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Need upgrade info on older Gateway mobo
I have an older mobo laying around from a Gateway unit that I want to build
strictly for the family to surf with. The mobo is a Gateway part #4000407 w/ currently a Pentium II 500mhz installed. I know the maximum memory that it can use, but I don't know the maximum CPU, and the only thing that I would be interested in is increasing the CPU if it's possible. So, what is the maximum CPU allowed? Here's some additional information about the mobo that might help someone help me: http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERB...m00407nv.shtml |
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Looks like the configure mode should tell you.
http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERB...m0006126.shtml http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERB...m0006106.shtml http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERB...m00407tc.shtml "John Barrington" jbarrington at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I have an older mobo laying around from a Gateway unit that I want to build strictly for the family to surf with. The mobo is a Gateway part #4000407 w/ currently a Pentium II 500mhz installed. I know the maximum memory that it can use, but I don't know the maximum CPU, and the only thing that I would be interested in is increasing the CPU if it's possible. So, what is the maximum CPU allowed? Here's some additional information about the mobo that might help someone help me: http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERB...m00407nv.shtml |
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500 Mhz is fast enough for surfing, even with a broadband connection. The amount of memory you need depends on your OS. You will need 256 MB with WinXP. John Barrington wrote: I have an older mobo laying around from a Gateway unit that I want to build strictly for the family to surf with. The mobo is a Gateway part #4000407 w/ currently a Pentium II 500mhz installed. I know the maximum memory that it can use, but I don't know the maximum CPU, and the only thing that I would be interested in is increasing the CPU if it's possible. So, what is the maximum CPU allowed? Here's some additional information about the mobo that might help someone help me: http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERB...m00407nv.shtml -- When replying by Email include NewSGrouP (case sensitive) in Subject Mike Walsh West Palm Beach, Florida, U.S.A. |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 13:09:47 -0400, "John Barrington"
jbarrington at comcast dot net wrote: I have an older mobo laying around from a Gateway unit that I want to build strictly for the family to surf with. The mobo is a Gateway part #4000407 w/ currently a Pentium II 500mhz installed. I know the maximum memory that it can use, but I don't know the maximum CPU, and the only thing that I would be interested in is increasing the CPU if it's possible. So, what is the maximum CPU allowed? Here's some additional information about the mobo that might help someone help me: http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERB...m00407nv.shtml Generally speaking, an Intel OEM BX chipset board like that could run up to 1.1GHz Celeron or 1GHz P3 (100MHz FSB models ONLY) with a slotket adapter (in other words, these are socket 370 CPUs needing the adapter for at least conversion to slot 1 interface). Some also wouldn't support less than 1.8V, though I don't know if it applies to your specific board. If so, a slotket with manual voltage jumpers on it (fairly common feature) might be needed, set to that 1.8V minimum value suppported. Note that CPU default voltage will be less than this, somewhere inbetween 1.5-1.75V, but back in that day many people did this type of upgrade and 1.8V is historically seen as still low enough to be "safe" and promote acceptible lifespan (chips still run today) and not so high as to create cooling problems with any *normal*, reasonable quality small heatsink. The other issues would be if your board unnecessarily halts system when it can't make a proper CPU ID. IIRC, Intel's last couple retail board bios did this, but your current bios for this Gateway OEM board is "probably" not going to do this, odds are high it'd work fine but even so it would be better to buy CPU from someplace with a good return policy. Also keep in mind that you might find an old socket 370 motherboard that can support same CPUs for little more than the cost of the slotket, or for a little more $, a motherboard supporting Tualatin Celerons might allow faster CPU while allowing reuse of your memory (and "probably" power supply too, depending on how many other power hungry parts are in the system, in general a 200W PSU is sufficient for a Tualatin CPU in a basic system config.). So far as slotted CPUs go, the board might run up to PIII-600, or higher speed P3 (still only those with 100MHz FSB) in the coppermines up to same 1GHz, but with these slotted SECC2 CPUs the board must support voltage lower than 1.8V already, else some kind of circuit modification will be needed to force board to use 1.8V. You might check any available documentation to see if the board supports lower than 1.8V, typically the voltage lower limit would be 1.8V, 1.5V, or rarely 1.3V (IIRC). |
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"Mike Walsh" wrote in message ... 500 Mhz is fast enough for surfing, even with a broadband connection. The amount of memory you need depends on your OS. You will need 256 MB with WinXP. You're right, but I was interested into finding out the maximum CPU this board could take within reason and without modifying anything (like over clocking). I was going to keep the upgrading to this baord at a minimum other than what I might have on hand. I'll buy a few things like a USB 2 port for it, but if I could find a faster but cheap CPU on eBay, I might go ahead and spring for it. |
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Thanks for the info, kony.
I'm a little slow here, but I think that you are saying that the fastest *normal* CPU this board will handle will be a 600? |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:48:51 -0400, ":J:W:B:" jbarrington @@
comcast..net wrote: Thanks for the info, kony. I'm a little slow here, but I think that you are saying that the fastest *normal* CPU this board will handle will be a 600? Yes, the older "Katmai" P3 600 in the 100MHz FSB version (or maybe all of them were 100MHz FSB, I don't remember), not the Coppermine P3 600 which also came in a SECC2, slot 1 form, IIRC. I have one of those around here somewhere, if you want it for $12 incl S/H, let me know, but it isn't much of an upgrade from the 500MHz CPU you already have. The coppermines (when used on a slotket) are a better upgrade option, IMHO. |
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