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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
My 2002-vintage computer has a recently-installed CPU and LCD display.
The computer locks up with the display pivoted 90 degrees via irotate.exe while playing AVI files using Nero ShowTime, producing a medium-high-pitched sound. The lockup seems to happen only when the display is pivoted. Nero ShowTime is the only program I have which will show AVI movies while the display is pivoted. The last time this happened, CPU temperature was 43 degrees C and CPU utilization was about 30 percent. I reset the computer to recover from these lockups, only to find that CPU hyper-threading is disabled until I restart Windows, which runs very slowly, and then restart the computer and Windows again. Does anyone have suggestions about how to stop this lockup while the display is pivoted? System description Windows 32-bit XP SP3, Nero 6.6 including ShowTime 2.0.1.9, irotate.exe 1.37, Microsoft Security Essentials, 2010 Tune-up Utilities. Dell 2700FP LCD monitor A02, 1600x1200 pixels (pivoted to 1200x1600), 32-bit color, DVI cable. Gigabyte GA-8IEXP motherboard (533MHz FSB), 1.5GB PC-2700 ECC memory. 3.06GHz Pentium 4 CPU (Northwood with hyper-threading). Radeon 9000 AGP-4X video board. Samsung 200GB and 250GB IDE internal drives, Samsung 1.5TB eSATA external drive, SiI 3512 eSATA controller board, 6Mbps DSL via 2-Wire AT&T 2701HG-B gateway. |
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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
On 5/7/2011 3:15 PM, Russell May wrote:
My 2002-vintage computer has a recently-installed CPU and LCD display. The computer locks up with the display pivoted 90 degrees via irotate.exe while playing AVI files using Nero ShowTime, producing a medium-high-pitched sound. The lockup seems to happen only when the display is pivoted. Nero ShowTime is the only program I have which will show AVI movies while the display is pivoted. The last time this happened, CPU temperature was 43 degrees C and CPU utilization was about 30 percent. I reset the computer to recover from these lockups, only to find that CPU hyper-threading is disabled until I restart Windows, which runs very slowly, and then restart the computer and Windows again. Does anyone have suggestions about how to stop this lockup while the display is pivoted? System description Windows 32-bit XP SP3, Nero 6.6 including ShowTime 2.0.1.9, irotate.exe 1.37, Microsoft Security Essentials, 2010 Tune-up Utilities. Dell 2700FP LCD monitor A02, 1600x1200 pixels (pivoted to 1200x1600), 32-bit color, DVI cable. Gigabyte GA-8IEXP motherboard (533MHz FSB), 1.5GB PC-2700 ECC memory. 3.06GHz Pentium 4 CPU (Northwood with hyper-threading). Radeon 9000 AGP-4X video board. Samsung 200GB and 250GB IDE internal drives, Samsung 1.5TB eSATA external drive, SiI 3512 eSATA controller board, 6Mbps DSL via 2-Wire AT&T 2701HG-B gateway. Anything in the Event logs? I don't think you can get to this point in Safe Mode, but it might be worth a shot. I'm guessing that you have a driver conflict between the video driver and Nero. And either going to newer or older drivers (both Nero and/or video drivers) might be the way to go. You could also try that Performance slider under the Display Properties as well. As that would probably fix it, but changing the driver(s) version(s) would probably be better if possible. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0 Centrino Core2 Duo 2GHz - 1.5GB - Windows 7 |
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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
On Sat, 07 May 2011 15:15:33 -0500, Russell May
wrote: My 2002-vintage computer has a recently-installed CPU and LCD display. The computer locks up with the display pivoted 90 degrees via irotate.exe while playing AVI files using Nero ShowTime, producing a medium-high-pitched sound. The lockup seems to happen only when the display is pivoted. Nero ShowTime is the only program I have which will show AVI movies while the display is pivoted. The last time this happened, CPU temperature was 43 degrees C and CPU utilization was about 30 percent. I reset the computer to recover from these lockups, only to find that CPU hyper-threading is disabled until I restart Windows, which runs very slowly, and then restart the computer and Windows again. Does anyone have suggestions about how to stop this lockup while the display is pivoted? System description Windows 32-bit XP SP3, Nero 6.6 including ShowTime 2.0.1.9, irotate.exe 1.37, Microsoft Security Essentials, 2010 Tune-up Utilities. Dell 2700FP LCD monitor A02, 1600x1200 pixels (pivoted to correctionell 2007FP 1200x1600), 32-bit color, DVI cable. Gigabyte GA-8IEXP motherboard (533MHz FSB), 1.5GB PC-2700 ECC memory. 3.06GHz Pentium 4 CPU (Northwood with hyper-threading). Radeon 9000 AGP-4X video board. Samsung 200GB and 250GB IDE internal drives, Samsung 1.5TB eSATA external drive, SiI 3512 eSATA controller board, 6Mbps DSL via 2-Wire AT&T 2701HG-B gateway. |
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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
Russell May wrote:
My 2002-vintage computer has a recently-installed CPU and LCD display. The computer locks up with the display pivoted 90 degrees via irotate.exe while playing AVI files using Nero ShowTime, producing a medium-high-pitched sound. The lockup seems to happen only when the display is pivoted. Nero ShowTime is the only program I have which will show AVI movies while the display is pivoted. The last time this happened, CPU temperature was 43 degrees C and CPU utilization was about 30 percent. I reset the computer to recover from these lockups, only to find that CPU hyper-threading is disabled until I restart Windows, which runs very slowly, and then restart the computer and Windows again. Does anyone have suggestions about how to stop this lockup while the display is pivoted? System description Windows 32-bit XP SP3, Nero 6.6 including ShowTime 2.0.1.9, irotate.exe 1.37, Microsoft Security Essentials, 2010 Tune-up Utilities. Dell 2700FP LCD monitor A02, 1600x1200 pixels (pivoted to 1200x1600), 32-bit color, DVI cable. Gigabyte GA-8IEXP motherboard (533MHz FSB), 1.5GB PC-2700 ECC memory. 3.06GHz Pentium 4 CPU (Northwood with hyper-threading). Radeon 9000 AGP-4X video board. Samsung 200GB and 250GB IDE internal drives, Samsung 1.5TB eSATA external drive, SiI 3512 eSATA controller board, 6Mbps DSL via 2-Wire AT&T 2701HG-B gateway. Have you looked in the Entechtaiwan forums ? I would expect your Radeon 9000 to work, at least a bit better than some of the integrated Northbridge graphics. ATI and Nvidia cards usually have the best feature support (stuff just works). http://forums.entechtaiwan.com/index.php?board=9.0 I'm intrigued by your "medium-high-pitched sound". That could be coming from a switching converter circuit, but exactly which one, and why, I can't tell from the symptoms so far. ATI might have a rotation function in their software (CCC), but depending on when driver development stopped, it might be broken by SP3. And irotate can't do any better than the CCC software, because irotate isn't rotating the image itself. (There is some rotation software, that actually recomputes what the image should look like, and displays that instead of the original image, at some cost to GPU or CPU performance.) http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...threadid=96189 "Need help on how to rotate monitor(orientation of display)" http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-04ac30ec3642/ Paul |
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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
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Paul wrote: ... ATI and Nvidia cards usually have the best feature support (stuff just works). Huh? Which galaxy does this happen in? As here, ATI and Nvidia has an extremely high failure rate. And I avoid either of them for my general purpose computers. Only on my dedicated game PCs use them. And didn't Nvidia already fork out $200 million in a class action lawsuit? They didn't pay this because their stuff just works. But rather because they don't work. Nvidia settles bumpgate class action lawsuit http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...action-lawsuit Lawsuit claims Nvidia hid serious flaw in graphics chips http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-...hics-chips-439 -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
On May 8, 10:39*am, "BillW50" wrote:
, Paul wrote: ... ATI and Nvidia cards usually have the best feature support (stuff just works). Huh? Which galaxy does this happen in? As here, ATI and Nvidia has an extremely high failure rate. And I avoid either of them for my general purpose computers. Only on my dedicated game PCs use them. And didn't Nvidia already fork out $200 million in a class action lawsuit? They didn't pay this because their stuff just works. But rather because they don't work. Nvidia settles bumpgate class action lawsuithttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1736698/nvidia-settles-bumpg... Lawsuit claims Nvidia hid serious flaw in graphics chipshttp://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/lawsuit-claims-nvidia-hid... -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 I believe he was referring to software that works and not hardware. Please try to follow along! {B^)} |
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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
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, Abi Normal typed: On May 8, 10:39 am, "BillW50" wrote: , Paul wrote: ... ATI and Nvidia cards usually have the best feature support (stuff just works). Huh? Which galaxy does this happen in? As here, ATI and Nvidia has an extremely high failure rate. And I avoid either of them for my general purpose computers. Only on my dedicated game PCs use them. And didn't Nvidia already fork out $200 million in a class action lawsuit? They didn't pay this because their stuff just works. But rather because they don't work. Nvidia settles bumpgate class action lawsuithttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1736698/nvidia-settles-bumpg... Lawsuit claims Nvidia hid serious flaw in graphics chipshttp://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/lawsuit-claims-nvidia-hid... I believe he was referring to software that works and not hardware. Please try to follow along! {B^)} What good is the software when the hardware doesn't work? So perhaps you should try to follow along. Plus many say that ATI and Nvidia software isn't so hot anyway. "Remember when the first Radeon came out. They (ATI) were found to have cheated and tweaked their drivers to do extremely well on benchmarks, but in reality, sucked at other real world applications?" Why I think ATI sucks and won't buy their hardware if I can avoid it http://www.techimo.com/forum/graphic...can-avoid.html And a simple Google search will show zillions of other people who don't buy that neither company has such great software either. -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2 |
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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
BillW Spewed forth
And a simple Google search will show "zillions" of other people who don't buy that neither company has such great software either. Very factual, thanks! So you advocate integrated graphics only? |
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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
On May 8, 1:11*pm, "BillW50" wrote:
, Abi Normal typed: On May 8, 10:39 am, "BillW50" wrote: , Paul wrote: ... ATI and Nvidia cards usually have the best feature support (stuff just works). Huh? Which galaxy does this happen in? As here, ATI and Nvidia has an extremely high failure rate. And I avoid either of them for my general purpose computers. Only on my dedicated game PCs use them. And didn't Nvidia already fork out $200 million in a class action lawsuit? They didn't pay this because their stuff just works. But rather because they don't work. Nvidia settles bumpgate class action lawsuithttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1736698/nvidia-settles-bumpg... Lawsuit claims Nvidia hid serious flaw in graphics chipshttp://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/lawsuit-claims-nvidia-hid... I believe he was referring to software that works and not hardware. Please try to follow along! {B^)} What good is the software when the hardware doesn't work? So perhaps you should try to follow along. Plus many say that ATI and Nvidia software isn't so hot anyway. "Remember when the first Radeon came out. They (ATI) were found to have cheated and tweaked their drivers to do extremely well on benchmarks, but in reality, sucked at other real world applications?" Why I think ATI sucks and won't buy their hardware if I can avoid ithttp://www.techimo.com/forum/graphics-cards-displays/34498-why-i-thin... And a simple Google search will show zillions of other people who don't buy that neither company has such great software either. -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2 Actually, the ATI benchmark cheats were pre-Radeon, back in '94 or '95. I know well, because I was the author of the version of the PC Magazine benchmark that was cheated upon with special code added to drivers to look for repetitive sequences of primitive operations, still the best way to measure raw horsepower of hardware plus close to the metal drivers. (Actually, benchmarks written to the bare iron are still truly the best, but writing software to talk directly to a graphics chip has become a black art, and ever so much more complicated given the computing power on the graphics chips themselves.) PC Magazine, rather than exposing the cheaters in public, simply redesigned the graphics benchmarks. It's not the first time, nor is it the last time, that a hardware company, usually graphics, has done something to the hardware or software to make their product look better than it really is. Overclocked graphics cards are very common, leading to burnout or malfunction of graphics chips run beyond specification. Back before the day of the ATI cheats, graphics cards manufacturers would put different fixed frequency oscillators on cards, to drive graphics chips beyond spec. Now it is even easier to tweak card performance with the variable oscillator circuitry on a card. You can get software for free to overclock your nVidia or ATI graphics card. Honestly, the two-horse graphics race between AMD/ATI and nVidia is now a pretty awful one to watch. Both seem to have regular disasters, but there are no other alternatives any more, except for integrated graphics. I'd like to hear one of their marketing shills spell the work R-E-L-I-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y... Ben Myers |
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Lockup playing AVI file with pivoted display
On May 7, 4:15*pm, Russell May wrote:
My 2002-vintage computer has a recently-installed CPU and LCD display. The computer locks up with the display pivoted 90 degrees via irotate.exe while playing AVI files using Nero ShowTime, producing a medium-high-pitched sound. The lockup seems to happen only when the display is pivoted. Nero ShowTime is the only program I have which will show AVI movies while the display is pivoted. The last time this happened, CPU temperature was 43 degrees C and CPU utilization was about 30 percent. I reset the computer to recover from these lockups, only to find that CPU hyper-threading is disabled until I restart Windows, which runs very slowly, and then restart the computer and Windows again. Does anyone have suggestions about how to stop this lockup while the display is pivoted? System description Windows 32-bit XP SP3, Nero 6.6 including ShowTime 2.0.1.9, irotate.exe 1.37, Microsoft Security Essentials, 2010 Tune-up Utilities. Dell 2700FP LCD monitor A02, 1600x1200 pixels (pivoted to 1200x1600), 32-bit color, DVI cable. Gigabyte GA-8IEXP motherboard (533MHz FSB), 1.5GB PC-2700 ECC memory. 3.06GHz Pentium 4 CPU (Northwood with hyper-threading). Radeon 9000 AGP-4X video board. Samsung 200GB and 250GB IDE internal drives, Samsung 1.5TB eSATA external drive, SiI 3512 eSATA controller board, 6Mbps DSL via 2-Wire AT&T 2701HG-B gateway. Have you given any thought to using a different piece of software to play the AVI files? Not the Nero one? There are plenty of AVI players around, many of them free and functional... Ben Myers |
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