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Something very scary just happened.
Hello,
I was trying to find some source codes, I could have sworn I made them somewhere. I was starting vmware to see if it was maybe in a virtual environment. Then I wondered, hmmm: maybe it's on my old pentium III. I tried to power up the pentium III but the cable wasn't plugged in, so it was probably now on on, but no power. I plugged in the power cable and then it happened: 1. Zaap, BAM.... all lights went out, my dreampc 2006 went out.... total darkness... I sweared... I thought I just blew up all my computers. I smelled a burning smoke. Then I went to bed and took a few minutes to relax because it was quite scaring. I suspected the circuit breaker or something like went off... and so I did. I just re-enabled it (after unplugging all cables)... and then went back into apperement and flipped switches and all lights came back on again. Then I went to my dreampc 2006 to see if it was dead or alive. Fortunately it seems to be still alive, since I am writing this message on it. So I had quite a scare... now the question is what happened ?!? I have two possible explanations: 1. The watt/power load on the rails became to big and it exceeded 3600 watts and the power blew... though this seems somewhat unlikely since dreampc2006 is 700 watts... the receiver is 700 watts, so that's only 1400 watts, plus some lightbulb at 60 watts is about 1500 watts or so... But maybe the rail needs to be divided by 2 so maybe only 1800 watts allowed or so ?!? Still this number does not seem to reach. So second possible explanation: 2. I once fixed the power supply of the old pentium III, it's fan was making a ****ty noise, so I had to clean the fan, I had to cut cables... because it was unpluggable. Later I attached the cables again by "cross the wires" "crossing streams" never cross the streams ! LOL.... No seriously... I had to tie the copper-wires together again... but leaving them exposed to each other in the power supply. I wrapped some plastic sticker tape around the copper wires to prevent them from short circuiting. I kinda new because of all the dust it would be a matter of time before it would let loose... I wondered about that not so long ago like a year ago... the fix was done like 12 years ago or so... So my second explanation is: somehow a short circuit existed in the old pentium III, perhaps it could have even electrocuted it me if it wasn;'t for the circuit breakers or if was touching it at the same time of plugging in or something... fortunately the power wall socket was a meter away. Or something totally different happened. (I will have to check pentium iii power supply) Possible explanation 3: 3. Or something totally different happened... perhaps there was a power differential/difference, potential difference... between pentium III and the dreampc+receiver... And suddenly this potential difference leaked into the ground and cause the circuit breaker to flip. I actually think explanation 2 is the less likely one, since I have experienced other weird electrical problems... (wall sockets are still just the 2 plug versions). To an electrician explanation 2 might seem most likely, but not to me... I wouldn't be surprised if it was something freaky and it was actually 3. Explanantion 1 seems next likely... Or perhaps it was something even more freaky: 4. Some kind of weird slow electrical/drain/hole/non-existing power in cable, leading to some strange surge... There is a point to the story: Suppose it's explanantion 2: a short circuit in the power supply. Then there is a lesson to be learned from that: never ever buy second hand equipment... If I sold my pentium III with that sloppy fix it might have killed somebody ! =D Another lesson: Fans and dust suck and lead to these kinds of problems and issues. Bye, Skybuck. |
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Something very scary just happened.
On 8/30/2011 2:19 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
Hello, I was trying to find some source codes, I could have sworn I made them somewhere. I was starting vmware to see if it was maybe in a virtual environment. Then I wondered, hmmm: maybe it's on my old pentium III. I tried to power up the pentium III but the cable wasn't plugged in, so it was probably now on on, but no power. I plugged in the power cable and then it happened: 1. Zaap, BAM.... all lights went out, my dreampc 2006 went out.... total darkness... I sweared... I thought I just blew up all my computers. I smelled a burning smoke. Then I went to bed and took a few minutes to relax because it was quite scaring. I suspected the circuit breaker or something like went off... and so I did. I just re-enabled it (after unplugging all cables)... and then went back into apperement and flipped switches and all lights came back on again. Then I went to my dreampc 2006 to see if it was dead or alive. Fortunately it seems to be still alive, since I am writing this message on it. So I had quite a scare... now the question is what happened ?!? I have two possible explanations: 1. The watt/power load on the rails became to big and it exceeded 3600 watts and the power blew... though this seems somewhat unlikely since dreampc2006 is 700 watts... the receiver is 700 watts, so that's only 1400 watts, plus some lightbulb at 60 watts is about 1500 watts or so... But maybe the rail needs to be divided by 2 so maybe only 1800 watts allowed or so ?!? Still this number does not seem to reach. So second possible explanation: 2. I once fixed the power supply of the old pentium III, it's fan was making a ****ty noise, so I had to clean the fan, I had to cut cables... because it was unpluggable. Later I attached the cables again by "cross the wires" "crossing streams" never cross the streams ! LOL.... No seriously... I had to tie the copper-wires together again... but leaving them exposed to each other in the power supply. I wrapped some plastic sticker tape around the copper wires to prevent them from short circuiting. I kinda new because of all the dust it would be a matter of time before it would let loose... I wondered about that not so long ago like a year ago... the fix was done like 12 years ago or so... So my second explanation is: somehow a short circuit existed in the old pentium III, perhaps it could have even electrocuted it me if it wasn;'t for the circuit breakers or if was touching it at the same time of plugging in or something... fortunately the power wall socket was a meter away. Or something totally different happened. (I will have to check pentium iii power supply) Possible explanation 3: 3. Or something totally different happened... perhaps there was a power differential/difference, potential difference... between pentium III and the dreampc+receiver... And suddenly this potential difference leaked into the ground and cause the circuit breaker to flip. I actually think explanation 2 is the less likely one, since I have experienced other weird electrical problems... (wall sockets are still just the 2 plug versions). To an electrician explanation 2 might seem most likely, but not to me... I wouldn't be surprised if it was something freaky and it was actually 3. Explanantion 1 seems next likely... Or perhaps it was something even more freaky: 4. Some kind of weird slow electrical/drain/hole/non-existing power in cable, leading to some strange surge... There is a point to the story: Suppose it's explanantion 2: a short circuit in the power supply. Then there is a lesson to be learned from that: never ever buy second hand equipment... If I sold my pentium III with that sloppy fix it might have killed somebody ! =D Another lesson: Fans and dust suck and lead to these kinds of problems and issues. Bye, Skybuck. 5. You hallucinated or dreamed it. |
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Something very scary just happened.
Another question which could literally point to the smoking gun:
1. Where did the smoke/smell come from ? (didn't see no smoke, but smelled it) 2. Why was there smoke/smell ? What caused it ? A. Perhaps the smoke/smell was caused by the pentium III power supply "exploding". Then question is still why: 3. Perhaps it was simply because of old age ? 4. Perhaps there was a spider web inside of it or a bug, perhaps a fly ? Causing some freaky short circuit ? 5. Perhaps fan cables finally short circuited ? 6. Perhaps plastic-tape touched something and short circuited it ? B. Or perhaps the smoke/smell came from wall socket itself because of too high load ? C. Or perhaps the smoke/smell came from DreamPC 2006 power supply ?!? Hmmmmm..... I think the most likely explanation is the smoke came from the Pentium III 450 mhz... Other explanation: D. Perhaps something fell into the power extension box. It has two power holes left uncovered. Perhaps dust accumilated into it and it blew... causing the smell/smoke. Perhaps even some metal fell into it like little screws or so but that's unlikely. This could be an indication that "open power holes" on power extension boxes are a bad thing, this is probably already known since newer version have closed holes when nothing is attached... ^ So another explanantion of why dust can be dangerous... filling up power holes... hmmm... The smoke/smell probably was a typical "burning dust" smell or so... So my best two explanation so far: 1. Dust in power extension box holes short-circuited and blew up. 2. Power supply of pentium III somehow blew. It was quite a powerfull bang to cause a circuit breaker to flip out like that... So maybe it was 1... But that doesn't seem to make much sense... power should be able to flow from + to - just like that ? Or maybe electrical equipment is to have some slower ampere or so... so slow flow... Or maybe some electricity leaked during the bang and was converted into energy... but then it would not have gone to the circuit breaker ?!? Unless it detects a 'missing current".... or "missing energy" from returning... Quite weird... So maybe circuit breakers can work in two ways: 1. Either two much electricity being returned ? (no equipment using electricity but something whacky ?) 2. Either two little electricity being returned ? (short circuit with ground) Never heard of 1. Well now I am making up all kinds of crazy hypothesis... but it's also pretty crazy things around here ! It would be interesting if "myth busters" can test this theory: "What happens when a lot of dusts accumilates inside a power extension box" will it blow up ?!? Hopefully this is not what happened because that would be quite freaky... Hopefully it was something more easily explainable... like short circuit or overload... Bye, Skybuck. |
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Something very scary just happened.
Also something else came to mind...
Maybe coffee was spilled at electronics shop when I bought receiver... So maybe receiver has some electrical problem... Which causes it to leak electricity into "ground wire" and accumilate overtime which could explain the potential difference hypothesis... Whacky ! Yup theory is all nice and clean but practice is messy ! =D Bye, Skybuck. |
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Something very scary just happened.
Nope, wide a wake...
I just woke up and went... ! =D Bye, Skybuck =D |
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Something very scary just happened.
There is also a festival outside happening with big speakers...
Maybe that has something to do with it... Probably not, but ya never know... must not rule out anything ! Sometimes it's a freak occurence of many freaky things all happening and coming together ! Maybe they also plugged in their speakers at the same time as I was plugging in my pentium III... And it cause some kind of weird power surge or frequency change... ya never know ! Bye, Skybuck =D |
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Something very scary just happened.
Some other thoughts that went through my mind:
1. How am I now going to sue my "landlore" for ****ty electrical system... I have no more computer can't find a lawyer ! 2. **** I have no more computer, maybe I should go buy an ipad2 ! At least it will work without an electrical ****ty system. (But it will probably go dead in less than 24 hours, so it does need recharge, maybe it goes dead in just 2 or 3 hours, so also kinda ****ty). Now I am wondering: What if it was actually overload because of my power-cable-plugging theoretical system... "all power on one box" to make sure ground is connected. This does then have implications for the futu 1. I cannot buy additional computers AND run them at the same time... because of power limitations. I would then need to have electrical system updated/replaced so it can do more power... but that might be risky at high ground levels... so I am not sure what the hell I am doing and how it works... and many people seem confused about that too. + Dangerous to modify electrical systems nowadays if you don't know what ya doing... especially because the weather is changing... more rain and more thunder storms. The likelyhood of getting hit by thunder is increasing all the time... + Copper thieves making matters worse. + Higher load on electrical system in general because of more computers, and in future perhaps even electrical cars. A recipe for more power fluctuations. I'll even go into a stretch: The death of micheal jackson has shown the electrical system to become unstable if massive ammounts of people turn on their TV's ! At least that's what I believe ! Bye, Skybuck =D |
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Something very scary just happened.
Skybuck Flying wrote:
Nope, wide a wake... I just woke up and went... ! =D Bye, Skybuck =D Well, now that you're wide awake... 1) Unplug the Pentium III computer. 2) Remove the power supply. 3) Remove the four screws holding the top onto the power supply. 4) Examine the supply for visual damage, like a blown up main capacitor. You'll likely find some signs of damage in there. Do *not* touch anything in there. Open it up, have a look, conclude it is destroyed, and buy another power supply. The Pentium III motherboard could be ruined, but you won't know for sure, until you put the new power supply in it and test the computer again. With a new power supply, it should be safe to test. Do *not* attempt to turn on the old supply again. You should make no further attempt to run the old supply. And examining it visually inside, should tell you all you need to know. Paul |
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Something very scary just happened.
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:36:31 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
wrote: Nope, wide a wake... I just woke up and went... ! =D Hallucination it is, then. |
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Something very scary just happened.
wrote in message ... On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:36:31 +0200, "Skybuck Flying" wrote: Nope, wide a wake... I just woke up and went... ! =D Hallucination it is, then. Magic mushrooms. |
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