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Old November 5th 03, 10:39 PM
Venadium
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Default 9800 Pro All-in-Wonder, plus a few other questions

I'm in the early stages of upgrading my PC, again. Since I now have a job,
live at home, and therefore have no bills to pay (yet), I can finally afford
to purchase hardware that is top-of-the-line now, not 6 months - 1 year ago.
One of the things I'll definately be buying is the 9800 Pro. While shopping
around, I noticed the 9800 Pro All-in-Wonder is generally less than $10 more
than the 9800 Pro. I do a small amount of video editing, and my old WinTV
card is starting to show its age. Would it be worth it to get the
All-in-Wonder? Will it perform exactly as well as a 9800 Pro, with the added
VIVO features? The card I am looking to purchase (9800 Pro All-in-Wonder
128MB) is manufactured by Sapphire.

Also, I have a question about dual-displays. Currently I am using 2
monitors, the primary display driven by a GeForce4 Ti4200, the secondary
display by a GeForce2MX. Will I run into issues with conficting drivers by
having the 9800 Pro and GeForce2 running simultaneously? Or would it be
easier to just purchase an older ATI card to replace the older GeForce card?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer.


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Old November 6th 03, 03:51 AM
Guess Who
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If you live at home and have a job, you should worry about paying your
parents rent before you worry about buying a top of the line computer.
Learn responsibility, it makes you much happier in the long run.

"Venadium" wrote in message
...
I'm in the early stages of upgrading my PC, again. Since I now have a job,
live at home, and therefore have no bills to pay (yet), I can finally

afford
to purchase hardware that is top-of-the-line now, not 6 months - 1 year

ago.
One of the things I'll definately be buying is the 9800 Pro. While

shopping
around, I noticed the 9800 Pro All-in-Wonder is generally less than $10

more
than the 9800 Pro. I do a small amount of video editing, and my old WinTV
card is starting to show its age. Would it be worth it to get the
All-in-Wonder? Will it perform exactly as well as a 9800 Pro, with the

added
VIVO features? The card I am looking to purchase (9800 Pro All-in-Wonder
128MB) is manufactured by Sapphire.

Also, I have a question about dual-displays. Currently I am using 2
monitors, the primary display driven by a GeForce4 Ti4200, the secondary
display by a GeForce2MX. Will I run into issues with conficting drivers by
having the 9800 Pro and GeForce2 running simultaneously? Or would it be
easier to just purchase an older ATI card to replace the older GeForce

card?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer.




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Old November 6th 03, 05:03 AM
Todd Howard
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Careful, the soapbox is unsteady.....
geesh, does it affect you in ANY way how the guy spends his money....?
TH
"Guess Who" wrote in message
news
If you live at home and have a job, you should worry about paying your
parents rent before you worry about buying a top of the line computer.
Learn responsibility, it makes you much happier in the long run.

"Venadium" wrote in message
...
I'm in the early stages of upgrading my PC, again. Since I now have a

job,
live at home, and therefore have no bills to pay (yet), I can finally

afford
to purchase hardware that is top-of-the-line now, not 6 months - 1 year

ago.
One of the things I'll definately be buying is the 9800 Pro. While

shopping
around, I noticed the 9800 Pro All-in-Wonder is generally less than $10

more
than the 9800 Pro. I do a small amount of video editing, and my old

WinTV
card is starting to show its age. Would it be worth it to get the
All-in-Wonder? Will it perform exactly as well as a 9800 Pro, with the

added
VIVO features? The card I am looking to purchase (9800 Pro All-in-Wonder
128MB) is manufactured by Sapphire.

Also, I have a question about dual-displays. Currently I am using 2
monitors, the primary display driven by a GeForce4 Ti4200, the secondary
display by a GeForce2MX. Will I run into issues with conficting drivers

by
having the 9800 Pro and GeForce2 running simultaneously? Or would it be
easier to just purchase an older ATI card to replace the older GeForce

card?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer.






  #4  
Old November 6th 03, 06:39 AM
J.Clarke
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:31 -0500
"Guess Who" wrote:

If you live at home and have a job, you should worry about paying your
parents rent before you worry about buying a top of the line computer.
Learn responsibility, it makes you much happier in the long run.


Why should he pay his parents rent if they haven't asked him to? Seems
to me that that's their business and not yours.

"Venadium" wrote in message
...
I'm in the early stages of upgrading my PC, again. Since I now have
a job, live at home, and therefore have no bills to pay (yet), I can
finally

afford
to purchase hardware that is top-of-the-line now, not 6 months - 1
year

ago.
One of the things I'll definately be buying is the 9800 Pro. While

shopping
around, I noticed the 9800 Pro All-in-Wonder is generally less than
$10

more
than the 9800 Pro. I do a small amount of video editing, and my old
WinTV card is starting to show its age. Would it be worth it to get
the All-in-Wonder? Will it perform exactly as well as a 9800 Pro,
with the

added
VIVO features? The card I am looking to purchase (9800 Pro
All-in-Wonder 128MB) is manufactured by Sapphire.

Also, I have a question about dual-displays. Currently I am using 2
monitors, the primary display driven by a GeForce4 Ti4200, the
secondary display by a GeForce2MX. Will I run into issues with
conficting drivers by having the 9800 Pro and GeForce2 running
simultaneously? Or would it be easier to just purchase an older ATI
card to replace the older GeForce

card?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer.






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Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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Old November 10th 03, 01:44 PM
J.Clarke
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:46 +0100
"Manu T" wrote:

seems a lot of ppl in here who don't wanna pay rent :-)


Seems to me that a lot of people want to tell this guy to tell his
parents how to raise him. If his parents want him to pay them
rent I'm sure they'll tell him. For all you know his day job could be
paramedic, police officer, or some other occupation in which he gets
more"responsibility" than most people can handle. And for all you know
he could be living in a 50 room mansion on which an appropriate "rent"
would rival the gross national product of some third-world countries.

Never ceases to amaze me how many people are so sure that they have
discovered the One And Only Good, Right, And True Way, and get snotty
when someone suggests that maybe that might not work for everybody.

It's his money, it's his business what he does with it. It's his
parents' house, it's their business what they do with it.

Personally my house is paid for and I've got no kids living at home so
it's no skin off my butt one way or the other.

"J.Clarke" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:31 -0500
"Guess Who" wrote:

If you live at home and have a job, you should worry about paying
your parents rent before you worry about buying a top of the line
computer. Learn responsibility, it makes you much happier in the
long run.


Why should he pay his parents rent if they haven't asked him to?
Seems to me that that's their business and not yours.

"Venadium" wrote in message
...
I'm in the early stages of upgrading my PC, again. Since I now
have a job, live at home, and therefore have no bills to pay
(yet), I can finally
afford
to purchase hardware that is top-of-the-line now, not 6 months -
1 year
ago.
One of the things I'll definately be buying is the 9800 Pro.
While
shopping
around, I noticed the 9800 Pro All-in-Wonder is generally less
than$10
more
than the 9800 Pro. I do a small amount of video editing, and my
old WinTV card is starting to show its age. Would it be worth it
to get the All-in-Wonder? Will it perform exactly as well as a
9800 Pro, with the
added
VIVO features? The card I am looking to purchase (9800 Pro
All-in-Wonder 128MB) is manufactured by Sapphire.

Also, I have a question about dual-displays. Currently I am
using 2 monitors, the primary display driven by a GeForce4
Ti4200, the secondary display by a GeForce2MX. Will I run into
issues with conficting drivers by having the 9800 Pro and
GeForce2 running simultaneously? Or would it be easier to just
purchase an older ATI card to replace the older GeForce
card?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer.






--
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)





--
--
--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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Old November 10th 03, 02:24 PM
Manu T
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seems a lot of ppl in here who don't wanna pay rent :-)


"J.Clarke" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:31 -0500
"Guess Who" wrote:

If you live at home and have a job, you should worry about paying your
parents rent before you worry about buying a top of the line computer.
Learn responsibility, it makes you much happier in the long run.


Why should he pay his parents rent if they haven't asked him to? Seems
to me that that's their business and not yours.

"Venadium" wrote in message
...
I'm in the early stages of upgrading my PC, again. Since I now have
a job, live at home, and therefore have no bills to pay (yet), I can
finally

afford
to purchase hardware that is top-of-the-line now, not 6 months - 1
year

ago.
One of the things I'll definately be buying is the 9800 Pro. While

shopping
around, I noticed the 9800 Pro All-in-Wonder is generally less than
$10

more
than the 9800 Pro. I do a small amount of video editing, and my old
WinTV card is starting to show its age. Would it be worth it to get
the All-in-Wonder? Will it perform exactly as well as a 9800 Pro,
with the

added
VIVO features? The card I am looking to purchase (9800 Pro
All-in-Wonder 128MB) is manufactured by Sapphire.

Also, I have a question about dual-displays. Currently I am using 2
monitors, the primary display driven by a GeForce4 Ti4200, the
secondary display by a GeForce2MX. Will I run into issues with
conficting drivers by having the 9800 Pro and GeForce2 running
simultaneously? Or would it be easier to just purchase an older ATI
card to replace the older GeForce

card?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer.






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--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



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Old November 10th 03, 09:17 PM
bob cox
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What "it" is to me is irrelevant. This group does not exist to
discuss the merits of each others' ownership of expensive computer
gear...



plus paying rent is so uneconomical. He should put off moving out
until he can get a mortgage.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:44:41 -0500, "J.Clarke"
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:46 +0100
"Manu T" wrote:

seems a lot of ppl in here who don't wanna pay rent :-)


Seems to me that a lot of people want to tell this guy to tell his
parents how to raise him. If his parents want him to pay them
rent I'm sure they'll tell him. For all you know his day job could be
paramedic, police officer, or some other occupation in which he gets
more"responsibility" than most people can handle. And for all you know
he could be living in a 50 room mansion on which an appropriate "rent"
would rival the gross national product of some third-world countries.

Never ceases to amaze me how many people are so sure that they have
discovered the One And Only Good, Right, And True Way, and get snotty
when someone suggests that maybe that might not work for everybody.

It's his money, it's his business what he does with it. It's his
parents' house, it's their business what they do with it.

Personally my house is paid for and I've got no kids living at home so
it's no skin off my butt one way or the other.

"J.Clarke" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:31 -0500
"Guess Who" wrote:

If you live at home and have a job, you should worry about paying
your parents rent before you worry about buying a top of the line
computer. Learn responsibility, it makes you much happier in the
long run.

Why should he pay his parents rent if they haven't asked him to?
Seems to me that that's their business and not yours.

"Venadium" wrote in message
...
I'm in the early stages of upgrading my PC, again. Since I now
have a job, live at home, and therefore have no bills to pay
(yet), I can finally
afford
to purchase hardware that is top-of-the-line now, not 6 months -
1 year
ago.
One of the things I'll definately be buying is the 9800 Pro.
While
shopping
around, I noticed the 9800 Pro All-in-Wonder is generally less
than$10
more
than the 9800 Pro. I do a small amount of video editing, and my
old WinTV card is starting to show its age. Would it be worth it
to get the All-in-Wonder? Will it perform exactly as well as a
9800 Pro, with the
added
VIVO features? The card I am looking to purchase (9800 Pro
All-in-Wonder 128MB) is manufactured by Sapphire.

Also, I have a question about dual-displays. Currently I am
using 2 monitors, the primary display driven by a GeForce4
Ti4200, the secondary display by a GeForce2MX. Will I run into
issues with conficting drivers by having the 9800 Pro and
GeForce2 running simultaneously? Or would it be easier to just
purchase an older ATI card to replace the older GeForce
card?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer.






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Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
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Old November 10th 03, 11:42 PM
J.Clarke
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:17:38 -0500
bob cox wrote:

What "it" is to me is irrelevant. This group does not exist to
discuss the merits of each others' ownership of expensive computer
gear...



plus paying rent is so uneconomical. He should put off moving out
until he can get a mortgage.


Depends--if he can earn more on his money than the mortgage rate then it
makes sense, otherwise he should wait until he can pay cash. Or until
he inherits the house.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:44:41 -0500, "J.Clarke"
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:46 +0100
"Manu T" wrote:

seems a lot of ppl in here who don't wanna pay rent :-)


Seems to me that a lot of people want to tell this guy to tell his
parents how to raise him. If his parents want him to pay them
rent I'm sure they'll tell him. For all you know his day job could
be paramedic, police officer, or some other occupation in which he
gets more"responsibility" than most people can handle. And for all
you know he could be living in a 50 room mansion on which an
appropriate "rent" would rival the gross national product of some
third-world countries.

Never ceases to amaze me how many people are so sure that they have
discovered the One And Only Good, Right, And True Way, and get snotty
when someone suggests that maybe that might not work for everybody.

It's his money, it's his business what he does with it. It's his
parents' house, it's their business what they do with it.

Personally my house is paid for and I've got no kids living at home
so it's no skin off my butt one way or the other.

"J.Clarke" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:51:31 -0500
"Guess Who" wrote:

If you live at home and have a job, you should worry about

paying your parents rent before you worry about buying a top of
the line computer. Learn responsibility, it makes you much
happier in the long run.

Why should he pay his parents rent if they haven't asked him to?
Seems to me that that's their business and not yours.

"Venadium" wrote in message
...
I'm in the early stages of upgrading my PC, again. Since I

now have a job, live at home, and therefore have no bills to
pay (yet), I can finally
afford
to purchase hardware that is top-of-the-line now, not 6

months - 1 year
ago.
One of the things I'll definately be buying is the 9800 Pro.
While
shopping
around, I noticed the 9800 Pro All-in-Wonder is generally

less than$10
more
than the 9800 Pro. I do a small amount of video editing, and

my old WinTV card is starting to show its age. Would it be
worth it to get the All-in-Wonder? Will it perform exactly as
well as a 9800 Pro, with the
added
VIVO features? The card I am looking to purchase (9800 Pro
All-in-Wonder 128MB) is manufactured by Sapphire.

Also, I have a question about dual-displays. Currently I am
using 2 monitors, the primary display driven by a GeForce4
Ti4200, the secondary display by a GeForce2MX. Will I run

into issues with conficting drivers by having the 9800 Pro and
GeForce2 running simultaneously? Or would it be easier to

just purchase an older ATI card to replace the older GeForce
card?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer.






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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)




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