfort 35 II Noise Canceling headphones. The headphones do not come with a USB adapter for Bluetooth pairing, and my desktop PC motherboard does not have Bluetooth capability. I think that I need to purchase some sort of USB Bluetooth adapter from a place like Best Buy etc. Which one do you recommend? Or maybe is there something else that I need to purchase? And what kind of software will I need to do the pairing? I definitely do not want to use my Bose headphones with a 3.5 mm audio cable plugged into the desktop PC!! Since you need an adapter for the single purpose of feeding the headphones I guess that one specialized for that purpose might be best. Certainly not the cheapest but neither were your headphones. https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Blue.../dp/B01G3J1I5M Note that this device won't work for all of the other tasks that Bluetooth is capable of (keyboards, mice, printers, dildos, or whatever) just for feeding headphones or speakers. |
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Pairing Headphone to Desktop PC Using Bluetooth
tb wrote:
I have a desktop PC with Windows 7 installed and I just purchased a pair of Bose Quietcomfort 35 II Noise Canceling headphones. The headphones do not come with a USB adapter for Bluetooth pairing, and my desktop PC motherboard does not have Bluetooth capability. I think that I need to purchase some sort of USB Bluetooth adapter from a place like Best Buy etc. Which one do you recommend? Or maybe is there something else that I need to purchase? And what kind of software will I need to do the pairing? I definitely do not want to use my Bose headphones with a 3.5 mm audio cable plugged into the desktop PC!! Despite improvements in Bluetooth response, they are still slow to transfer the audio data. For listing to audio only, like music or phone calls, they're okay. Oops, forget about phone calls as this is a headphone pair, not a headset with headphones and microphone. For listening to a action video game, the sound will be too late. The lag is only about 100 milliseconds, but that can mean the difference between you surviving or not in the game (in addition to your reaction time). I had a pair of Bluetooth headphones. Didn't like the lag between audio and video, so I temporarily used a pair that use the 3.5mm jack. No lag. I didn't want to leave them plugged in all the time, so I got a pair of USB wired headphones. No lag, plus more features than with the 3.5mm phono jack wired headphones. If you're not pairing the audio to video then you don't care about any lag. There are newer drivers ("aptX Low-Latency") that are supposed to reduce the lag (I think a BT 4.x device is required), but they don't eliminate it. Bluetooth is best with slow devices or where transfer speed is not the highest priority, like mice, keyboards, file transfers (where you can suffer the wait), etc. A wired connection gives you the least lag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bypcPW5O4 I tried to get some specs on the product by going to: https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/...reless-ii.html I didn't see which version of Bluetooth that those headphones support. Their specs don't even list Bluetooth. Must because users mention Bluetooth doesn't mean they actually know if Bluetooth or wifi is being used for the device's connection. "Wireless" does NOT mandate Bluetooth. Could be wi-fi. I did find "Bluetooth" in their FAQs, but not which version of Bluetooth the headset supports. My latest PC build has inbuilt Bluetooth. Before that with my Win7 build, I was using the Asus USB-BT400 Bluetooth USB dongle. Cost is currently $15 at newegg.com. They have several. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=4814%2...sb&Order=PRICE That selects Bluetooth 4.0. The dongles are USB 2.0 (400 Mbps) because they don't need the higher bandwidth of USB 3.x for Bluetooth connections (25 Mbps). Bluetooth 4.0 and Wi-Fi Direct use Bluetooth to establish the pairing and connection, but a wi-fi connection is used for faster bandwidth of 250 Mbps. I couldn't find which versions of Bluetooth that your headphones support. There is almost no difference in price between a Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 USB dongle, and the 4.0 version is backwards compatible, so get a Bluetooth 4.0 USB dongle to pair with whatever Bluetooth version your headphones support. |
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Pairing Headphone to Desktop PC Using Bluetooth
On 6/13/2019 3:42 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
tb wrote: I have a desktop PC with Windows 7 installed and I just purchased a pair of Bose Quietcomfort 35 II Noise Canceling headphones. The headphones do not come with a USB adapter for Bluetooth pairing, and my desktop PC motherboard does not have Bluetooth capability. I think that I need to purchase some sort of USB Bluetooth adapter from a place like Best Buy etc. Which one do you recommend? Or maybe is there something else that I need to purchase? And what kind of software will I need to do the pairing? I definitely do not want to use my Bose headphones with a 3.5 mm audio cable plugged into the desktop PC!! Despite improvements in Bluetooth response, they are still slow to transfer the audio data. For listing to audio only, like music or phone calls, they're okay. Oops, forget about phone calls as this is a headphone pair, not a headset with headphones and microphone. For listening to a action video game, the sound will be too late. The lag is only about 100 milliseconds, but that can mean the difference between you surviving or not in the game (in addition to your reaction time). I had a pair of Bluetooth headphones. Didn't like the lag between audio and video, so I temporarily used a pair that use the 3.5mm jack. No lag. I didn't want to leave them plugged in all the time, so I got a pair of USB wired headphones. No lag, plus more features than with the 3.5mm phono jack wired headphones. If you're not pairing the audio to video then you don't care about any lag. There are newer drivers ("aptX Low-Latency") that are supposed to reduce the lag (I think a BT 4.x device is required), but they don't eliminate it. Bluetooth is best with slow devices or where transfer speed is not the highest priority, like mice, keyboards, file transfers (where you can suffer the wait), etc. A wired connection gives you the least lag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bypcPW5O4 I tried to get some specs on the product by going to: https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/...reless-ii.html I didn't see which version of Bluetooth that those headphones support. Their specs don't even list Bluetooth. Must because users mention Bluetooth doesn't mean they actually know if Bluetooth or wifi is being used for the device's connection. "Wireless" does NOT mandate Bluetooth. Could be wi-fi. I did find "Bluetooth" in their FAQs, but not which version of Bluetooth the headset supports. My latest PC build has inbuilt Bluetooth. Before that with my Win7 build, I was using the Asus USB-BT400 Bluetooth USB dongle. Cost is currently $15 at newegg.com. They have several. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=4814%2...sb&Order=PRICE That selects Bluetooth 4.0. The dongles are USB 2.0 (400 Mbps) because they don't need the higher bandwidth of USB 3.x for Bluetooth connections (25 Mbps). Bluetooth 4.0 and Wi-Fi Direct use Bluetooth to establish the pairing and connection, but a wi-fi connection is used for faster bandwidth of 250 Mbps. I couldn't find which versions of Bluetooth that your headphones support. There is almost no difference in price between a Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 USB dongle, and the 4.0 version is backwards compatible, so get a Bluetooth 4.0 USB dongle to pair with whatever Bluetooth version your headphones support. QC35 II supports Bluetooth 4.1 https://community.bose.com/t5/Headph...e-C/td-p/72863 |
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Pairing Headphone to Desktop PC Using Bluetooth
On 6/13/2019 3:42 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
tb wrote: I have a desktop PC with Windows 7 installed and I just purchased a pair of Bose Quietcomfort 35 II Noise Canceling headphones. The headphones do not come with a USB adapter for Bluetooth pairing, and my desktop PC motherboard does not have Bluetooth capability. I think that I need to purchase some sort of USB Bluetooth adapter from a place like Best Buy etc. Which one do you recommend? Or maybe is there something else that I need to purchase? And what kind of software will I need to do the pairing? I definitely do not want to use my Bose headphones with a 3.5 mm audio cable plugged into the desktop PC!! Despite improvements in Bluetooth response, they are still slow to transfer the audio data. For listing to audio only, like music or phone calls, they're okay. Oops, forget about phone calls as this is a headphone pair, not a headset with headphones and microphone. For listening to a action video game, the sound will be too late. The lag is only about 100 milliseconds, but that can mean the difference between you surviving or not in the game (in addition to your reaction time). I had a pair of Bluetooth headphones. Didn't like the lag between audio and video, so I temporarily used a pair that use the 3.5mm jack. No lag. I didn't want to leave them plugged in all the time, so I got a pair of USB wired headphones. No lag, plus more features than with the 3.5mm phono jack wired headphones. If you're not pairing the audio to video then you don't care about any lag. There are newer drivers ("aptX Low-Latency") that are supposed to reduce the lag (I think a BT 4.x device is required), but they don't eliminate it. Bluetooth is best with slow devices or where transfer speed is not the highest priority, like mice, keyboards, file transfers (where you can suffer the wait), etc. A wired connection gives you the least lag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bypcPW5O4 I tried to get some specs on the product by going to: https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/...reless-ii.html I didn't see which version of Bluetooth that those headphones support. Their specs don't even list Bluetooth. Must because users mention Bluetooth doesn't mean they actually know if Bluetooth or wifi is being used for the device's connection. "Wireless" does NOT mandate Bluetooth. Could be wi-fi. I did find "Bluetooth" in their FAQs, but not which version of Bluetooth the headset supports. My latest PC build has inbuilt Bluetooth. Before that with my Win7 build, I was using the Asus USB-BT400 Bluetooth USB dongle. Cost is currently $15 at newegg.com. They have several. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=4814%2...sb&Order=PRICE That selects Bluetooth 4.0. The dongles are USB 2.0 (400 Mbps) because they don't need the higher bandwidth of USB 3.x for Bluetooth connections (25 Mbps). Bluetooth 4.0 and Wi-Fi Direct use Bluetooth to establish the pairing and connection, but a wi-fi connection is used for faster bandwidth of 250 Mbps. I couldn't find which versions of Bluetooth that your headphones support. There is almost no difference in price between a Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 USB dongle, and the 4.0 version is backwards compatible, so get a Bluetooth 4.0 USB dongle to pair with whatever Bluetooth version your headphones support. QC35 II supports Bluetooth 4.1 https://community.bose.com/t5/Headph...e-C/td-p/72863 |
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Pairing Headphone to Desktop PC Using Bluetooth
Mike S wrote:
On 6/13/2019 3:42 PM, VanguardLH wrote: tb wrote: I have a desktop PC with Windows 7 installed and I just purchased a pair of Bose Quietcomfort 35 II Noise Canceling headphones. The headphones do not come with a USB adapter for Bluetooth pairing, and my desktop PC motherboard does not have Bluetooth capability. I think that I need to purchase some sort of USB Bluetooth adapter from a place like Best Buy etc. Which one do you recommend? Or maybe is there something else that I need to purchase? And what kind of software will I need to do the pairing? I definitely do not want to use my Bose headphones with a 3.5 mm audio cable plugged into the desktop PC!! Despite improvements in Bluetooth response, they are still slow to transfer the audio data. For listing to audio only, like music or phone calls, they're okay. Oops, forget about phone calls as this is a headphone pair, not a headset with headphones and microphone. For listening to a action video game, the sound will be too late. The lag is only about 100 milliseconds, but that can mean the difference between you surviving or not in the game (in addition to your reaction time). I had a pair of Bluetooth headphones. Didn't like the lag between audio and video, so I temporarily used a pair that use the 3.5mm jack. No lag. I didn't want to leave them plugged in all the time, so I got a pair of USB wired headphones. No lag, plus more features than with the 3.5mm phono jack wired headphones. If you're not pairing the audio to video then you don't care about any lag. There are newer drivers ("aptX Low-Latency") that are supposed to reduce the lag (I think a BT 4.x device is required), but they don't eliminate it. Bluetooth is best with slow devices or where transfer speed is not the highest priority, like mice, keyboards, file transfers (where you can suffer the wait), etc. A wired connection gives you the least lag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bypcPW5O4 I tried to get some specs on the product by going to: https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/...reless-ii.html I didn't see which version of Bluetooth that those headphones support. Their specs don't even list Bluetooth. Must because users mention Bluetooth doesn't mean they actually know if Bluetooth or wifi is being used for the device's connection. "Wireless" does NOT mandate Bluetooth. Could be wi-fi. I did find "Bluetooth" in their FAQs, but not which version of Bluetooth the headset supports. My latest PC build has inbuilt Bluetooth. Before that with my Win7 build, I was using the Asus USB-BT400 Bluetooth USB dongle. Cost is currently $15 at newegg.com. They have several. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=4814%2...sb&Order=PRICE That selects Bluetooth 4.0. The dongles are USB 2.0 (400 Mbps) because they don't need the higher bandwidth of USB 3.x for Bluetooth connections (25 Mbps). Bluetooth 4.0 and Wi-Fi Direct use Bluetooth to establish the pairing and connection, but a wi-fi connection is used for faster bandwidth of 250 Mbps. I couldn't find which versions of Bluetooth that your headphones support. There is almost no difference in price between a Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 USB dongle, and the 4.0 version is backwards compatible, so get a Bluetooth 4.0 USB dongle to pair with whatever Bluetooth version your headphones support. QC35 II supports Bluetooth 4.1 https://community.bose.com/t5/Headph...e-C/td-p/72863 A poster in that thread states: "What a pitty that your new version does not support bluetooth 5 or aptx hd ... I'm waiting next version..." I can't find any Bluetooth stack list, as to what it does support (for $350). It appears to run off a Lithium battery, and you would hope it's a single cell 4V setup so that if it goes flat while in storage, the cell won't get damaged. That's the one thing I have against lithium toys, is you have to keep using them (charging them), to keep them healthy. My digital camera ran flat, and the single-cell power source can still be charged afterwards (unlike multi-cell laptop batteries when that happens). I was looking to see if it supported a2dp or AptX, as a2dp isn't exactly an audio connoisseur spec of audio stack. AptX uses compression, and would have better specs than a2dp. I've not heard of AptX HD, which presumably operates along the same theme (compression scheme) but offers a wider frequency range or something. But a2dp itself, you'd want that for "compatibility reasons", so you could, say, pair the headphones while in your car. But for $350, you would think the device would need a quality source, and that would mean something better than a2dp. If a sending device only had a2dp stack support, then I'd probably use an analog 3.5" path instead. And while the notion of "arbitrarily high" Bluetooth version is quaint, I doubt it will make a whole lot of difference. BT4 probably saves as much power, as you need to save. ******* One point that should be made, is that on Mobile devices (Android or Apple), the audio path will likely "just work" with a minimum of fuss. Whereas with desktops, expect "maximum grief". For example on Windows 10, Microsoft provided a brand new BT stack, to take the place of the jungle of proprietary stacks used on previous OSes. But when I tried to set up a piconet between two BT USB dongles on the desktops, the code obviously wasn't finished, and I got two packets through before it stopped working completely. A more recent version of Windows 10, claims to have this working now, but... "I'm exhausted". I can only handle so many of these bug-busting exercises before I'm wishing I had an Android or an Apple smartphone in my hand instead. I have the Asus BT400 too, but that's mainly because that is what I could get at the computer store. When you read the reviews on these things and try and compare them, it's pretty hard to make a good choice. And the Asus BT400 is Broadcom Widcomm stack. I kinda remembered that bit, and this was a hit in Google to confirm. https://secretrockstar.com/finally-f...sues-broadcom/ For a Windows 7 user, this is your experience. You will need to find comparison articles on stacks, and so on. So if the stack on the CD doesn't particularly work out, then you follow the path of some of these posters perhaps. https://superuser.com/questions/4081...indows-7-64bit Imagine you want to buy an item for $0.10 and the government tax is $1.00. That's the Bluetooth experience. Not a lot of value, "lots of tax on top"., the tax being trying to get the profile required for your BT peripheral, supported by the stack you've installed. My BT400 pair of devices worked best, if between 5 feet and 10 feet of one another and *line of sight*. Also, it does not help BT, if in your computer room, you have USB3 cables with active data connections running at the same time, as the radiation spectrum from a USB3 cable is a broad peak at 2.5GHz or so, and with weak BT signals, competes with the BT transmitter. Try to route USB3 cables "on the other side of the machine" and see if that helps in low-signal conditions. BT dongles come in three classes, but with the integrated radios, a "powerful transmitter" might degrade after several months of usage. The small size of the nano dongles, means there's only one chip, and CMOS isn't always the best choice for making 2.4GHz radio signals. On Wifi modules, external bipolar radios are used on the better quality designs, and those tend to age well. Occasionally, a BT USB2 becomes super-hot to the touch, and that's probably a capacitor gone ohmic and shorting the supply. It's less likely to be the chip going into latchup. The "bad ceramic cap" issue happens on DIMMs sometimes, leading to infant mortality. It's hard to say whether proper inspection during manufacture would catch this. For dime store items, you would not expect a "lot of microscope time". Paul |
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