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Memory for the P4P800 Deluxe
Before placing my order for a P4P800 Deluxe based system (P4 2.6CGHz
800MHz FSB) from Newegg, I would like to find out what my best options are in terms of memory. My intention is to initially "play it safe", not overclocking anything. Just use the system strictly at labeled/specified by the manufacturers. I would like to minimize chances for time-consuming issues, but I would also like to avoid these top-of-the-line components that come with a painful price tag (ouch!). So, I looked at the ASUS QVL for the P4P800 Deluxe and minimized the list to only: 1) 512MB modules (I need 2GB RAM in my system) 2) Modules that "support 4 modules inserted into both the blue and black slots as two pairs of Dual-channel memory". My first qusetion is: is limiting myself to memory that supports _two_ pairs of Dual-channel really worth it. Notice the empahsis here could be misleading: I definitely want two pairs, but is the requirement for having both pairs dual-channel really worth it? In other words, how much performance (percentage-wise) does this dual-channel feature buy me? Provided the answer for the above qusetion is positive, here is the reduced list I came up with: Apacer 77.10736.464 Brain Power B6U808-512M-SAM-400 CENTURY DXV2S8SSCCD3K27C Hynix HYMD264646B8J-D43 AA Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 Kingston KVR400X72C3A/512 MICRON MT16VDDT6464AG-40BC4 PSC AL6D8A53TK1-5B SAMSUNG M368L6423ETM-CCC Transcend TS64MLD64V4F3 Winbond W9451GCDB-5 On the other hand, I found this very inexpensive memory on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...ion=20-150-564 Which seems like it should be working with the P4P800, but is not on the QVL list. Also, I don't know whether I can get 2GB of it working in dual-channel. Any recommendations/comments regarding the above options? I am very interested to hear real-life experiences, especially regarding the possibility to overclock later, when I have some time "to experiment" (overclocking is something I have never done before). TIA, Lynn |
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hi Linux Lover,
My intention is to initially "play it safe", not overclocking anything. Just use the system strictly at labeled/specified by the manufacturers. I would like to minimize chances for time-consuming issues, but I would also like to avoid these top-of-the-line components that come with a painful price tag (ouch!). I'll have got two home-pc with P4P800 Deluxe mobo based... one runs (true) Samsung 256x2 PC3200 and the other one runs Crutial 256x2 PC3200, everything works fine and honestly, I don't see any difference in real life... everything seems to me all right ... with benchmark you might see some differences but everyone knows benchmarks doesn't reflect ordinary use of pc's... Regards, michel cr |
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Finally got my system running after some aggravation...
I have a P4/1.6A (hopefully temporary, left over from another upgrade) 3GB PC2100 (3x1G), one additional G to be installed tomorrow 200MB WD hard drive, 8MB cache NVidia Gforce4 MX 440 display adapter I would like to install a SCSI card, specifically the LSI Logic 160. I used it in my previous system, to service a 15k SCSI hard drive. Is anyone using a SCSI card in a P4C800-E Deluxe system? If so, what slot is recommended? Right now, I have no cards, since just about everything else is onboard. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. |
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I use an Adaptec 2940 in my P4C800-E. I have it in the 2nd slot from
the bottom for no specific reason. It controls an internal CDand an external CDR without problems. "Z Man" wrote: Finally got my system running after some aggravation... I have a P4/1.6A (hopefully temporary, left over from another upgrade) 3GB PC2100 (3x1G), one additional G to be installed tomorrow 200MB WD hard drive, 8MB cache NVidia Gforce4 MX 440 display adapter I would like to install a SCSI card, specifically the LSI Logic 160. I used it in my previous system, to service a 15k SCSI hard drive. Is anyone using a SCSI card in a P4C800-E Deluxe system? If so, what slot is recommended? Right now, I have no cards, since just about everything else is onboard. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. |
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"Tator Totor" wrote in message ...
I'll have got two home-pc with P4P800 Deluxe mobo based... one runs (true) Samsung 256x2 PC3200 and the other one runs Crutial 256x2 PC3200, everything works fine and honestly, I don't see any difference in real life... everything seems to me all right ... with benchmark you might see some differences but everyone knows benchmarks doesn't reflect ordinary use of pc's... Thank you, michel. You answered one question, regarding real life differences between different brands. The other concern I have is that if I don't follow _strictly_ ASUS QVL, I may luck out but I also may run into problems similar to the ones described he http://secure.newegg.com/app/Custrat...tem=20-150-564 What do you think? Should I play it safe and stick strictly to the QVL? |
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Linux Lover wrote:
.... What do you think? Should I play it safe and stick strictly to the QVL? 1. Memory listed on the QVL has been tested by Asus - there is other good RAM not listed. But: If you have trouble with your mainboard and use RAM listed on the QVL, you are on the safe side in your discussion with the board vendor or Asus, resp. (I _had_ trouble with my P4P800_D - 1st rev - it died suddenly...) 2. I use 2x512MB TwinMOS PC3200 with Winbond chips CL2.5 (where the chips are listed), but have good experience with Infineon, too. 3. I have no doubt that RAM modules listed for the resp. mainboard on the web sites of Crucial or Mushkin are of excellent quality and harmonize with the board, too. Roy |
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hi- Linux Lover,
... The other concern I have is that if I don't follow _strictly_ ASUS QVL, I'll agree with Roy's comments... BTW I think Crutial-Micron and Samsung RAM modules are on the List published by ASUS. OTOH, one could be as confident with RAM warrenty as we are with mobo's, on both case it depends on manufacturers reputation. AFAIAC I wouldn't buy OEM RAM (maybe excepted the one from Samsung) nor would I buy expensive OCZ, Corsair modules which cost 3 time the price from a well known RAM manufacturer such as Dane Elec (10 years warranty). -- cordialement, michel cr |
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The bottom slot is the one farthest from the CPU, correct?
"JFH" wrote in message ... I use an Adaptec 2940 in my P4C800-E. I have it in the 2nd slot from the bottom for no specific reason. It controls an internal CDand an external CDR without problems. "Z Man" wrote: Finally got my system running after some aggravation... I have a P4/1.6A (hopefully temporary, left over from another upgrade) 3GB PC2100 (3x1G), one additional G to be installed tomorrow 200MB WD hard drive, 8MB cache NVidia Gforce4 MX 440 display adapter I would like to install a SCSI card, specifically the LSI Logic 160. I used it in my previous system, to service a 15k SCSI hard drive. Is anyone using a SCSI card in a P4C800-E Deluxe system? If so, what slot is recommended? Right now, I have no cards, since just about everything else is onboard. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. |
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I use a Adaptec 2960 U160 controller in Slot 2 to run 3 Atlas 10K U160
drives and 1 Ultra Wide drive without any problems. I only have an IDE DVD-RW connected to the board. "Z Man" wrote in message et... Finally got my system running after some aggravation... I have a P4/1.6A (hopefully temporary, left over from another upgrade) 3GB PC2100 (3x1G), one additional G to be installed tomorrow 200MB WD hard drive, 8MB cache NVidia Gforce4 MX 440 display adapter I would like to install a SCSI card, specifically the LSI Logic 160. I used it in my previous system, to service a 15k SCSI hard drive. Is anyone using a SCSI card in a P4C800-E Deluxe system? If so, what slot is recommended? Right now, I have no cards, since just about everything else is onboard. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. |
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Tator Totor wrote:
.... a well known RAM manufacturer such as Dane Elec (10 years warranty). .... 10 years from now - if the company still exists at that time SCNR Roy |
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