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NVIDIA DISASTER: thousands of GPUs faulty
* DRS:
I have an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium S939 Nforce 4 motherboard. I have the Nvidia Ethernet driver installed but not MediaShield, etc. To date I have had no problem with the Nvidia Gigabit Ethernet port. I had a workstation that used the nForce Professional (workstation variant of the nForce 4) and also had the Nvidia integrated NIC, and while I also didn't had any real problems the performance was just bad. The problem with the nForce 4 lies in the integrated firewall which lead to data corruption (esp. with ftp) if active. Depending on the BIOS on some systems it was still active even when the Nvidia Firewall software hadn't been installed. In these cases it was necessary to install the software, deactivate the firewall and then remove the software to avoid these problems. Benjamin |
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NVIDIA DISASTER: thousands of GPUs faulty
"Benjamin Gawert" wrote in message
[...] The problem with the nForce 4 lies in the integrated firewall which lead to data corruption (esp. with ftp) if active. Which I never used because I read the ASUS motherboard newsgroup. Depending on the BIOS on some systems it was still active even when the Nvidia Firewall software hadn't been installed. In these cases it was necessary to install the software, deactivate the firewall and then remove the software to avoid these problems. That's nasty. |
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NVIDIA DISASTER: thousands of GPUs faulty
DRS wrote:
"Benjamin Gawert" wrote in message [...] The problem with the nForce 4 lies in the integrated firewall which lead to data corruption (esp. with ftp) if active. Which I never used because I read the ASUS motherboard newsgroup. Depending on the BIOS on some systems it was still active even when the Nvidia Firewall software hadn't been installed. In these cases it was necessary to install the software, deactivate the firewall and then remove the software to avoid these problems. That's nasty. That's nasty is right and that's precisely what I am trying to relate to deimos...there was a time, for more than a year...that NV on-board NICS were unusable due to such problems: bluescreens, data corruption, you had no choice but to use the 2nd NIC or drop one in yourself. And someone asked what this talk about NICs has to do with the current mess, the first is that nvidia has a history of manufacturing mistakes and instead of fixing the problem they simply release a new product. The NIC issue, the mis-valued resistor causing the infinite loop problem, HDD data corruption in the nforce 5 (6?) series, "soundstorm", improper chip packaging merely being the latest. There were other hardware issues and nvidia isn't the only company to have hardware issues (Hello to you too Creative Labs) but nvidia likes to play on what we have seen in action in this NG, in this thread: the power of anecdote vs. data. If you are a single user and you have used one or two boards in the past few years and kept your usage patterns the same chances are you might not have ever run into an issue...but if you are a vendor or if you deal with many many boards in a technical or integration capacity or if you collect failure data or if you have to support said failures, you begin to see the systemic problems and achieve a level of perspective far greater than a single person's anecdote. This is what nvidia doesn't want, aggregate data...I'm sure a recall would be mandated by accurate aggregate data and that would be prohibitively expensive and nvidia says, like they always have: let's ignore it and build something new! |
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NVIDIA DISASTER: thousands of GPUs faulty
Mr.E Solved! wrote:
That's nasty is right and that's precisely what I am trying to relate to deimos...there was a time, for more than a year...that NV on-board NICS were unusable due to such problems: bluescreens, data corruption, you had no choice but to use the 2nd NIC or drop one in yourself. Hmm... I built an nforce4-based machine for my brother years ago, and it's had no problems. It only has one NIC. |
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