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New Sound Card from Creative with full optical out?
Hello,
Any word on Creative Labs next gaming PC sound card? I noticed the review on Tom's Hardware of the EMU from creative labs with sports full standard optical connectors. I would love to hook up my PC to my preamp and get full surround out. I currently have the Audigy 2ZS which does not have a true optical out for standard preamp decoding. I can get some 2 speaker out or if I was one of the few people whose preamp had read inputs, I could get surround. I really wouldn't be interested in buying a speaker system for my PC since I've already invested thousands in my preamp, amp and speakers. I'd love to be able to take advantage of them. |
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Any word on Creative Labs next gaming PC sound card? Nothing that I know of. They didn't show any new stuff at E3 or Comdex to my knowledge, so they wanna milk their ZS line a bit more methinks. I currently have the Audigy 2ZS which does not have a true optical out for standard preamp decoding. Dunno exactly what you mean by that. The ZS doesn't have optical out at all, and what is "standard preamp decoding" anyway? Creative's cards have no hardware ENcoder, so the only way you'd get surround out of any of them using digital outputs is if you have material with pre-encoded surround sound on it (such as DVD movies or music). That's regardless of wether you use coaxial or optical; these are exactly the same type of connection except - obviously - one of them carries sound electrically and the other via a beam of light. |
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Yep - the optical out will only give me stereo unless as you say it has been
encoded for the special speakers that decode the surround out. The standard optical cable is used in their music emu card. Hopefully the next round will let all of us with a receiver or preamp have a decent gaming pc for our TV's. "Lenny" wrote in message ... Any word on Creative Labs next gaming PC sound card? Nothing that I know of. They didn't show any new stuff at E3 or Comdex to my knowledge, so they wanna milk their ZS line a bit more methinks. I currently have the Audigy 2ZS which does not have a true optical out for standard preamp decoding. Dunno exactly what you mean by that. The ZS doesn't have optical out at all, and what is "standard preamp decoding" anyway? Creative's cards have no hardware ENcoder, so the only way you'd get surround out of any of them using digital outputs is if you have material with pre-encoded surround sound on it (such as DVD movies or music). That's regardless of wether you use coaxial or optical; these are exactly the same type of connection except - obviously - one of them carries sound electrically and the other via a beam of light. |
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Am Sa 15.06.04 schrieb Lenny:
Dunno exactly what you mean by that. The ZS doesn't have optical out at all, and what is "standard preamp decoding" anyway? Creative's cards have no hardware ENcoder, so the only way you'd get surround out of any of them using digital outputs is if you have material with pre-encoded surround sound on it (such as DVD movies or music). I don't know of a Creative card with a encoder, but there exists a Asus motherboard called A7N8X-X Deluxe (A-Socket) which got a internal Dolby Digital Encoder. The positioning in games works good, but there are less effects. Also you could not use DVD-Audio, but this doesn't care on digital connections, because it is disabled anyway when playing DVD- Audio. By the way, i also would like to have a Audigy 2 with a internal Dolby Digital Encoder... --* Grüße, Pierre |
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I sent them a tech request because I couldn't find any better way of
contacting them. I also asked about it at Comdex last year. I'll bug them again at Comdex this year. Are there any Creative Labs forums that people from Creative read? "Pierre Wasser" wrote in message ... Am Sa 15.06.04 schrieb Lenny: Dunno exactly what you mean by that. The ZS doesn't have optical out at all, and what is "standard preamp decoding" anyway? Creative's cards have no hardware ENcoder, so the only way you'd get surround out of any of them using digital outputs is if you have material with pre-encoded surround sound on it (such as DVD movies or music). I don't know of a Creative card with a encoder, but there exists a Asus motherboard called A7N8X-X Deluxe (A-Socket) which got a internal Dolby Digital Encoder. The positioning in games works good, but there are less effects. Also you could not use DVD-Audio, but this doesn't care on digital connections, because it is disabled anyway when playing DVD- Audio. By the way, i also would like to have a Audigy 2 with a internal Dolby Digital Encoder... -- Grüße, Pierre |
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Am Sa 19.06.04 schrieb boe:
I sent them a tech request because I couldn't find any better way of contacting them. I also asked about it at Comdex last year. I'll bug them again at Comdex this year. Are there any Creative Labs forums that people from Creative read? I don't know. Another Story: Yesterday I wrote them a E-Mail because everytime I start the "Speaker Setup" Applet, my settings in the "THX Console" are set to default values. They wrote me back that I should install the THX Console Update. OK I thought, I have it already installed, but to eliminate all doubt, I installed it again. No change, it is still that when I open the "Speaker Setup", on the next opening of the THX Console, all my settings that I made are lost. Narf! I hope they will do some bugfixing, it is annoying to make all this settings again and again on a soundcard I payed 80 Euro for. Additionally there are games (the ones from Rockstar which uses the Miles(?)-Engine like GTA III and GTA:VC or Manhunt) which resets my 5.1 configuration to 4.1, then the bass redirection is also disabled. Which needs me to go into the "Speaker Setup", then I must start the THX Console again, and so on... Really annoying this obliviousness. Greets, Pierre |
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Thank you. Does this resolve the encoder issue? Will I be getting the true
surround with my preamp or will it be stereo split into more speakers? Woger MKII @wogerbox.co.nz wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:55:26 GMT, "boe" wrote: Hello, Any word on Creative Labs next gaming PC sound card? I noticed the review on Tom's Hardware of the EMU from creative labs with sports full standard optical connectors. I would love to hook up my PC to my preamp and get full surround out. I currently have the Audigy 2ZS which does not have a true optical out for standard preamp decoding. I can get some 2 speaker out or if I was one of the few people whose preamp had read inputs, I could get surround. I really wouldn't be interested in buying a speaker system for my PC since I've already invested thousands in my preamp, amp and speakers. I'd love to be able to take advantage of them. Creative makes a Add on card and so do these people http://www.hoontech.com/english/products/index.html |
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Thank you. Does this resolve the encoder issue? Will I be getting the true surround with my preamp or will it be stereo split into more speakers? Like I said, Creative's cards don't have on-board surround encoders so your decoder has nothing to decode. If you have to use optical out, you will have to settle with stereo for material that is not pre-encoded in some way (that typically being DVD movies). |
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I believe you are correct. I don't know what the issues are. I want to be
able to hook my PC to my Preamp through an optical connector. I want my Preamp to play back Call of Duty, Jedi, Q3, etc as well as DVD's in surround sound. I want it to know in Call of Duty if the shot is coming from behind me by the speaker it is coming from. I know this is possible if I buy the cambridge speaker system for pc's because of something within the cambridge system. I want to know if it is possible with a standard preamp /receiver and speakers. Thank you Woger MKII @wogerbox.co.nz wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:27:00 GMT, "boe" wrote: Thank you. Does this resolve the encoder issue? Will I be getting the true surround with my preamp or will it be stereo split into more speakers? I don't think you understand what you are on about at all you DO NOT USE a ENCODER at all, and it does not go into a Pre amp.. Your Amp will Decode the Digital stream from the Tos Link.. Woger MKII @wogerbox.co.nz wrote in message .. . On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:55:26 GMT, "boe" wrote: Hello, Any word on Creative Labs next gaming PC sound card? I noticed the review on Tom's Hardware of the EMU from creative labs with sports full standard optical connectors. I would love to hook up my PC to my preamp and get full surround out. I currently have the Audigy 2ZS which does not have a true optical out for standard preamp decoding. I can get some 2 speaker out or if I was one of the few people whose preamp had read inputs, I could get surround. I really wouldn't be interested in buying a speaker system for my PC since I've already invested thousands in my preamp, amp and speakers. I'd love to be able to take advantage of them. Creative makes a Add on card and so do these people http://www.hoontech.com/english/products/index.html |
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Am Mi 23.06.04 schrieb boe:
I believe you are correct. I don't know what the issues are. I want to be able to hook my PC to my Preamp through an optical connector. I want my Preamp to play back Call of Duty, Jedi, Q3, etc as well as DVD's in surround sound. I want it to know in Call of Duty if the shot is coming from behind me by the speaker it is coming from. I know this is possible if I buy the cambridge speaker system for pc's because of something within the cambridge system. I want to know if it is possible with a standard preamp /receiver and speakers. It is not possible to decode the digital output of a soundcard with a standard amp while playing games. Because the audigy can't encode the surround information into the digital output, it's got no encoder at all. If you want to play with surround-sound over a digital connection, you have to by a Motherbard with a Nvidia Soundstorm chipset, like this one: http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/sock...d/overview.htm But for now, there are unfortunately no Creative Cards which can do this. Movies and other -6Ch-Output preencoded material and -TOS-Link Games -6Ch-Output Greets, Pierre --* Grüße, Pierre |
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