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Old December 7th 06, 06:21 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
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Default Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premium motherboard?

Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premium
motherboard?

I am going to be upgrading my system pretty soon (motherboard, and
everything else), but since I haven't quite figured out which
motherboard I am going to go to, I figured I was going to go ahead and
get the video card I want, but I wanted to make sure there are no
problems.

I know my motherboard, this Asus P5WD2 Premium (not the 'E' variant),
needed a bios update to support the Nvidia GeForce 7950GX2 board, so I
wondering (and worrying) if the 8800 GTX was going to work.

The current bios available for the P5WD2 is 0709 (which I am using),
and there is a beta bios which is 0802.

Anyone with information if this will work?

Thanks, I appreciate it!

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Old December 7th 06, 07:21 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
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Default Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premiummotherboard?

Todd wrote:
Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premium
motherboard?

I am going to be upgrading my system pretty soon (motherboard, and
everything else), but since I haven't quite figured out which
motherboard I am going to go to, I figured I was going to go ahead and
get the video card I want, but I wanted to make sure there are no
problems.

I know my motherboard, this Asus P5WD2 Premium (not the 'E' variant),
needed a bios update to support the Nvidia GeForce 7950GX2 board, so I
wondering (and worrying) if the 8800 GTX was going to work.

The current bios available for the P5WD2 is 0709 (which I am using),
and there is a beta bios which is 0802.

Anyone with information if this will work?

Thanks, I appreciate it!


8800GTX power consumption is 145W, according to this. Make sure you
have enough 12V current to run the card. 12V at 4 amps would flow
through the motherboard slot connector, while the balance of the
current comes from whatever video card Aux power connector is
being used. About another 8 amps from that 12V rail.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...gf8800_11.html

I don't see a particular reason why a BIOS update is needed. The
card should work without it. The 8800GTX is a single card with a
single GPU, and is no different than connecting a 6200TC card.

At least, I don't see a technical reason for needing special
treatment.

Why not just enter "8800GTX" in your favorite search engine,
and see what experiences people are having on the private
forums ?

Paul
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Old December 10th 06, 04:11 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
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Default Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premium motherboard?

Your current BIOS should be fine. The 7950GX2 was an oddball because it
included an onboard PCIe bridge/divider chip to split the PCIe lanes between
the two daughtercards. The 8800 obviously doesn't have this chip.

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I know my motherboard, this Asus P5WD2 Premium (not the 'E' variant),
needed a bios update to support the Nvidia GeForce 7950GX2 board, so I
wondering (and worrying) if the 8800 GTX was going to work.

The current bios available for the P5WD2 is 0709 (which I am using),
and there is a beta bios which is 0802.

Anyone with information if this will work?

Thanks, I appreciate it!



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Old December 10th 06, 06:28 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
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Default Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premium motherboard?

On 6 Dec 2006 21:21:05 -0800, "Todd" wrote:

Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premium
motherboard?

I am going to be upgrading my system pretty soon (motherboard, and
everything else), but since I haven't quite figured out which
motherboard I am going to go to, I figured I was going to go ahead and
get the video card I want, but I wanted to make sure there are no
problems.

I know my motherboard, this Asus P5WD2 Premium (not the 'E' variant),
needed a bios update to support the Nvidia GeForce 7950GX2 board, so I
wondering (and worrying) if the 8800 GTX was going to work.

The current bios available for the P5WD2 is 0709 (which I am using),
and there is a beta bios which is 0802.

Anyone with information if this will work?

Thanks, I appreciate it!


Take a cool shower and try to forget the early adopter syndrome. Wait
for retail Vista/Dx10 and driver maturity for the 8800 for BOTH Dx9.0c
and Dx10. You will have a frustrating (and costly) experience for the
next 6 months or so if you buy a 8800 now. Several games do not yet
work with the 8800, which is a brand-new architecture requiring
brand-new drivers - one recent example Splinter Cell: Double Agent;
probably more Ubi's fault than nVidia's in this particular case.

You will be a far happier and richer camper if you delay all your
upgrade decisions till mid-2007:Vista/DX10 - OS and driver maturity;
the full range of AMD's new 65nm processors revealed, both dual and
quad; stable BIOS upgrades for DX10; wider and competitive choices in
enthusiast motherboards and power-supplies, ATi's(AMD) efforts on Dx10
fully revealed, real competition in DX10 cards driving the prices
down, second-gen Dx10 cards emerging -- prices steeply falling and
definitely re-engineered ASAP on 65nm in the case of nVidia, lower
cost,higher speed, lower power. That 8800 GPU chip is hot'n HUGE.
TSMC must have a truly squeaky-clean silicon-process for that chip to
yield AT ALL. I would bet that each yielded part fully tested and
packaged costs nVidia themselves $150-$200...... No doubt sold to the
board partners for $300-$350. Gotta cover the $475 million development
cost somehow.. So, lots of room for cost improvement with a re-spin
on 65nm.

John Lewis
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Old December 11th 06, 02:06 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
Todd
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Default Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premium motherboard?

Wow, now thats a sobering letter.

But you do have a good point!

I've already decided on delaying my purchase of a motherboard/cpu as
I've already come to the same conclusion as you have. That in a few
months, there will be the latest crop of next generation motherboards
supporting dual and quad core CPU's.

But I was thinking of getting the video card now so I could enjoy the
higher fps and so forth. I play quite a bit of games (like BF2,
BF2142, etc...) so I would enjoy being able to run the game in a higher
res and getting more fps, but actually I was just about to buy Splinter
Cell, so I'm not happy to hear that it has problems with the 8800. Of
course, i've heard this game has a lot of problems in general...

Thanks for the info John.

-Todd



John Lewis wrote:
On 6 Dec 2006 21:21:05 -0800, "Todd" wrote:

Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premium
motherboard?

I am going to be upgrading my system pretty soon (motherboard, and
everything else), but since I haven't quite figured out which
motherboard I am going to go to, I figured I was going to go ahead and
get the video card I want, but I wanted to make sure there are no
problems.

I know my motherboard, this Asus P5WD2 Premium (not the 'E' variant),
needed a bios update to support the Nvidia GeForce 7950GX2 board, so I
wondering (and worrying) if the 8800 GTX was going to work.

The current bios available for the P5WD2 is 0709 (which I am using),
and there is a beta bios which is 0802.

Anyone with information if this will work?

Thanks, I appreciate it!


Take a cool shower and try to forget the early adopter syndrome. Wait
for retail Vista/Dx10 and driver maturity for the 8800 for BOTH Dx9.0c
and Dx10. You will have a frustrating (and costly) experience for the
next 6 months or so if you buy a 8800 now. Several games do not yet
work with the 8800, which is a brand-new architecture requiring
brand-new drivers - one recent example Splinter Cell: Double Agent;
probably more Ubi's fault than nVidia's in this particular case.

You will be a far happier and richer camper if you delay all your
upgrade decisions till mid-2007:Vista/DX10 - OS and driver maturity;
the full range of AMD's new 65nm processors revealed, both dual and
quad; stable BIOS upgrades for DX10; wider and competitive choices in
enthusiast motherboards and power-supplies, ATi's(AMD) efforts on Dx10
fully revealed, real competition in DX10 cards driving the prices
down, second-gen Dx10 cards emerging -- prices steeply falling and
definitely re-engineered ASAP on 65nm in the case of nVidia, lower
cost,higher speed, lower power. That 8800 GPU chip is hot'n HUGE.
TSMC must have a truly squeaky-clean silicon-process for that chip to
yield AT ALL. I would bet that each yielded part fully tested and
packaged costs nVidia themselves $150-$200...... No doubt sold to the
board partners for $300-$350. Gotta cover the $475 million development
cost somehow.. So, lots of room for cost improvement with a re-spin
on 65nm.

John Lewis


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Old December 11th 06, 02:38 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
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Default Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premiummotherboard?

Todd wrote:

But I was thinking of getting the video card now so I could enjoy the
higher fps and so forth. I play quite a bit of games (like BF2,
BF2142, etc...) so I would enjoy being able to run the game in a higher
res and getting more fps, but actually I was just about to buy Splinter
Cell, so I'm not happy to hear that it has problems with the 8800. Of
course, i've heard this game has a lot of problems in general...


If the wet-blanket approach of waiting until all the hot spots of new
hardware bugginess are put out vexes you, I can recommend the 7950GT as
the card to suit your needs.

It is mature, drivers are very robust, it is a superior performer, it's
a true plug and play upgrade, no new PSU or CPU or motherboard required
in an average PCI-E based system. You also have the option of getting it
in 'silent'.

I run BF2 with a 7950GT @ 4xFSAA+ gamma correction and supersampling +
16x trilinearly filtered anisotropic goodness all at 1600x1200 at high
refresh rates, and the game renders faster than I can move my mouse.

I mention that to assure you that the 7950GT can handle BF2, it can also
handle Oblivion at 1600x1200 no antialiasing, 16x 'bri-linear'
anisotropic filtering along with HDR with, here's the best part, all
landscape 512x512 textures replaced with 4096x4096 textures. The 512M of
onboard ram certainly comes in handy with that texture loading, it never
hiccups!

It also has HDMI, if that concerns you. But it is no 8800GTS, then
again, in three months, the 8800GTS will be yesterday's news, but the
7950GT will still be a rock solid performer. I think the GeForce8
architecture is very solidly built and will scale nicely in the future.
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Old December 12th 06, 07:38 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
Todd
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Default Does an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX work on an Asus P5WD2 Premium motherboard?

Currently I have a GeForce 7800 GTX, so there isn't much improvement if
I go to a 7950.

I want the 8800 because it is a DX10 card. The 7 series of course are
DX9 cards.

But thats ok, it's not a mad rush that I need it yesterday.

I actually saw on Nvidia's site that 2 days ago they released a new set
of drivers for the 8800, and it addressess problems with both BF2 and
Splinter Cell: Double agent..

Anyways, as you said, the drivers will mature in time. I'll give it a
few months.



Mr.E Solved! wrote:
Todd wrote:

But I was thinking of getting the video card now so I could enjoy the
higher fps and so forth. I play quite a bit of games (like BF2,
BF2142, etc...) so I would enjoy being able to run the game in a higher
res and getting more fps, but actually I was just about to buy Splinter
Cell, so I'm not happy to hear that it has problems with the 8800. Of
course, i've heard this game has a lot of problems in general...


If the wet-blanket approach of waiting until all the hot spots of new
hardware bugginess are put out vexes you, I can recommend the 7950GT as
the card to suit your needs.

It is mature, drivers are very robust, it is a superior performer, it's
a true plug and play upgrade, no new PSU or CPU or motherboard required
in an average PCI-E based system. You also have the option of getting it
in 'silent'.

I run BF2 with a 7950GT @ 4xFSAA+ gamma correction and supersampling +
16x trilinearly filtered anisotropic goodness all at 1600x1200 at high
refresh rates, and the game renders faster than I can move my mouse.

I mention that to assure you that the 7950GT can handle BF2, it can also
handle Oblivion at 1600x1200 no antialiasing, 16x 'bri-linear'
anisotropic filtering along with HDR with, here's the best part, all
landscape 512x512 textures replaced with 4096x4096 textures. The 512M of
onboard ram certainly comes in handy with that texture loading, it never
hiccups!

It also has HDMI, if that concerns you. But it is no 8800GTS, then
again, in three months, the 8800GTS will be yesterday's news, but the
7950GT will still be a rock solid performer. I think the GeForce8
architecture is very solidly built and will scale nicely in the future.


 




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