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Solved problems with 44.03 and Directx 9.0 and the Lack of NVIDIA support



 
 
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Old June 26th 03, 06:05 PM
George C. Sievers
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Default Solved problems with 44.03 and Directx 9.0 and the Lack of NVIDIA support

I want to congratulate NVIDIA for being the only major company I have ever
seen that claims they do not produce anything so - they don't have to
support anything. There is NO PLACE I COULD FIND on their website for me to
return information to them on problems I had with their 44.03 driver. If
NVIDIA did not write this driver, then WHO DID?

I can guarantee that my next video card upgrade will not be NVIDIA. They
make no effort to provide their customers with any information at all about
problems with their most recent "universal driver" and Directx 9.0. After
upgrading my machine to their 44.03 driver (which they claim no
responsibililty for) and then installing Directx 9.0 none of the Direct3d
tests would run without failure. I reinstalled Directx 9.0 and still no
Direct3D. Finally, I reverted to NVIDIA's 40.72 and everything works. The
ONLY plus I give NVIDIA is the ease with which I was able to downgrade.
When I look for a place to post my problem on their web site so that other
users can be informed, THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE.

BTW, I have the following setup:

Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
IE 5 6.0.2800.1106
Normal mode

AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1.0 GHZ
512MB RAM- 133 FSB - DDR

NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 64MB





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Old June 26th 03, 08:42 PM
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George C. Sievers wrote:
I want to congratulate NVIDIA for being the only major company I have ever
seen that claims they do not produce anything so - they don't have to
support anything. There is NO PLACE I COULD FIND on their website for me to
return information to them on problems I had with their 44.03 driver. If
NVIDIA did not write this driver, then WHO DID?
[snip]


But, you could always use the drivers supplied by your video card
manufacturers, could you not? The manufacturers do provide their own
drivers, don't they? But you still chose to use the "original one" from
Nvidia, did you not?

I'll never say never again. Life's too many rules already, why should I
give myself another one?



Brian




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Old June 26th 03, 08:58 PM
Derek Wildstar
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"George C. Sievers" wrote in message
news:PJFKa.23629$Bg.13581@rwcrnsc54...

I want to congratulate NVIDIA for being the only major company I have ever
seen that claims they do not produce anything so - they don't have to
support anything. There is NO PLACE I COULD FIND on their website for me

to
return information to them on problems I had with their 44.03 driver. If
NVIDIA did not write this driver, then WHO DID?


Do not let your frustration cloud your reasoning. Such hyperbole doesn't
help you present your case, which you have, in spite of your mini-rant.

No, there is no bug-reporting on nvidia's website accessable to the general
public. Nor, will you find one at ATIs for their catalyst suite either.

To answer your question, nvidia does write their detonator drivers, and they
have a very large department made up of dozens, potentially 100 persons who
do nothing but toil upon them, in various degrees of involvement. At one
point, nvidia reported nearly 300 persons working in the driver development
dept.


I can guarantee that my next video card upgrade will not be NVIDIA. They
make no effort to provide their customers with any information at all

about
problems with their most recent "universal driver" and Directx 9.0. After
upgrading my machine to their 44.03 driver (which they claim no
responsibililty for) and then installing Directx 9.0 none of the Direct3d
tests would run without failure. I reinstalled Directx 9.0 and still no
Direct3D. Finally, I reverted to NVIDIA's 40.72 and everything works. The
ONLY plus I give NVIDIA is the ease with which I was able to downgrade.
When I look for a place to post my problem on their web site so that other
users can be informed, THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE.


There are several places to provide feedback on drivers. If you have a
specific technical query from a developers perspective, you would already
know how and to whom to address your issues.

As an end user, who has taken it upon themselves to self-upgrade, you have
the responsibility to self-police. By investigating on-line resources, such
as guru3d, hardocp, anadtech, tom's hardware, firingsquad, hexus.net,
nforcehq and, not in the least, usenet you would have a vast library of user
input to help you troubleshoot and correct any potential problem.

Which, it seems, you corrected. Congratulations on your technical victory.



BTW, I have the following setup:

Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
IE 5 6.0.2800.1106
Normal mode

AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1.0 GHZ
512MB RAM- 133 FSB - DDR

NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 64MB



If you had done your research, you would have already understood that the
44.XX's are optimzed and WHQL'ed for the more current nvidia cards, of
which, yours isn't.

In addition, Win9x is no longer officially supported by Microsoft, so any
DirectX problem is going to have to be self-managed as well.

I can understand completely your position, however, it is the reality of the
modern marketplace, that older equipment, such as yours, is too burdensome
for the manufacturer to support when the enthusiast and technical community
has already archived the solutions and moved on.

So, you had a problem with your dated equipment and non WHQL drivers,
couldn't find the solution on the manufacturer's web site, fixed it
yourself, and then complained. You then state you will not support nvidia
for their lack of support. I counter that there is much more support from
nvidia and the technical-irregulars, such as in this very forum, then you
will find from any other vendor.

Think on that for awhile.





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Old June 27th 03, 12:30 AM
tq96
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There are several places to provide feedback on drivers. If you have a
specific technical query from a developers perspective, you would
already know how and to whom to address your issues.

resources, such as guru3d, hardocp, anadtech, tom's hardware,
firingsquad, hexus.net, nforcehq and, not in the least, usenet you

There is no way for an end user to report a bug directly to NVidia. This
just hurts all the other end users because bugs go unresolved. Posting
about it in forums like this doesn't help either. Ever since driver 42.01,
the drivers will change the Digital Vibrance setting of the secondary
display to "Low" whenever an overlay is created. We're now up to 44.65 and
this bug hasn't been fixed, thoguh it might have been if there was a way to
tell NVidia about it.
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Old June 26th 03, 09:42 PM
Philip Sack
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I'd like to point out he is using a basically discontinued OS, win 98 has
problems with the newer stuff. I tried to throw on detonator drivers on a
98 machine, and it got so bad I had to reformat cause the system got messed
up.

"George C. Sievers" wrote in message
news:PJFKa.23629$Bg.13581@rwcrnsc54...
I want to congratulate NVIDIA for being the only major company I have ever
seen that claims they do not produce anything so - they don't have to
support anything. There is NO PLACE I COULD FIND on their website for me

to
return information to them on problems I had with their 44.03 driver. If
NVIDIA did not write this driver, then WHO DID?

I can guarantee that my next video card upgrade will not be NVIDIA. They
make no effort to provide their customers with any information at all

about
problems with their most recent "universal driver" and Directx 9.0. After
upgrading my machine to their 44.03 driver (which they claim no
responsibililty for) and then installing Directx 9.0 none of the Direct3d
tests would run without failure. I reinstalled Directx 9.0 and still no
Direct3D. Finally, I reverted to NVIDIA's 40.72 and everything works. The
ONLY plus I give NVIDIA is the ease with which I was able to downgrade.
When I look for a place to post my problem on their web site so that other
users can be informed, THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE.

BTW, I have the following setup:

Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
IE 5 6.0.2800.1106
Normal mode

AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1.0 GHZ
512MB RAM- 133 FSB - DDR

NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 64MB







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Old July 15th 03, 08:30 PM
Mark Stier
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I once tested a Radeon 7500. ATI's drivers are even worse. At least
they were in my case (no dual boot possible!). nVidia is the best.
Which of course doesn't mean they are anything like perfect. :-(
 




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