Which is an ATI the step-up from a Geforce4 MX 4400?

I've got the GeForce4 MX 440 and I want to get it out of my machine
for another. Which ATI card would be a good step up? The price on the
9800se is in my range but I understand that it is "crippled'?? I've
been researching specs but I'm getting boggled.
Machine specs: AMD 1800+ - Asus - A7V266C - PC2100 768mb ram

Gotta go,
Magwheelz

"Magwheelz" wrote in message
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I've got the GeForce4 MX 440 and I want to get it out of my machine
for another. Which ATI card would be a good step up? The price on the
9800se is in my range but I understand that it is "crippled'?? I've
been researching specs but I'm getting boggled.
Machine specs: AMD 1800+ - Asus - A7V266C - PC2100 768mb ram


No offense, but ANY current Radeon would be a step up from an MX440, the
weak spot in your otherwise decent system.

That said, the S in SE stands for Slow. You'd be better off with a Sapphire
Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB, $150, or the new Sapphire ATI RADEON
9600XT, $180, both with free shipping from www.newegg.com

even crippled the 9800se is 10 million times more powerful than that
440. I went from a 440mx to a 9700 Pro. it was worth it.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:59:33 -0500, Magwheelz
wrote:

I've got the GeForce4 MX 440 and I want to get it out of my machine
for another. Which ATI card would be a good step up? The price on the
9800se is in my range but I understand that it is "crippled'?? I've
been researching specs but I'm getting boggled.
Machine specs: AMD 1800+ - Asus - A7V266C - PC2100 768mb ram

Gotta go,
Magwheelz

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:41:37 GMT, "Skid"
wrote:

That said, the S in SE stands for Slow. You'd be better off with a Sapphire
Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB, $150, or the new Sapphire ATI RADEON
9600XT, $180, both with free shipping from www.newegg.com


Thanks for the quick response. You guys Rock!
will an 8x card run in my 4x MoBo?


Gotta go,
Magwheelz

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:16:53 -0500, Magwheelz
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:41:37 GMT, "Skid"
wrote:

That said, the S in SE stands for Slow. You'd be better off with a Sapphire
Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB, $150, or the new Sapphire ATI RADEON
9600XT, $180, both with free shipping from www.newegg.com


Thanks for the quick response. You guys Rock!
will an 8x card run in my 4x MoBo?


Gotta go,
Magwheelz

yes it will run on 4x, quite well.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:16:53 -0500, Magwheelz
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:41:37 GMT, "Skid"
wrote:

That said, the S in SE stands for Slow. You'd be better off with a Sapphire
Atlantis ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB, $150, or the new Sapphire ATI RADEON
9600XT, $180, both with free shipping from www.newegg.com


Thanks for the quick response. You guys Rock!
will an 8x card run in my 4x MoBo?


Gotta go,
Magwheelz

"Magwheelz" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the quick response. You guys Rock!
will an 8x card run in my 4x MoBo?

We also Roll ;)

Yes, an 8X card will run at 4X, and you'll never know the difference.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:32:31 -0500, bob cox wrote:

yes it will run on 4x, quite well.


I've heard that the 9800SE is crippled because 4 of the 8 pipes are
shutdown. Will this make no difference to me in a 4x MoBo and be the
same as a 9800 in my case or are there some memory/clock issues also
with the 9800SE??

(I appreciate the chat)

Gotta go,
Magwheelz

Never mind... I found the comparisons...
http://ati.com/products/radeon9600/r...o/compare.html

Thanks. The XT clock looks 25% faster than the pro... is it
overclocked out of the box I wonder...

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:40:34 -0500, Magwheelz
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:32:31 -0500, bob cox wrote:

yes it will run on 4x, quite well.


I've heard that the 9800SE is crippled because 4 of the 8 pipes are
shutdown. Will this make no difference to me in a 4x MoBo and be the
same as a 9800 in my case or are there some memory/clock issues also
with the 9800SE??

(I appreciate the chat)

Gotta go,
Magwheelz

Gotta go,
Magwheelz

"Magwheelz" wrote in message
...
Never mind... I found the comparisons...
http://ati.com/products/radeon9600/r...o/compare.html

Thanks. The XT clock looks 25% faster than the pro... is it
overclocked out of the box I wonder...

The default clock speed is higher, but I wouldn't call that overclocked.
Basically ATI made process and design improvements that made the XT
perfectly reliable at a higher speed.