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Help: Booting And Installing From DVD Drive
I have an HP Pavilion 7955 that didn't have a hard drive, so I put in
a 164G Serial-ATA Hitachi Deskstar(HDT722516DLA380). There is a light blue connector that has a small PCB plugged into it that allows the use of a SATA drive with the motherboard. And the drive is the only one on it's cable. I want to try to install XP from a DVD. But the screen that shows the boot order is as follows: Boot Device Priority -------------------- CD-ROM Drive +Removable Drives +Hard Drive Network Boot Though the DVD drive is found by the BIOS, it doesn't show at all in that Boot Priority screen. Is there a way to get the DVD-ROM drive into this list? The CD-ROM and DVD-Rom are on a single cable with it terminating at the CD-ROM. Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. |
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Help: Booting And Installing From DVD Drive
Searcher7 wrote:
I have an HP Pavilion 7955 that didn't have a hard drive, so I put in a 164G Serial-ATA Hitachi Deskstar(HDT722516DLA380). There is a light blue connector that has a small PCB plugged into it I can envision the color light blue but I can't see where "there" is. that allows the use of a SATA drive with the motherboard. And the drive is the only one on it's cable. I want to try to install XP from a DVD. Burn it to a CD. But the screen that shows the boot order is as follows: Boot Device Priority -------------------- CD-ROM Drive +Removable Drives +Hard Drive Network Boot Though the DVD drive is found by the BIOS, it doesn't show at all in that Boot Priority screen. Remove one of the optical drives and install from a CD. Good luck. Is there a way to get the DVD-ROM drive into this list? The CD-ROM and DVD-Rom are on a single cable with it terminating at the CD-ROM. Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. |
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Help: Booting And Installing From DVD Drive
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:12:36 -0800 (PST), Searcher7
wrote: I have an HP Pavilion 7955 that didn't have a hard drive, so I put in a 164G Serial-ATA Hitachi Deskstar(HDT722516DLA380). There is a light blue connector that has a small PCB plugged into it that allows the use of a SATA drive with the motherboard. And the drive is the only one on it's cable. I want to try to install XP from a DVD. But the screen that shows the boot order is as follows: Boot Device Priority -------------------- CD-ROM Drive +Removable Drives +Hard Drive Network Boot Though the DVD drive is found by the BIOS, it doesn't show at all in that Boot Priority screen. Is there a way to get the DVD-ROM drive into this list? Did you try to boot yet? The CD-ROM setting is likely to work, booting from the DVD. If it does not, check the drive jumpers. If all else fails, unplug the SATA adapter board and see if it then boots from the DVD... not that you could install like this but just to see if it then works. The CD-ROM and DVD-Rom are on a single cable with it terminating at the CD-ROM. If the bios lacks the ability to boot from DVD-ROM in this configuration, either swap the position of the drives or temporarily unplug the CD-ROM and plug the end of the data cable into the DVD-ROM, rejumpering to Master or Cable Select if previously jumpered to slave. Often OEMs use Cable Select, if jumpered to master/slave you might try cable select and leave them like that if it works so you don't have to fiddle with jumpers anymore. |
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Booting And Installing From DVD Drive
"Searcher7" wrote in message ... I have an HP Pavilion 7955 that didn't have a hard drive, so I put in a 164G Serial-ATA Hitachi Deskstar(HDT722516DLA380). There is a light blue connector that has a small PCB plugged into it that allows the use of a SATA drive with the motherboard. And the drive is the only one on it's cable. I want to try to install XP from a DVD. But the screen that shows the boot order is as follows: Boot Device Priority -------------------- CD-ROM Drive +Removable Drives +Hard Drive Network Boot Though the DVD drive is found by the BIOS, it doesn't show at all in that Boot Priority screen. Is there a way to get the DVD-ROM drive into this list? The CD-ROM and DVD-Rom are on a single cable with it terminating at the CD-ROM. Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. There may actually not be a listing for the letters "DVD" but an earlier usage of CD-ROM in the bios. To insure that you're seeing the DVD-ROM temporarily disconnect the CD-ROM from the cable and see if the DVD-ROM still shows up. You can always add the CD-ROM drive back in after installation.If it does as a CD-ROM then you've done the job right. Also, make sure these drives are jumpered appropriately as master and slave if they are on the same cable. Some DVD and CD-ROM drives are particular to having themselves set as 'master' and don't like being a slave. No pun intended. If you get this far and can boot to XP then you may also be thoughtful that XP may need you to use a SATA driver to actually see your SATA drive, that would be copied from a floppy disk, which would depend on the way the motherboard translates SATA drves as IDE drives for the OS. If the drive gets seen by XP for installation none of that would be necessary. Jan Alter |
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Help: Booting And Installing From DVD Drive
On Nov 22, 4:21 pm, kony wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:12:36 -0800 (PST), Searcher7 wrote: I have an HP Pavilion 7955 that didn't have a hard drive, so I put in a 164G Serial-ATA Hitachi Deskstar(HDT722516DLA380). There is a light blue connector that has a small PCB plugged into it that allows the use of a SATA drive with the motherboard. And the drive is the only one on it's cable. I want to try to install XP from a DVD. But the screen that shows the boot order is as follows: Boot Device Priority -------------------- CD-ROM Drive +Removable Drives +Hard Drive Network Boot Though the DVD drive is found by the BIOS, it doesn't show at all in that Boot Priority screen. Is there a way to get the DVD-ROM drive into this list? Did you try to boot yet? The CD-ROM setting is likely to work, booting from the DVD. If it does not, check the drive jumpers. If all else fails, unplug the SATA adapter board and see if it then boots from the DVD... not that you could install like this but just to see if it then works. The CD-ROM and DVD-Rom are on a single cable with it terminating at the CD-ROM. If the bios lacks the ability to boot from DVD-ROM in this configuration, either swap the position of the drives or temporarily unplug the CD-ROM and plug the end of the data cable into the DVD-ROM, rejumpering to Master or Cable Select if previously jumpered to slave. Often OEMs use Cable Select, if jumpered to master/slave you might try cable select and leave them like that if it works so you don't have to fiddle with jumpers anymore. I can't figure out how to get the DVD and CD out of the case to check it or get to and change the jumpers. HP obvious made this difficult for a reason. It seems like the onlyway is to slide the DVD and CD forward, but I see no way to get the face of the case off first. I don't think I broke them, but I might have moved the swing down doors of the DVD and CD out of alignment.(I'm assuming there is no online how-to video that one can access). Anyway, this is one of two systems I've had for years, but have never used because everytime I dig tehm out to attempt to get them up and running I run into a roadblock. So I put them away,a nd then months later I dig them out again and try to re-learn what little I know and pick up where I left off. We first corresponded on this system a while ago.(See "SATA Controller Recommendation?" in "alt.comp.hardware"). I've spent most of Thankgiving trying to get this working and I'm close to putting it back into hibernation. Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. |
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On Nov 22, 5:30 pm, Searcher7 wrote:
On Nov 22, 4:21 pm, kony wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:12:36 -0800 (PST), Searcher7 wrote: I have an HP Pavilion 7955 that didn't have a hard drive, so I put in a 164G Serial-ATA Hitachi Deskstar(HDT722516DLA380). There is a light blue connector that has a small PCB plugged into it that allows the use of a SATA drive with the motherboard. And the drive is the only one on it's cable. I want to try to install XP from a DVD. But the screen that shows the boot order is as follows: Boot Device Priority -------------------- CD-ROM Drive +Removable Drives +Hard Drive Network Boot Though the DVD drive is found by the BIOS, it doesn't show at all in that Boot Priority screen. Is there a way to get the DVD-ROM drive into this list? Did you try to boot yet? The CD-ROM setting is likely to work, booting from the DVD. If it does not, check the drive jumpers. If all else fails, unplug the SATA adapter board and see if it then boots from the DVD... not that you could install like this but just to see if it then works. The CD-ROM and DVD-Rom are on a single cable with it terminating at the CD-ROM. If the bios lacks the ability to boot from DVD-ROM in this configuration, either swap the position of the drives or temporarily unplug the CD-ROM and plug the end of the data cable into the DVD-ROM, rejumpering to Master or Cable Select if previously jumpered to slave. Often OEMs use Cable Select, if jumpered to master/slave you might try cable select and leave them like that if it works so you don't have to fiddle with jumpers anymore. I can't figure out how to get the DVD and CD out of the case to check it or get to and change the jumpers. HP obvious made this difficult for a reason. It seems like the onlyway is to slide the DVD and CD forward, but I see no way to get the face of the case off first. I don't think I broke them, but I might have moved the swing down doors of the DVD and CD out of alignment.(I'm assuming there is no online how-to video that one can access). Anyway, this is one of two systems I've had for years, but have never used because everytime I dig tehm out to attempt to get them up and running I run into a roadblock. So I put them away,a nd then months later I dig them out again and try to re-learn what little I know and pick up where I left off. We first corresponded on this system a while ago.(See "SATA Controller Recommendation?" in "alt.comp.hardware"). I've spent most of Thankgiving trying to get this working and I'm close to putting it back into hibernation. Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. I've stumbled on how to get the DVD-ROM and CD-ROM out. But I can't find anywhere online the info regarding the jumper specifics. The drives are as follows: CD = CR-4848TE DVD = SD-616 Thanks. Darren |
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Help: Booting And Installing From DVD Drive
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:01:46 -0800 (PST), Searcher7
wrote: I've stumbled on how to get the DVD-ROM and CD-ROM out. I have a system or two similar to this, maybe, I'll look around and see what I have. Generally there is either an inset plastic front panel that pops off or swivels up, or the entire front plastic bezel is removed then the whole drive rack slides out the front... if the whole bezel comes off you may need to get inside the system via the side panel and depress some plastic tabs that latch through holes in the front metal wall of the case. But I can't find anywhere online the info regarding the jumper specifics. The jumper settings are usually molded into the plastic on the back of the drive, or at least on the drive label if not there. The drives are as follows: CD = CR-4848TE DVD = SD-616 Thanks. Darren If all else fails you could just make a CDR instead? I'm just suggesting it might be easier to make than to take system apart and fiddle with the drives. Also, it is possible you can just make a bootable CDR including DOS drivers, then navigate in DOS to the DVD drive at command prompt and start winxp setup by running /I386/Winnt.exe |
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Help: Booting And Installing From DVD Drive
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:01:46 -0800 (PST), Searcher7
wrote: rk. I've stumbled on how to get the DVD-ROM and CD-ROM out. But I can't find anywhere online the info regarding the jumper specifics. The drives are as follows: CD = CR-4848TE DVD = SD-616 Thanks. Darren An update - I looked at a similar case here and the way to get the bay out is by flipping up the USB/port flap at the bottom then pressing upwards and outwards on each side of the bottom of the plastic insert which will free it from the bottom tabs. Next at the top of the entire plastic insert (top of case), that insert is pulled forward. At that point it should come completely off if wiggled around a little and the slide out drive bay is exposed. The following is a picture of the typical jumper positions and markings on an optical drive: http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data...cal-jumper.jpg These jumper-pin positions are pretty standard and I will usually just put the jumper in that position without trying to read it first... by using curved forceps I can usually get the jumper moved without pulling the whole drive out, so if you have forceps or needle-nose pliers/etc, you too might be able to check then change jumpers as needed, and/or unplug the CD drive and have only the DVD plugged into the end of the cable without having to pull the whole drive bay out. |
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Help: Booting And Installing From DVD Drive
On Nov 22, 4:12 pm, kony wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:01:46 -0800 (PST), wrote: rk. I've stumbled on how to get the DVD-ROM and CD-ROM out. But I can't find anywhere online the info regarding the jumper specifics. The drives are as follows: CD = CR-4848TE DVD = SD-616 Thanks. Darren An update - I looked at a similar case here and the way to get the bay out is by flipping up the USB/port flap at the bottom then pressing upwards and outwards on each side of the bottom of the plastic insert which will free it from the bottom tabs. Next at the top of the entire plastic insert (top of case), that insert is pulled forward. At that point it should come completely off if wiggled around a little and the slide out drive bay is exposed. The following is a picture of the typical jumper positions and markings on an optical drive: http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data.../08-optical-ju... These jumper-pin positions are pretty standard and I will usually just put the jumper in that position without trying to read it first... by using curved forceps I can usually get the jumper moved without pulling the whole drive out, so if you have forceps or needle-nose pliers/etc, you too might be able to check then change jumpers as needed, and/or unplug the CD drive and have only the DVD plugged into the end of the cable without having to pull the whole drive bay out. OK, I did stumble on how to get the DVD and CD drives out.(Those flimsy swing-down bay doors had come off and were hell getting back into position). The DVD-ROM didn't have the the pin position info on the case, but thankfully the CD-ROM did. So I just took a chance and assumed they were the same.(THey were both on "Cable Select"). I switched them around and made the DVD-ROM the "Master" and the CD- ROM the "slave", but that did not work, so I completely disconnected the CD-ROM and it worked. The Windows XP set-up started. After the couple hour installation(which had it's own set of road-blocks) I re- connected the CD-ROM(as the slave) and at the moment everything seems to be working.(Including the little adaptor that lets the SATA drive work on this IDE motherboard). Thanks a lot. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. |
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