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Old February 9th 04, 12:45 AM
Kayf
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Default System advice please

Hi,

I've been reading all of the posts and should appreciate some suggestions
for a good overclocking system. I am not sure whether to go the Northwood
or AMD64 route but the two prime options seem to be:

AMD 64 3200
Asus K8V
PC3700 memory (2 x 512MB)

or

Northwood 3.0 (800MHz FSB)
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
PC3700 memory (2 x 512MB)

Cooling for these either by Thermalright SP-94 with YS-Tech 120mm fan
(125CFM at 40dB) with 120mm-80mm converter, or a Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu.

Common elements (already in my present system) will be ATi 9800 Pro, 2 off
SATA 80GB drives in RAID 0 and one IDE 80GB drive for back-up, a 48x CD-RW
and 4x DVD-R. This will all be mounted in a Thermaltake case with an
Enermax 400W supply.

Overclocks.com results suggest that the AMD64 may get to about 2.4GHz with
the right heat sink and fan and the Northwood 3.0 could go to 3.5/3.6GHz.
Any comments on this please?

I will be using the system about equally for games (mainly flight sims and
racing) and desktop publishing work (Photoshop, Illustrator, Premier, etc.).
Having looked at the many posts and particularly the excellent contributions
from Skid (many thanks for these), I expect either system will be fine but I
have a secret need for that extra little bit of speed that I will never
really notice!

Any help/suggestions/changes will be appreciated.

Cheers,

Kayf

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  #2  
Old February 9th 04, 01:10 AM
~misfit~
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Kayf wrote:
Hi,

I've been reading all of the posts and should appreciate some
suggestions for a good overclocking system. I am not sure whether to
go the Northwood or AMD64 route but the two prime options seem to be:

AMD 64 3200
Asus K8V
PC3700 memory (2 x 512MB)

or

Northwood 3.0 (800MHz FSB)
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
PC3700 memory (2 x 512MB)

Cooling for these either by Thermalright SP-94 with YS-Tech 120mm fan
(125CFM at 40dB) with 120mm-80mm converter, or a Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu.

Common elements (already in my present system) will be ATi 9800 Pro,
2 off SATA 80GB drives in RAID 0 and one IDE 80GB drive for back-up,
a 48x CD-RW and 4x DVD-R. This will all be mounted in a Thermaltake
case with an Enermax 400W supply.

Overclocks.com results suggest that the AMD64 may get to about 2.4GHz
with the right heat sink and fan and the Northwood 3.0 could go to
3.5/3.6GHz. Any comments on this please?

I will be using the system about equally for games (mainly flight
sims and racing) and desktop publishing work (Photoshop, Illustrator,
Premier, etc.). Having looked at the many posts and particularly the
excellent contributions from Skid (many thanks for these), I expect
either system will be fine but I have a secret need for that extra
little bit of speed that I will never really notice!

Any help/suggestions/changes will be appreciated.


The AMD will be faster in games for sure. Probably better all around
actually.
--
~misfit~


  #3  
Old February 9th 04, 04:34 PM
Skid
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"~misfit~" wrote in message
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The AMD will be faster in games for sure. Probably better all around
actually.


I can't disagree.


  #4  
Old February 19th 04, 03:48 AM
Simon
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I think these reviews from TomsHardware might help u choose

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040201/index.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040106/index.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030923/index.html

I had a similar choice to make a several weeks back.

I chose the

3.2 P4 800FSB Standard out of the box heatsink.
on the ASUS P4C800 Deluxe.
MSI FX5900 TD 128. 850Mhz RAM and 400Mhz core freq overclocked to 450Mhz
on the Core (Same as the Ultra),
1 GB (2*512MB) Unbuffered, Non-ECC 3200 RAM. Dual Channel
1*60GB ATA133 HDD (can't remember which one without rebooting the
machine) on ATA 133 Raid 0.
80 GB ATA 100 on the standard ATA 100
2*200GB Maxtor SATA HDD Raid 0

This is mainly because I do a lot of MPEG crunching. I need raw crunching
power and Intel top end speed is much better at this.

Games differ. Some prefer Intel, some like AMD. Unreal Torn 2003 prefers AMD
with RADEON, while Egosoft's/Enlight's X2 (space sim Elite) suggest if you
don't have a 3.2 Ghz machine(3200 AMD64 will not do) you should turn
everything that runs in the background off and then develop a healthy
relationship with our maker. I haven't read much about sims (I hope u mean
Flight/Racing Sims and not The Sims as I suggest forget upgrade and enjoy
play.) I guess something like Microsoft Flight Sim needs Intel. where as
prettier Sims may prefer AMD.

DTP is generally not processor hungry so it really does not matter.

On overlooking, I have overclocked it by 5% to 3.36GHz using the onboard
auto overclocking stuff in the bios. (I'll probably be banned from this
newsgroup for admitting that but rememer which heatsink I use, so be kind to
me :-P. ) There is very little difference in temperature overclocked or not.
My system runs completely stable.

Strangely though my score in SysSoft Sandra went up quite a lot but my score
in 3D-Mark 2001 went down slightly. I chose 2001 over 2003 because the
rumours go that it is a better indicator of CPU performance. I'll do the
test with 2003 and post it later.

Hope this Helps.

"~misfit~" wrote in message
...
Kayf wrote:
Hi,

I've been reading all of the posts and should appreciate some
suggestions for a good overclocking system. I am not sure whether to
go the Northwood or AMD64 route but the two prime options seem to be:

AMD 64 3200
Asus K8V
PC3700 memory (2 x 512MB)

or

Northwood 3.0 (800MHz FSB)
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
PC3700 memory (2 x 512MB)

Cooling for these either by Thermalright SP-94 with YS-Tech 120mm fan
(125CFM at 40dB) with 120mm-80mm converter, or a Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu.

Common elements (already in my present system) will be ATi 9800 Pro,
2 off SATA 80GB drives in RAID 0 and one IDE 80GB drive for back-up,
a 48x CD-RW and 4x DVD-R. This will all be mounted in a Thermaltake
case with an Enermax 400W supply.

Overclocks.com results suggest that the AMD64 may get to about 2.4GHz
with the right heat sink and fan and the Northwood 3.0 could go to
3.5/3.6GHz. Any comments on this please?

I will be using the system about equally for games (mainly flight
sims and racing) and desktop publishing work (Photoshop, Illustrator,
Premier, etc.). Having looked at the many posts and particularly the
excellent contributions from Skid (many thanks for these), I expect
either system will be fine but I have a secret need for that extra
little bit of speed that I will never really notice!

Any help/suggestions/changes will be appreciated.


The AMD will be faster in games for sure. Probably better all around
actually.
--
~misfit~




  #5  
Old February 20th 04, 05:58 PM
Kayf
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Cheers!

Kayf

"Simon" wrote in message
...
I think these reviews from TomsHardware might help u choose

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040201/index.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040106/index.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030923/index.html

I had a similar choice to make a several weeks back.

I chose the

3.2 P4 800FSB Standard out of the box heatsink.
on the ASUS P4C800 Deluxe.
MSI FX5900 TD 128. 850Mhz RAM and 400Mhz core freq overclocked to

450Mhz
on the Core (Same as the Ultra),
1 GB (2*512MB) Unbuffered, Non-ECC 3200 RAM. Dual Channel
1*60GB ATA133 HDD (can't remember which one without rebooting the
machine) on ATA 133 Raid 0.
80 GB ATA 100 on the standard ATA 100
2*200GB Maxtor SATA HDD Raid 0

This is mainly because I do a lot of MPEG crunching. I need raw crunching
power and Intel top end speed is much better at this.

Games differ. Some prefer Intel, some like AMD. Unreal Torn 2003 prefers

AMD
with RADEON, while Egosoft's/Enlight's X2 (space sim Elite) suggest if you
don't have a 3.2 Ghz machine(3200 AMD64 will not do) you should turn
everything that runs in the background off and then develop a healthy
relationship with our maker. I haven't read much about sims (I hope u mean
Flight/Racing Sims and not The Sims as I suggest forget upgrade and enjoy
play.) I guess something like Microsoft Flight Sim needs Intel. where as
prettier Sims may prefer AMD.

DTP is generally not processor hungry so it really does not matter.

On overlooking, I have overclocked it by 5% to 3.36GHz using the onboard
auto overclocking stuff in the bios. (I'll probably be banned from this
newsgroup for admitting that but rememer which heatsink I use, so be kind

to
me :-P. ) There is very little difference in temperature overclocked or

not.
My system runs completely stable.

Strangely though my score in SysSoft Sandra went up quite a lot but my

score
in 3D-Mark 2001 went down slightly. I chose 2001 over 2003 because the
rumours go that it is a better indicator of CPU performance. I'll do the
test with 2003 and post it later.

Hope this Helps.

"~misfit~" wrote in message
...
Kayf wrote:
Hi,

I've been reading all of the posts and should appreciate some
suggestions for a good overclocking system. I am not sure whether to
go the Northwood or AMD64 route but the two prime options seem to be:

AMD 64 3200
Asus K8V
PC3700 memory (2 x 512MB)

or

Northwood 3.0 (800MHz FSB)
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
PC3700 memory (2 x 512MB)

Cooling for these either by Thermalright SP-94 with YS-Tech 120mm fan
(125CFM at 40dB) with 120mm-80mm converter, or a Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu.

Common elements (already in my present system) will be ATi 9800 Pro,
2 off SATA 80GB drives in RAID 0 and one IDE 80GB drive for back-up,
a 48x CD-RW and 4x DVD-R. This will all be mounted in a Thermaltake
case with an Enermax 400W supply.

Overclocks.com results suggest that the AMD64 may get to about 2.4GHz
with the right heat sink and fan and the Northwood 3.0 could go to
3.5/3.6GHz. Any comments on this please?

I will be using the system about equally for games (mainly flight
sims and racing) and desktop publishing work (Photoshop, Illustrator,
Premier, etc.). Having looked at the many posts and particularly the
excellent contributions from Skid (many thanks for these), I expect
either system will be fine but I have a secret need for that extra
little bit of speed that I will never really notice!

Any help/suggestions/changes will be appreciated.


The AMD will be faster in games for sure. Probably better all around
actually.
--
~misfit~






 




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