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"Core-X" i9 with 18 cores [CPU wars escalate]



 
 
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Old June 3rd 17, 02:14 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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still on socket 2066, but will cost 2 kilo-dollars

tech specs on Intel website still a bit thin, like TDP and max frequency
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Old June 3rd 17, 11:33 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 11:14:09 AM UTC+8, Flasherly wrote:

Ordered and got this earlier in the week -
AMD FX-8300 Vishera 8-Core 3.3 GHz (4GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W
FD8300WMHKBOX
[Borderline sale pricing comparatively to an E-series, "energy
efficient" and also 95-watt model for $40 more.]
Let me double-check the math:
$2000/$89.99 means 22 processors equals 178 cores.


Also heard that AMD dropped the price of R7. Wonder why?
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Old June 3rd 17, 07:58 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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wrote:
On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 11:14:09 AM UTC+8, Flasherly wrote:
Ordered and got this earlier in the week -
AMD FX-8300 Vishera 8-Core 3.3 GHz (4GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W
FD8300WMHKBOX
[Borderline sale pricing comparatively to an E-series, "energy
efficient" and also 95-watt model for $40 more.]
Let me double-check the math:
$2000/$89.99 means 22 processors equals 178 cores.


Also heard that AMD dropped the price of R7. Wonder why?


It's a price war.

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...whitehaven-cpu

But it's not going to magically revive the desktop business.

*******

The 18-core for $2000 isn't good value, because
it's more suited to commercial server applications,
than to a desktop. Your 7ZIP compression run will go
faster, but the decompression step will be as slow
as ever. If you're the kind of person who leaves
four videos rendering in the background, then it'll be
a win for you.

If you're just a gamer, not so much. I'm not aware of
any games designed for that many cores. Maybe Fritz Chess
can scale to use them, but not much else.

What the 18-core processor will be doing, is a lot
of benchmarks. Until the thrill wears off.

Paul
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Old June 4th 17, 05:35 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2017 14:58:55 -0400, Paul
wrote:

It's a price war.

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...whitehaven-cpu

But it's not going to magically revive the desktop business.

*******

The 18-core for $2000 isn't good value, because
it's more suited to commercial server applications,
than to a desktop. Your 7ZIP compression run will go
faster, but the decompression step will be as slow
as ever. If you're the kind of person who leaves
four videos rendering in the background, then it'll be
a win for you.

If you're just a gamer, not so much. I'm not aware of
any games designed for that many cores. Maybe Fritz Chess
can scale to use them, but not much else.

What the 18-core processor will be doing, is a lot
of benchmarks. Until the thrill wears off.

Paul


I've seen the benchmarks on AMD's non-Ryzen octal and it's also
disturbing. And that was an E-series, further Bulldozer technology
adjustments, halfway through its life span and ostensibly worthy of
mention as Vishera.

What that means is there's 95-watts is the tip of an iceberg that's
capable of drawing 300-watts with all 8 cores fully engaged. Perhaps
a minor distinction to however AMD's processor-dependency Turbo Mode
is triggered for increasing core speeds by a factor of one-quarter
faster.

The reviews have been around for some time, and no less apt to involve
a gamer setup, tickled-pink about running 4.5GHz on water cooling with
some sort of "extreme" placed in MB labeling, capable of non-linear MB
power distribution over stock operating characteristics. (Most MBs
when broaching this territory are quick to red-line -- to most
definitely not fit an upper 225-watt Vishera model into their
socket.)

What not all benchmark and reviews reveal is an extremity of heat
generated on MBs to satisfy that power draw. 200 degree Fahrenheit,
nor the latest generation of solid-state capacitors, is not of
significant assurance between those for whom new octal builds fail due
to a MB melt-down.

Of course applicability, how one approaches stressing stated limits,
should offer some residual results. Whether, conversely, the
processor's multiplier is reduced and under-clocked would seem easiest
to first approach before setting up program scenarios for engaging
core multiples.

That's my intended plan after a favorably impression from implementing
it on a quadcore. Besides, there's nothing whatsoever "Extreme" about
an expenditure in parts I chose to have, a bare minimum, eight cores
accessible. Both their limitations to instruction threading and, all
of the above, in a drawback of underlying efficiency should not suffer
an impression beyond applicable engagement and benefit to a basic
budget, eight-core build.
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Old June 4th 17, 02:23 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 00:35:56 -0400, Flasherly
wrote:

Opened the four boxes & put it together: mem,cpu,mb. Nothing but the
PS hooked up. It's running 3.3ghz on stock cooler w/ BIOS reporting
both system and CPU at 95 deg F (43C).

All new at $200. . .

GA-78LMT-USB3 (rev. 6.0) AM3+ Motherboard 59.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB DDR3 1600 34.99

AMD FX-8300 Vishera 8-Core 3.3 GHz 95W FD8300WMHKBOX 89.99

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - w/ 120mm PWM Fan 24.99

Why a Fx AMD eight-core sits right the top of the chart ratings for
any CPU -- for value.
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Old June 4th 17, 08:13 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On 04/06/17 13:16, Michael N wrote:
RobH wrote on June 4, 2017

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...whitehaven-cpu


In case you didn't know, Whitehaven is a small town in West Cumbria, UK.
Maybe they named it after the town.


On the other hand, maybe they didn't...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteh...ambiguation%29


Michael N.


Blimey, even in the USA as well!. I take back what I said earlier.
 




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