Mis-representation ?

The seller has sold the card as "Not working", "Faulty", how much more
honest can the description be ?

I could see your point had these words been excluded from the auction, but
they weren't.

If he wanted to tell porkies why would he include the above words, do you
think it was to add value to his auction ??


"Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message
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"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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Nick Le Lievre wrote:
"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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Nick Le Lievre wrote:
Hi;

I bought this item on eBay





http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2769544 2
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on the basis of the information given which is the PCs recognise the
card but will not load the drivers. I have not recieved the card yet
but I`m starting to worry that I have not been given an honest
auction description as it would appear to be.

The most common genuine "fault" with these Creative Ti4400 cards is
bad ram which is obvious from the screen corruption there is no
mention of screen corruption in the auction description - so a
correct representation would not mention screen corruption which it
does not. However there is a possibility that the screen corruption
only occurs once the drivers have loaded giving him a great reason
to pretend he could not get the drivers loaded.

This auction





http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=27 3
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clearly states the problem I`m referring too and I would not have
bid on it.

I have seen screen corruption on my own Ti4200 when you overclock
the graphics memory too high this is only possible when the drivers
are loaded obviously - maybe I will be able to clock the memory
lower slowing down the card as a way around it - but I feel that if
screen corruption occurs it will be obvious to me when I test it
and that I have a right to feel cheated.

As I say don`t actually have the item yet - whats your view ?

You are an idiot.


I`m a gambler.

Yet before you even know for definate that you have lost , you accuse
the
seller of tricking you when he clearly stated it was ****ed.


I haven`t accused him or anything - I`m just preparing myself in the event
that he has told a few porkies - which I`m not saying he has at this
stage.

In article , Nick Le Lievre
writes

I sent refunds (admittedly overdue) to both the people who were not
satisfied with my service so its been sorted.

Six months later, with very bad grace and only after realising that
someone would point out it was you morphing your identity every time you
tried to offload some ****e on uk.adverts.computer. ****wit.

In article , Conor
writes

IT DOESN'T ****ING WELL WORK! How can you honestly leave negative
feedback if it doesn't work when he has said as much.

I hope someone mails the original seller to let him know what he's in
for. I feel sorry for him.

"Nick Le Lievre" wrote:

If I quit and gave up everytime something in my system wasn`t "working" I`d
be sitting here in 16 color 640 * 480 w/o sound or modem.

Your loss of the latter of those would be attractive to many, so I
suggest you adopt this policy with immediate effect.


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iv Paul iv

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:12:55 -0000, "Nick Le Lievre"
wrote:

I haven`t accused him or anything - I`m just preparing myself in the event
that he has told a few porkies - which I`m not saying he has at this stage.

Do you ever read this stuff before you post it?

jay

"as mellow as a horse" wrote in message
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"Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message
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Hi;

I bought this item on eBay


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2769544 2
41
on the basis of the information given which is the PCs recognise the
card
but will not load the drivers. I have not recieved the card yet but I`m
starting to worry that I have not been given an honest auction
description
as it would appear to be.

The most common genuine "fault" with these Creative Ti4400 cards is bad
ram
which is obvious from the screen corruption there is no mention of
screen
corruption in the auction description - so a correct representation
would
not mention screen corruption which it does not. However there is a
possibility that the screen corruption only occurs once the drivers have
loaded giving him a great reason to pretend he could not get the drivers
loaded.

This auction


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=27 3
87
clearly states the problem I`m referring too and I would not have bid on
it.

I have seen screen corruption on my own Ti4200 when you overclock the
graphics memory too high this is only possible when the drivers are
loaded
obviously - maybe I will be able to clock the memory lower slowing down
the
card as a way around it - but I feel that if screen corruption occurs it
will be obvious to me when I test it and that I have a right to feel
cheated.

As I say don`t actually have the item yet - whats your view ?

I sold a ti4600 on ebay in similar circumstances. I even mentioned that
it
had corruption right from the BIOS screen, yet I still got £50 for it!
I've
also been screwed by people selling stuff as "untested" (cough!), but at
least this guy is upfront. The usual spiel for such items is "we found
the[se] item[s] at the back of the stock cupboard/bought from a bankrupt
business, and haven't had time to test them"

You say somewhere that you would not be happy if the board had corruption
from booting as mine did. Did you ask before you bought it?

And if it doesn't work just sell it on! I'm sure we'll all be watching to
make sure YOU describe it properly!


Yeah but he doesn`t mention corruption right from the BIOS screen in which
case I would not have touched. I bid on it because there`s a chance (a slim
one now I must admit) that it is a perfectly functioning board just needing
the right drivers. Corruption isn`t mentioned in the description so
corruption shouldn`t be there - to have it and not mention it would make it
more sellable becuase corruption means its 100% no possible other
explanation knackered.

Tim Auton tim.auton@uton.[group sex without the y on the end] wrote:

What an idiot you are Nick. Wanna buy a bridge?

****. I was going to sell him the Eiffel Tower.

I've got a bit of the moon that "not from the moon, no honestly it's
not, never came from the moon at all" I was hoping he'd be interested
in.

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"Col" wrote in message
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Umm.. they wont install cos its ****ED! not much to be intrigued about
there
then.


Do you know for sure he`s tried to install the right drivers ?

Nick Le Lievre wrote:
I bid on it because there`s a
chance (a slim one now I must admit) that it is a perfectly
functioning board just needing the right drivers.

How is the chance of it now working any slimmer than it was when you bid on
it?

--
Alex

"We are now up against live, hostile targets"

"So, if Little Red Riding Hood should show up with a bazooka and a bad
attitude, I expect you to chin the bitch! "

www.drzoidberg.co.uk

"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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Nick Le Lievre wrote:
I bid on it because there`s a
chance (a slim one now I must admit) that it is a perfectly
functioning board just needing the right drivers.

How is the chance of it now working any slimmer than it was when you bid
on
it?


Becuase this particular board is so prone to the corruption problem the
original problem his friend had may well have been the corruption problem.
However usually its from the BIOS screen and I would have thought he would
of noticed and mentioned it but maybe not.

When I first bid on it I did not know of this fact.