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Old September 3rd 03, 06:17 PM
Jethro[AGHL]
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Default Upgrade from Gf3-Ti200

Looking at either a MSI FX5600-VTDR128 (CAN$237) or MSI FX5600-TDR256
(CAN $267).
The only differences I see are that the VTDR has VIVO capabilities with
the fancy remote control which don't excite me as I have another PC for
playing movies on the TV.
Any other pro\cons between either card? I was leaning towards the
5600-TDR256 to get more RAM on the card.
Running an AMD 2400+ and using it for games like HL2 which is out soon.

Any thoughts?
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Old September 3rd 03, 07:29 PM
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Jethro[AGHL] wrote:
Looking at either a MSI FX5600-VTDR128 (CAN$237) or MSI FX5600-TDR256
(CAN $267).
The only differences I see are that the VTDR has VIVO capabilities with
the fancy remote control which don't excite me as I have another PC for
playing movies on the TV.
Any other pro\cons between either card? I was leaning towards the
5600-TDR256 to get more RAM on the card.
Running an AMD 2400+ and using it for games like HL2 which is out soon.

Any thoughts?


The 5600 is definitely an upgrade. But I'd recommend going for
something without any frills and just find the biggest badass you can.
256 definitely. Also take a close look at the default core/mem clocks
and see if you can find a "pre-tweaked" card (if possible).

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Old September 3rd 03, 10:15 PM
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"Jethro[AGHL]" wrote in message
...
Looking at either a MSI FX5600-VTDR128 (CAN$237) or MSI FX5600-TDR256
(CAN $267).
The only differences I see are that the VTDR has VIVO capabilities with
the fancy remote control which don't excite me as I have another PC for
playing movies on the TV.
Any other pro\cons between either card? I was leaning towards the
5600-TDR256 to get more RAM on the card.
Running an AMD 2400+ and using it for games like HL2 which is out soon.


Having 256MB ram only helps if you use very high resolutions;
1600x1200 or higher, while gaming. 128MB and 256MB are identical in most
games I've seen running at 1024x768.

There are some reviews on www.tomshardware.com that detail the differences
between 128 and 256.


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Old September 3rd 03, 10:18 PM
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just make sure it's a 5600 ultra and not a 5600 vanilla...


"Jethro[AGHL]" wrote in message
...
Looking at either a MSI FX5600-VTDR128 (CAN$237) or MSI FX5600-TDR256
(CAN $267).
The only differences I see are that the VTDR has VIVO capabilities with
the fancy remote control which don't excite me as I have another PC for
playing movies on the TV.
Any other pro\cons between either card? I was leaning towards the
5600-TDR256 to get more RAM on the card.
Running an AMD 2400+ and using it for games like HL2 which is out soon.

Any thoughts?
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Old September 4th 03, 07:18 PM
Jethro[AGHL]
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SpaceWalker wrote:

just make sure it's a 5600 ultra and not a 5600 vanilla...


From what's listed here 'best price retailer' I don't see an "ultra"
unit for sale.
http://www.pccyber.ca/scrMain2.asp?product_types_id=26

I see a MSI Ti4600-VTD for $417??? Doesn't that sound way out. Would
that be that much better than a FX5600?
I know the 5200's are crap but the 5600 is up there isn't it?

Thanks for you input.


"Jethro[AGHL]" wrote in message
...
Looking at either a MSI FX5600-VTDR128 (CAN$237) or MSI FX5600-TDR256
(CAN $267).
The only differences I see are that the VTDR has VIVO capabilities with
the fancy remote control which don't excite me as I have another PC for
playing movies on the TV.
Any other pro\cons between either card? I was leaning towards the
5600-TDR256 to get more RAM on the card.
Running an AMD 2400+ and using it for games like HL2 which is out soon.

Any thoughts?
--
Jethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger
Phat Clan: http://phats.clanpages.com
Reply Email: jeff (at) tibben (dot) ca



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Old September 4th 03, 08:41 AM
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if u are even considering play HL2 then forget either 5600 series or the
9600 series. just get a 9800 non pro or a 9700 pro if u can find a cheap
deal. i have always found its easier to overclock atis than nvidias. u might
have a different opinion. also the 9800 non pro is easily overclockable to
the pro speeds if u up the agp voltage a lil bit on the bios . better yet is
flashing it with a 9800 pro bios which makes it even better. it sets the
speeds to a stock 9800 pro card and then o/c is even more tempting. but for
the new directx 9 games coming out stick to the highest series as the middle
and lower ones will perish without much ado.
"Jethro[AGHL]" wrote in message
...
Looking at either a MSI FX5600-VTDR128 (CAN$237) or MSI FX5600-TDR256
(CAN $267).
The only differences I see are that the VTDR has VIVO capabilities with
the fancy remote control which don't excite me as I have another PC for
playing movies on the TV.
Any other pro\cons between either card? I was leaning towards the
5600-TDR256 to get more RAM on the card.
Running an AMD 2400+ and using it for games like HL2 which is out soon.

Any thoughts?
--
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Reply Email: jeff (at) tibben (dot) ca



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Old September 4th 03, 07:13 PM
Jethro[AGHL]
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"[D.A]!@#Bourne" wrote:

if u are even considering play HL2 then forget either 5600 series or the
9600 series. just get a 9800 non pro or a 9700 pro if u can find a cheap
deal. i have always found its easier to overclock atis than nvidias. u might
have a different opinion. also the 9800 non pro is easily overclockable to
the pro speeds if u up the agp voltage a lil bit on the bios . better yet is
flashing it with a 9800 pro bios which makes it even better. it sets the
speeds to a stock 9800 pro card and then o/c is even more tempting. but for
the new directx 9 games coming out stick to the highest series as the middle
and lower ones will perish without much ado.


Here's the list of cards available from the 'best price' retailer
closest to me.
http://www.pccyber.ca/scrMain2.asp?product_types_id=26

ATI cards available are over $500 taxes in so that's way out of range.
The 9800 Pro Retail is lowest at $499 (plus 15% tax)
9700 Pro 128Mb is $527 and 9800 Pro Retail 128Mb is $577



"Jethro[AGHL]" wrote in message
...
Looking at either a MSI FX5600-VTDR128 (CAN$237) or MSI FX5600-TDR256
(CAN $267).
The only differences I see are that the VTDR has VIVO capabilities with
the fancy remote control which don't excite me as I have another PC for
playing movies on the TV.
Any other pro\cons between either card? I was leaning towards the
5600-TDR256 to get more RAM on the card.
Running an AMD 2400+ and using it for games like HL2 which is out soon.

Any thoughts?
--
Jethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger
Phat Clan: http://phats.clanpages.com
Reply Email: jeff (at) tibben (dot) ca



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Old September 8th 03, 12:15 AM
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The FX5600 isn't fast enough to run any games that require 256 MB of memory.
Save your $30 and get the VTDR128.

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"Jethro[AGHL]" wrote in message
...
Looking at either a MSI FX5600-VTDR128 (CAN$237) or MSI FX5600-TDR256
(CAN $267).
The only differences I see are that the VTDR has VIVO capabilities with
the fancy remote control which don't excite me as I have another PC for
playing movies on the TV.
Any other pro\cons between either card? I was leaning towards the
5600-TDR256 to get more RAM on the card.
Running an AMD 2400+ and using it for games like HL2 which is out soon.

Any thoughts?
--
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Reply Email: jeff (at) tibben (dot) ca



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Old September 8th 03, 08:21 PM
Jethro[AGHL]
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First of One wrote:

The FX5600 isn't fast enough to run any games that require 256 MB of memory.
Save your $30 and get the VTDR128.


Is the FX5600 video cards generally ****e over all or a worthy upgrade?
I thought I saw people saying that if it wasn't an 'Ultra' then don't
bother. But the local supplier doesn't seem to have any 'Ultra' type
cards.
Is there really a big diifference?


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"Jethro[AGHL]" wrote in message
...
Looking at either a MSI FX5600-VTDR128 (CAN$237) or MSI FX5600-TDR256
(CAN $267).
The only differences I see are that the VTDR has VIVO capabilities with
the fancy remote control which don't excite me as I have another PC for
playing movies on the TV.
Any other pro\cons between either card? I was leaning towards the
5600-TDR256 to get more RAM on the card.
Running an AMD 2400+ and using it for games like HL2 which is out soon.

Any thoughts?
--
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Reply Email: jeff (at) tibben (dot) ca



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