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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:03:38 -0800, JosephKK
wrote:


Which makes it the *software's* problem, not mine. If your software can't
do what you want it to, get software that can.

Ivor

I am not having any problem with your posts, Keith's, or Floyd's.

A few irregular posters are producing posts that Agent does not seem
to quote properly.


Who? Agent quotes the irregular characters fine for me,
even using a (now quite) dated version but that doesn't mean
we can chuck the standards which allow the most versatile
use by _everyone_ . Remember that we're entering a new era
of mobile devices that many not run WinTel platforms, may
have limited processing, display, storage, etc. Standards
are about compatiblity, not about "it's up to the other guy
to work around what I'm doing that's nonstandard".

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:56:04 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
wrote:


wrote in message


[snip]

: There is a ": " in front of the text I wrote that you
: quoted. That is TWO characters of intending. It is NOT
: converting the previous quote mark because there was no
: previous quote mark from me, other than for the text
: I quoted which has a "| " in front.

Ah, *finally* I see it. I am using OE with the QuoteFix addon and both
were inserting quotemarks, OE was inserting a and Quotefix the : so yes
there were two quotemarks.

Hope this is ok now, many apologies to all for my obtuseness.

Well done, Madge.


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In alt.engineering.electrical Ivor Jones wrote:
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| wrote in message
|
|
| [snip]
|
| : There is a ": " in front of the text I wrote that you
| : quoted. That is TWO characters of intending. It is NOT
| : converting the previous quote mark because there was no
| : previous quote mark from me, other than for the text
| : I quoted which has a "| " in front.
|
| Ah, *finally* I see it. I am using OE with the QuoteFix addon and both
| were inserting quotemarks, OE was inserting a and Quotefix the : so yes
| there were two quotemarks.
|
| Hope this is ok now, many apologies to all for my obtuseness.

Yes, it is OK now. Apology accepted.

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| Phil Howard KA9WGN (ka9wgn.ham.org) / Do not send to the address below |
| first name lower case at ipal.net / |
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:18:49 -0400, krw wrote:

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says...

"krw" wrote in message
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: In article ,
: lid says...

[snip]

: Which makes it the *software's* problem, not mine. If
: your software can't do what you want it to, get
: software that can.
:
: This is only true if your intention is to write for
: yourself. In that case, why bother the rest of us?

Nobody's forcing you to read my message. Which is written in plain text,
by the way. If you can't cope with a simple : character in a bit of ASCII
text, tough.

This post typifies your attitude toward you reader. The question
is, why do *you* bother writing if you have no interest in your
reader?

How about a little support besides your attitude.

???

--
Keith

"CBFalconer" wrote in message

: David Taylor wrote:
: Ivor Jones wrote:
:
: ... snip ...
:
: So what's the problem with that..? No, don't bother
: answering, I've had enough of this pointless argument.
:
: Quote with ":" if you like. Quote with "" if you like.
: But don't quote with ": " because that looks like two
: levels of quoting.
:
: Piggybacking. It is topical here as long as you fail to
: observe the standard protocols.

Where may I view these "standard protocols" please..?

Ivor

In alt.engineering.electrical Ivor Jones wrote:
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|
| "CBFalconer" wrote in message
|
| : David Taylor wrote:
| : Ivor Jones wrote:
| :
| : ... snip ...
| :
| : So what's the problem with that..? No, don't bother
| : answering, I've had enough of this pointless argument.
| :
| : Quote with ":" if you like. Quote with "" if you like.
| : But don't quote with ": " because that looks like two
| : levels of quoting.
| :
| : Piggybacking. It is topical here as long as you fail to
| : observe the standard protocols.
|
| Where may I view these "standard protocols" please..?

In other posts in these same newsgroups.

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| Phil Howard KA9WGN (ka9wgn.ham.org) / Do not send to the address below |
| first name lower case at ipal.net / |
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wrote in message

: In alt.engineering.electrical Ivor Jones
: wrote:

[snip]

: |
: | Where may I view these "standard protocols" please..?
:
: In other posts in these same newsgroups.

That's convention, which isn't the same thing. But you knew that.

Ivor

In alt.engineering.electrical Ivor Jones wrote:
| wrote in message
|
| : In alt.engineering.electrical Ivor Jones
| : wrote:
|
| [snip]
|
| : |
| : | Where may I view these "standard protocols" please..?
| :
| : In other posts in these same newsgroups.
|
| That's convention, which isn't the same thing. But you knew that.

What kind of _standard_ are you looking for? Specific rules about what
you can indent with? In such a case, I think convention is what applies.
Protocols are for specific communications mechanisms, like NNTP for article
transfer. And those have escapement mechanisms for just about anything you
might put in the content body.

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| Phil Howard KA9WGN (ka9wgn.ham.org) / Do not send to the address below |
| first name lower case at ipal.net / |
|------------------------------------/-------------------------------------|

wrote in message

: In alt.engineering.electrical Ivor Jones
: wrote:
:
: | : | Where may I view these "standard protocols"
: | : | please..?
: | :
: | : In other posts in these same newsgroups.
: |
: | That's convention, which isn't the same thing. But you
: | knew that.
:
: What kind of _standard_ are you looking for? Specific
: rules about what you can indent with?

Yes, if you want me to abide by them.

: In such a case, I think convention
: is what applies.

But is not binding. And you have no authority to demand that I follow your
conventions.

: Protocols are for specific
: communications mechanisms, like NNTP for article
: transfer. And those have escapement mechanisms for just
: about anything you might put in the content body.

My eyes are my escapement mechanism. I can read just about anything that
is put into a plain text message (that doesn't mean that I can
*understand* it though..!)

Ivor

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:27:11 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
wrote:



wrote in message

: In alt.engineering.electrical Ivor Jones
: wrote:
:
: | : | Where may I view these "standard protocols"
: | : | please..?
: | :
: | : In other posts in these same newsgroups.
: |
: | That's convention, which isn't the same thing. But you
: | knew that.
:
: What kind of _standard_ are you looking for? Specific
: rules about what you can indent with?

Yes, if you want me to abide by them.

: In such a case, I think convention
: is what applies.

But is not binding. And you have no authority to demand that I follow your
conventions.

Ivor. Dr Drivel and Weatherlawyer are looking for a soulmate, do you
want to join them?



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Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ http://www.pherber.com/