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Burt wrote: ** and top-posted - fixed **
"CBFalconer" wrote in message
Tony wrote:

Not sure I want to continue this thread but here is a last attempt
to clarify what I said.

The original post to which I replied said that Vista was crap and
provided some links as evidence. These links are outdated and now
largely irrelevant. I said that I have many customers who are happy
with Vista so it is NOT just my personal experience, I expressed an
opinion based on real world experience (both mine and my customers).
My opinions are absolutely NOT subjective, they are based on
objective observations (there is nothing more objective than
actually running a business, which my customers all do).

For many, Vista works. I speak of many installations, well over
100, none have had to consider going back to their previous OS. I
have many customers who have no plans to migrate to Vista and that
is exactly what I would expect, why migrate until there is a reason
to do so.
...

Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed
with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all
irrelevant material. See the following links:

--
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/ (taming google)
http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/ (newusers)

CBF - on the other hand, I was admonished for bottom posting a
question on the Excel NG. Can't win with some people!

I have deliberately left the URL references. Please read them for
background. In addition below are some references to areas with
various rfcs on line. These are the things that set standards for
email and Usenet. The 'Excel' ng is obviously something set up by
Microsoft, who attempt to corrupt all standards.

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/

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Joyeux Noel, Bonne Annee.
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kony wrote:
Tony wrote:

.... snip ...
Not sure I should have bothered however, it seems to me that once
some people have established a view they are completely immovable;
?? hardly a path to enlightenment!

First of all, if you can't respecty usenet conventions of
not top-posting, you shouldn't be allowed on usenet at all.

Tony appears to be a reasonable person, and doesn't deserve this
sort of treatment. I suspect he will respond quite nicely to
convincing arguments.

--
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Happy New Year
Joyeux Noel, Bonne Annee.
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
http://cbfalconer.home.att.net



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Duff wrote:





I do not think there are enough idiots out there who are in love with Microsoft Windows even though they need to use it for various reasons.



Yeah, like only 92 percent of the market is totally sold with Microsoft. And the number is growing daily.




there are enough idiots out there

TJ wrote:
Duff wrote:


I do not think there are enough idiots out there who are in love
with Microsoft Windows even though they need to use it for various
reasons.

Yeah, like only 92 percent of the market is totally sold with
Microsoft. And the number is growing daily.






You want to use Microsoft products because they're the best for you?
Fine, go ahead. But don't do it because everybody else is doing it.
That argument didn't work when you were a kid, did it?

If 92% of all lemmings follow others over a cliff, it is the 8% that
don't that survive to continue the species.

ha ha ha

"Market share" is a function of marketing prowess, and not necessarily
the quality of the product.
Oh Yeah the MS babies just like to sit on their Duff. ah ha ha ha

Sometimes, breaking away from the masses is the best thing to do.

It was for me. For business I have to use Windows but for personal use
I did have to put up with some driver difficulties and find replacements
form some lousy Windows software that did do the job but I do not get
the crash of the day and have to worry about a deluge of viruses.

TJ

It just might be possible for Microsoft to go to Linux.  Since Windows is crap they just may put a Windows GUI (instead of KDE or Gnome) on a modified Linux kernal for a spanking brand new version of Windows that may work better.

Tony wrote:

TJ wrote:



Tony wrote:



Richard I couldn't agree with you more. If there is no reason to upgrade to Vista then why do so? That however doesn't mean that Vista is bad, merely a fledgling. I wasn't suggesting that people upgrade without good reason, only trying to bring a bit of balance to a completely unbalanced thread. Not sure I should have bothered however, it seems to me that once some people have established a view they are completely immovable; hardly a path to enlightenment! Tony



I think Microsoft will settle the whole question in a few years, when they withdraw support from XP. Consider for a moment that Microsoft recently has not just withdrawn their support for Windows versions earlier than 2000, they've forced other companies (like HP) to do so, too. Now, remember that XP and other Microsoft products of the same and later vintages have to phone home to Redmond for permission to be used by the consumer. Is it too much to imagine that Microsoft has embedded some code that will render those products inoperable after Microsoft withdraws support? Not to me, it isn't. One of the big reasons I will continue to use Linux. *I'm* in charge of my computer, not Microsoft. (And if that starts another flame war, so be it.) TJ



TJ I have no in depth experience of Linux but have a few small customers and one acquaintance who use it and who are very content. The only complaint I have heard from them is the limited availability of some applications. If Linux suits your needs then that is better than good since you are saving money and as you say you are in charge. I am not a MS bigot, the nature of my business demands that I deal mainly with MS OS' and there is nothing I can do about that. Enjoy the holidays. Bottom posted because it's a weekend ;-) Tony

Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed >> with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all >> irrelevant material. See the following links: I think top posting is appropriate in certain circumstances. People who follow a post will not have to scroll down. Now is you interlace your replies to different paragraphs then that is another story



CBFalconer wrote:

Burt wrote: ** and top-posted - fixed **



"CBFalconer" wrote in message



Tony wrote:



Not sure I want to continue this thread but here is a last attempt to clarify what I said. The original post to which I replied said that Vista was crap and provided some links as evidence. These links are outdated and now largely irrelevant. I said that I have many customers who are happy with Vista so it is NOT just my personal experience, I expressed an opinion based on real world experience (both mine and my customers). My opinions are absolutely NOT subjective, they are based on objective observations (there is nothing more objective than actually running a business, which my customers all do). For many, Vista works. I speak of many installations, well over 100, none have had to consider going back to their previous OS. I have many customers who have no plans to migrate to Vista and that is exactly what I would expect, why migrate until there is a reason to do so.



... Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all irrelevant material. See the following links: -- <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> <http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html> <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html> <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/> (taming google) <http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/> (newusers)



CBF - on the other hand, I was admonished for bottom posting a question on the Excel NG. Can't win with some people!



I have deliberately left the URL references. Please read them for background. In addition below are some references to areas with various rfcs on line. These are the things that set standards for email and Usenet. The 'Excel' ng is obviously something set up by Microsoft, who attempt to corrupt all standards. <http://www.ietf.org/rfc/> <http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/>

"CBFalconer" wrote in message
...
kony wrote:
Tony wrote:

... snip ...
Not sure I should have bothered however, it seems to me that once
some people have established a view they are completely immovable;
?? hardly a path to enlightenment!

First of all, if you can't respecty usenet conventions of
not top-posting, you shouldn't be allowed on usenet at all.

Tony appears to be a reasonable person, and doesn't deserve this
sort of treatment. I suspect he will respond quite nicely to
convincing arguments.

--
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Happy New Year
Joyeux Noel, Bonne Annee.
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
http://cbfalconer.home.att.net

Chuck - on a scale of 1 to 10, my measurement of who should NOT be allowed
to be on usenet, I'd say that trolls, spammers, and flamers rate a 10+,
infantile, profane responses rate a 9.9, etc., and somewhere between 0 and
0.5 would be top posters. I dislike responses that are interspersed
throughout a long message, as it is much easier to see EITHER a bottom or
top post. Top or bottom posts? This should be much less a concern than the
people who hide behind their internet anonymity and respond in a way that
would get their facial features rearranged if they tried it in person. Now
there's a convention that I'd like to see enforced!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please go
after those folks and I'll support your concern about the top posting
convention.

measekite wrote:
It just might be possible for Microsoft to go to Linux. Since Windows
is crap they just may put a Windows GUI (instead of KDE or Gnome) on a
modified Linux kernal for a spanking brand new version of Windows that
may work better.

Don't hold your breath on that one.

TJ

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measekite wrote:


TJ wrote:
Duff wrote:


I do not think there are enough idiots out there who are in love
with Microsoft Windows even though they need to use it for various
reasons.

Yeah, like only 92 percent of the market is totally sold with
Microsoft. And the number is growing daily.






You want to use Microsoft products because they're the best for you?
Fine, go ahead. But don't do it because everybody else is doing it.
That argument didn't work when you were a kid, did it?

If 92% of all lemmings follow others over a cliff, it is the 8% that
don't that survive to continue the species.

ha ha ha

"Market share" is a function of marketing prowess, and not necessarily
the quality of the product.
Oh Yeah the MS babies just like to sit on their Duff. ah ha ha ha

Sometimes, breaking away from the masses is the best thing to do.

It was for me. For business I have to use Windows but for personal use
I did have to put up with some driver difficulties and find replacements
form some lousy Windows software that did do the job but I do not get
the crash of the day and have to worry about a deluge of viruses.

Oh...My...Gawd. You've become a Linux advocate! Excuse me while I check
the news...Hell freezing over like that must be creating quite a stir!

TJ

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:34:52 -0500, CBFalconer
wrote:

kony wrote:
Tony wrote:

... snip ...
Not sure I should have bothered however, it seems to me that once
some people have established a view they are completely immovable;
?? hardly a path to enlightenment!

First of all, if you can't respecty usenet conventions of
not top-posting, you shouldn't be allowed on usenet at all.

Tony appears to be a reasonable person, and doesn't deserve this
sort of treatment. I suspect he will respond quite nicely to
convincing arguments.



You may be right, but at some point you have to look at both
sides of the coin. Anyone can start doing the right thing
after having done wrong... and be given some patience for
that, but the flipside is anyone can also start doing the
wrong thing after having done right.

In the end, it's just text. If someone doesn't have thick
skin then I apologize for offense, but I'd have to also feel
that handling people with kid-gloves only works to a certain
point, and thick skin doesn't grow all by itself.