Buydig / Beech Camera

On Thu, 12 May 2005 21:17:29 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers
Buydig / Beech Camera "Tony" wrote:

What I have is nearly 40 years experience with mail order camera stores
and the tales of woe from many friends who've been screwed by Brooklyn, and
Jersey stores two of which - Beach and Abe's were obliged to leave Maine
because the state's attorney general's office was after them.

Good post. As a result of my personal experiences, I have not
purchased a piece of photo equipment from anywhere on the north east
coast in over 20-years.

--
To reply to me directly, remove the CLUTTER from my email address.

Siddhartha Jain wrote:

Tony wrote:


None I have met. When anoymus character(s) gush over places I know


from


their past history are not reliable I tend not to believe them. I


have no


idea if they are either who they claim to be, or know what they're


talking


about.
My credentials are public - There are pictures taken as early as


1965 and


as recently as 2004 on my website, along with a series of articles on
photography.



Dude, this is the anonymous world of the WWW/Internet. I've as much
reason to believe you or anyone as much they have to believe me. You
might be George W Bush, Elvis Presley


Woah! I am Elvis not him.

or Britney Spears but on the
internet you are just an email/usenet id. So if you go about
questioning other people's credentials over the net then it works the
other way around too.

There appears to be two different Tony's here, you and another, and the
other Tony has printer and ink experience. He posts without a visible
email address, so it appears there has been some confusion of some
people's parts here.

Art

Tony wrote:

I don't know who claims I'm in the ink business as he is killfiled. I would
suspect it is the usual troll with another bit of dis-information. I have
worked in a couple print shops - but not in the last 30 years.
The person you say helps a lot of people with printer problems is not me,
as I know little of any printer other than my own 6 year old Epson.

On Fri, 13 May 2005 06:25:23 GMT, "Tony" wrote:

None I have met. When anoymus character(s) gush over places I know from
their past history are not reliable I tend not to believe them. I have no
idea if they are either who they claim to be, or know what they're talking
about.

None you have met? You need to meet more people. Your single data
point is hardly justification for your sweeping conclusions.


My credentials are public - There are pictures taken as early as 1965 and
as recently as 2004 on my website, along with a series of articles on
photography.
Frankly my website and long history on this and other photography forums
pretty much makes me a reliable source, while you after all are merely a
name, with nothing to prove that your statements are not simply the rantings
of a nine year old pecking away on mommy's computer, or a clerk at Beach
Camera doing his best to suck up to the boss.

Your photographic experience hardly makes you an expert on anything
other than the techniques of photography and so not a reliable source
of information on the experiences of the whole world of photo gear
buyers.

And don't project your personality flaws onto me. You're nothing but a
name either and an arrogant asshole to boot. Your knowledge of common
logic is nonexistent.


Your opinion carries all the weight of those "surveys" where you pay a
dollar to phone in your vote -- ie; none. You are little more than thin air
without credentials.

As are you. Exactly what kind of credentials would you accept? Never
mind, you'll just describe yourself.

About six years ago I was in your situation. A gentleman told me that
without anything to back up what I was saying, my opinions were useless. So
I built a website. It isn't the coolest on the web as programming is not my
idea of fun, but the pitures and articles are proof that I'm not simply a
web weasel with an ax to grind or a paid shill. I would suggest that if you
want real credibility, take the time to build it. You certainly won't gain
any respect without showing your hand.

Credibility is a website? You're joking. Anyone can put whatever they
want on a website. By your own criteria, your opinions are worthless
since you have not one shred of evidence beyond your personal
prejudice. Besides the issue isn't a matter of photography but of
vendor-consumer relations, so photographic expertise has nil value.

On Fri, 13 May 2005 15:46:58 GMT, measekite
wrote:



Siddhartha Jain wrote:

Tony wrote:


None I have met. When anoymus character(s) gush over places I know


from


their past history are not reliable I tend not to believe them. I


have no


idea if they are either who they claim to be, or know what they're


talking


about.
My credentials are public - There are pictures taken as early as


1965 and


as recently as 2004 on my website, along with a series of articles on
photography.



Dude, this is the anonymous world of the WWW/Internet. I've as much
reason to believe you or anyone as much they have to believe me. You
might be George W Bush, Elvis Presley


Woah! I am Elvis not him.

Nonsense. Elvis went home.

or Britney Spears but on the
internet you are just an email/usenet id. So if you go about
questioning other people's credentials over the net then it works the
other way around too.

I just realized that myself. Either that or we have an example of "dual
personality"!

"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message
news:Iq4he.1336303$Xk.340406@pd7tw3no...
There appears to be two different Tony's here, you and another, and the
other Tony has printer and ink experience. He posts without a visible
email address, so it appears there has been some confusion of some
people's parts here.

Art

Tony wrote:

I don't know who claims I'm in the ink business as he is killfiled. I
would
suspect it is the usual troll with another bit of dis-information. I have
worked in a couple print shops - but not in the last 30 years.
The person you say helps a lot of people with printer problems is not
me,
as I know little of any printer other than my own 6 year old Epson.

I'm using my real name, and along with several other REAL people have had
the local troll publish my address and phone number on this forum. If you
are too lazy to check out my website - that is YOUR problem, not mine.
You are the one who is simply a screen name and could be working for
anyone.

--
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com
home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
The Improved Links Pages are at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html
A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html

"Siddhartha Jain" wrote in message
oups.com...
Tony wrote:
None I have met. When anoymus character(s) gush over places I know
from
their past history are not reliable I tend not to believe them. I
have no
idea if they are either who they claim to be, or know what they're
talking
about.
My credentials are public - There are pictures taken as early as
1965 and
as recently as 2004 on my website, along with a series of articles on
photography.

Dude, this is the anonymous world of the WWW/Internet. I've as much
reason to believe you or anyone as much they have to believe me. You
might be George W Bush, Elvis Presley or Britney Spears but on the
internet you are just an email/usenet id. So if you go about
questioning other people's credentials over the net then it works the
other way around too.

Nope - no dual personality. I have no idea who the other Tony is - it is
not an uncommon first name. My signature is (or should be) unique to me,
however as I doubt anyone else would want to advertise my website..

--
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com
home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
The Improved Links Pages are at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html
A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html


"Burt" wrote in message
m...
I just realized that myself. Either that or we have an example of "dual
personality"!

"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message
news:Iq4he.1336303$Xk.340406@pd7tw3no...
There appears to be two different Tony's here, you and another, and the
other Tony has printer and ink experience. He posts without a visible
email address, so it appears there has been some confusion of some
people's parts here.

Art

Tony wrote:

I don't know who claims I'm in the ink business as he is killfiled. I
would
suspect it is the usual troll with another bit of dis-information. I
have
worked in a couple print shops - but not in the last 30 years.
The person you say helps a lot of people with printer problems is not
me,
as I know little of any printer other than my own 6 year old Epson.

Well - we all now know what sort of web weasel we are dealing with in you.
If you had taken the time to read the Camera-ist's Manifesto you would
have seen the article on buying from mail order shops. Knowledge of the
stores selling the equipment is one of the side benefits of nearly 4
decades of photography. As I said. My credentials are public - while you are
apparently a major loser with an ax to grind.

--
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com
home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
The Improved Links Pages are at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html
A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html

"Oliver Costich" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 13 May 2005 06:25:23 GMT, "Tony" wrote:

None I have met. When anoymus character(s) gush over places I know from
their past history are not reliable I tend not to believe them. I have no
idea if they are either who they claim to be, or know what they're
talking
about.

None you have met? You need to meet more people. Your single data
point is hardly justification for your sweeping conclusions.


My credentials are public - There are pictures taken as early as 1965
and
as recently as 2004 on my website, along with a series of articles on
photography.
Frankly my website and long history on this and other photography
forums
pretty much makes me a reliable source, while you after all are merely a
name, with nothing to prove that your statements are not simply the
rantings
of a nine year old pecking away on mommy's computer, or a clerk at Beach
Camera doing his best to suck up to the boss.

Your photographic experience hardly makes you an expert on anything
other than the techniques of photography and so not a reliable source
of information on the experiences of the whole world of photo gear
buyers.

And don't project your personality flaws onto me. You're nothing but a
name either and an arrogant asshole to boot. Your knowledge of common
logic is nonexistent.


Your opinion carries all the weight of those "surveys" where you pay
a
dollar to phone in your vote -- ie; none. You are little more than thin
air
without credentials.

As are you. Exactly what kind of credentials would you accept? Never
mind, you'll just describe yourself.

About six years ago I was in your situation. A gentleman told me that
without anything to back up what I was saying, my opinions were useless.
So
I built a website. It isn't the coolest on the web as programming is not
my
idea of fun, but the pitures and articles are proof that I'm not simply a
web weasel with an ax to grind or a paid shill. I would suggest that if
you
want real credibility, take the time to build it. You certainly won't
gain
any respect without showing your hand.

Credibility is a website? You're joking. Anyone can put whatever they
want on a website. By your own criteria, your opinions are worthless
since you have not one shred of evidence beyond your personal
prejudice. Besides the issue isn't a matter of photography but of
vendor-consumer relations, so photographic expertise has nil value.

From reading postings from Tony (the other one), it appears he is located in
either the UK or possibly down under.
..
"Tony" wrote in message
om...
Nope - no dual personality. I have no idea who the other Tony is - it is
not an uncommon first name. My signature is (or should be) unique to me,
however as I doubt anyone else would want to advertise my website..

--
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com
home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
The Improved Links Pages are at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html
A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html


"Burt" wrote in message
m...
I just realized that myself. Either that or we have an example of "dual
personality"!

"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message
news:Iq4he.1336303$Xk.340406@pd7tw3no...
There appears to be two different Tony's here, you and another, and the
other Tony has printer and ink experience. He posts without a visible
email address, so it appears there has been some confusion of some
people's parts here.

Art

Tony wrote:

I don't know who claims I'm in the ink business as he is killfiled. I
would
suspect it is the usual troll with another bit of dis-information. I
have
worked in a couple print shops - but not in the last 30 years.
The person you say helps a lot of people with printer problems is
not
me,
as I know little of any printer other than my own 6 year old Epson.