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Are there any PC monitor goggles or glasses?
It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles
we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist? |
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Are there any PC monitor goggles or glasses?
mur@. wrote:
It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist? This gadget uses USB for power and HDMI for data. If the HDMI has a +5V pin on it, I don't know if there is enough power there to run a display. https://www.adafruit.com/product/1928 And there are display technologies with much higher resolutions. Some of the SmartPhones have higher than HD and are about the same size. The goggle idea gets you a little too close to the action, and maybe a stereoscopic display makes more sense. And conventional computers might not be ready to drive such a thing. The current stand-alone VR goggles are a little too expensive, maybe because they have too much gadgetry for simple viewing applications. Adafruit apparently made a couple other sizes. Prices and availability of these things is all over the place. Companies making small quantities of "unique" product, stand to lose their shirts when sales aren't brisk enough. So it's a very risky business to be in (imagine having a pile of 5" displays piled up that nobody is buying). The big companies are smart enough to stay away from such things. Once "everyone agrees" an idea is good, the small companies are kicked to the curb by declining prices. And the big company grabs it all. Paul |
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Are there any PC monitor goggles or glasses?
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:12:26 -0500, mur@. wrote:
It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist? I looked around, but most of them are "smart" glasses made for "dumb" people that don't see the downside of getting everything they look and say at being transmitted to and stored by some third party database for later "sharing with it's partners". I'm sure cheap "monitor" glasses exist, but Glugle is excluding them from my search results. Meanwhile, I suggest a portable 7" LED monitor. About 60 dollars. Cheaper than glasses. PS Don't expect any feedback from our moderator. He never helps anyone unless he gets a cut, or he can use his reply as an excuse for STALKING. Notice I didn't name or suggest any brand. []'s ........................................... Warning !!!! https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Are there any PC monitor goggles or glasses?
On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 13:20:48 -0200, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:12:26 -0500, mur@. wrote: It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist? I looked around, but most of them are "smart" glasses made for "dumb" people that don't see the downside of getting everything they look and say at being transmitted to and stored by some third party database for later "sharing with it's partners". I'm sure cheap "monitor" glasses exist, There are lots of them that are just regular glasses for looking at a monitor with. but Glugle is excluding them from my search results. There are these: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-...CABEgJUuvD_BwE but don't know if they'd work for what I want. They say they're wireless, but what transmits the signal? Meanwhile, I suggest a portable 7" LED monitor. About 60 dollars. Cheaper than glasses. So far the best option I'm afraid. PS Don't expect any feedback from our moderator. From my pov it's shameful that there are moderated groups at all. It's a direct insult to the idea of freedom of speach, and ends up being nothing better than a playground for the dictator/"moderator" in ever single example I've ever seen. He never helps anyone unless he gets a cut, or he can use his reply as an excuse for STALKING. Notice I didn't name or suggest any brand. []'s .......................................... Warning !!!! https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php |
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:59:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
mur@. wrote: It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist? This gadget uses USB for power and HDMI for data. If the HDMI has a +5V pin on it, I don't know if there is enough power there to run a display. https://www.adafruit.com/product/1928 Thank you for that! But by the time you hooked all that up it wouldn't be any easier than a regular monitor. There must be some advantage I guess, but not in my situation afaik. And there are display technologies with much higher resolutions. Some of the SmartPhones have higher than HD and are about the same size. The goggle idea gets you a little too close to the action, and maybe a stereoscopic display makes more sense. And conventional computers might not be ready to drive such a thing. The current stand-alone VR goggles are a little too expensive, maybe because they have too much gadgetry for simple viewing applications. Adafruit apparently made a couple other sizes. Prices and availability of these things is all over the place. Companies making small quantities of "unique" product, stand to lose their shirts when sales aren't brisk enough. So it's a very risky business to be in (imagine having a pile of 5" displays piled up that nobody is buying). The big companies are smart enough to stay away from such things. Once "everyone agrees" an idea is good, the small companies are kicked to the curb by declining prices. And the big company grabs it all. Paul |
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Shadow wrote:
PS Don't expect any feedback from our moderator. He never helps anyone unless he gets a cut, or he can use his reply as an excuse for STALKING. Notice I didn't name or suggest any brand. Who is our moderator? |
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mur@. wrote:
There are these: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-...CABEgJUuvD_BwE but don't know if they'd work for what I want. They say they're wireless, but what transmits the signal? Those are similar to these. This is not what the glasses do, but the concept in this article shows how you can do stereoscopic projection. The Nvidia glasses are a variation on the "View Master" concept of glasses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglyph_3D The NVidia glasses are some sort of liquid crystal shutter. One eye is blacked out, during one frame of the LCD screen. Then, the glasses switch and the other eye is blacked out, and a second frame presented on the LCD screen. The presentation of the two different images, one for each eye, and the persistence of vision, gives "fake 3D". The objects in each image have to be shifted slight to give "depth" in the human brain. It requires a display with a 2X refresh rate. At one time, there was a connector on the video card faceplate, with a logic signal to switch the glasses back and forth. This synchronizes what the glasses are doing, with the screen updates. It requires that the correct NVidia driver is loaded, plus a means is needed of wiring up the glasses. Because LCD screens have "latency" from connector to screen, some adjustment may be needed, to temporally center the presented images, with the blanking of one eye on the glasses. Some LCD monitors have a thru-delay of four frames (a *long* delay). CRTs don't have a delay for processing, from VGA connector to the screen. CRTs only go that fast, if you drop the resolution setting. So those glasses don't present a display, they just modulate the light so that each eye sees a slightly different image, and it allows 3D presentation as a result. It's similar to red/green glasses, only without using gel filters. And requires L-R-L-R sequence of LCD monitor images by the video card. The NVidia driver knows how to do that. The application also has to know you want that, to feed the correct data to NVidia. The glasses can be used for Mechanical CAD, to review OpenGL 3D images of solid objects, in eye-popping projection. You can view a rotating tea pot, and the "spout" pokes out of the screen at you. If the glasses had a battery in the frame of the glasses, and the glasses used Wifi for the sync signal, this would make the glasses wireless. This allows more freedom when sitting at your desk. ******* http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/3d-vi...nology-uk.html Requirements include: 120Hz monitor. The majority of consumer monitors are nominal 60Hz type and unsuited to this. Dropping the effect to 30Hz is a bit disturbing (first person shooter latency, reduced game framerate). http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/3d-vi...ements-uk.html There is at least one gamer monitor rated for 144Hz refresh, so it would be fast enough. The 144Hz monitor uses a TN panel as far as I know. Such a monitor only has correct colors, if you sit centered in front of the screen. This idea has always been a "fringe" thing, for people with money to waste :-) I don't know if there is nausea or not. You'd need to find a review on the web, to learn more. I don't even know a good technical term for these. They're not really Anaglyphic, and they should not screw up the color. But the idea is the same, to fool the human brain, with two different visual fields intended for stereoscopy. Paul |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:04:43 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote: Shadow wrote: PS Don't expect any feedback from our moderator. He never helps anyone unless he gets a cut, or he can use his reply as an excuse for STALKING. Notice I didn't name or suggest any brand. Who is our moderator? In alt.computer.workshop, this one claims to be: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php But it's probably just another drunken confabulation. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Are there any PC monitor goggles or glasses?
mur@. wrote:
It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist? Interesting idea. Not for general PC use here, since I definitely need to see things going on in peripheral vision around me. Gaming might be an exception. |
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On 2018-01-14, mur@. mur@ (in message ) transcribed: It seems that it would sometimes be convenient if there are some type of goggles we could hook up to a computer to do some quick tasks without having to have a monitor, especially if we have more than one computer and are just using one of them to back things up, or any similar situations. So far all I've been able to find are some expensive types for gaming, and some that look like they only work with a cell phone. Does what I'm looking for not exist? The days of Johnny Mnumonic are coming soon. The VR Revolution is coming soon. You can have all the fun you want, soon. -- |-----/ | Se7en / The One and Only! | l / | 0x73518A15BA3C1476 / | http://koolkidsklub.tech/~se7en/ |
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